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CANON 5DS REVIEW BY FERNANDO GUERRA
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Interesting, thanks, Surapon. His negative comments about medium format implied he was totally unaware of the Pentax 645Z; but, I guess that's understandable. A quick check of tilt-shift lenses for 645Z implies Pentax never thought of using the 645Z for architectural work. There is an absolute dearth of workable lenses. Even Schneider doesn't seem to offer a T/S in Pentax 645 mount. (Pentax does have T/S for some of their other mounts.)
So, for now, the 5DS is looking good. Have you decided whether or not to go with the AA filter version?
So, for now, the 5DS is looking good. Have you decided whether or not to go with the AA filter version?
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Thanks Surapon for the post. I hope all he is saying is true. I would be delighted if it was true. But as of now this sounds too much like a commercial:
"After the original 5D, the Mark II was a big step and the Mark III was another huge step." Huge step?? Huge??
"...the JPEGs were really quite good… maybe good enough that you don’t have to open the RAW files." Hahahaha. A professional of that level who will certainly have to adjust blacks and whites in the kind of photos he takes, can afford not to shoot in RAW??
"It’s very fast and we can shoot ISO 3200 with no problem at all; even [up to] 6400.” No problem at ISO 6400 in 5ds? Really??
"I was trying it with my computers and there was no slowing down at all." 50mp will not show his computer down at all? ' At all'?
"After the original 5D, the Mark II was a big step and the Mark III was another huge step." Huge step?? Huge??
"...the JPEGs were really quite good… maybe good enough that you don’t have to open the RAW files." Hahahaha. A professional of that level who will certainly have to adjust blacks and whites in the kind of photos he takes, can afford not to shoot in RAW??
"It’s very fast and we can shoot ISO 3200 with no problem at all; even [up to] 6400.” No problem at ISO 6400 in 5ds? Really??
"I was trying it with my computers and there was no slowing down at all." 50mp will not show his computer down at all? ' At all'?
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+1old-pr-pix said:
I totally agree.
There are a lot of people saying how the 645Z is a great landscape camera that are completely ignoring the lack of wide and TS lenses.
I'm a landscape photographer and I mostly work in the mountains and print large. So the detail that 645Z provides would be great, but I also do most of my work with 17mm TS-E and 24mm TS-E II when shooting closer to the roads. And 14mm 2,8 and 16-35mm f4 when I'm higher in the mountains and need to travel light. I'm sorry to say that Pentax doesn't offer any lenses equivalent to these. And for the me, not being able to go wider than 22mm (35mm equivalent) or not be able to use TS is a deal breaker.
So I'm really looking forward to getting the 5DSr and the new 11-24mm.
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old-pr-pix said:
"His negative comments about medium format implied he was totally unaware of the Pentax 645Z?"
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i don´t think so. it´s just:
the PENTAX 645z is the less attractive MF-system for a architectural photographers; small sensor, no T/S-lenses, no lenses at all (only the discontinued 24mm- which is effectively also long too)
pentax and hasselblads are for portrait and studio photographers!
linhof, arca, sinar, alpa are amazing view-camera-systems
but heavy, slow, and for some.. expensive.
thanx surapon for the post.
sanj: I was wondering (a little disappointed) too as he mentioned the markIII was a HUGE step.....
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Dear Friends.
Thank you so much to reply and comments the article of Mr. Fernando Guerra---Sorry, I can not comment of The big sensor of Medium Format camera, Because I never use one of DSLR---Yes, I use to use Film Camera 120 before , that about 1,000 years ago.
Yes, I already place the order of 5DS = $ 3699 US Dollars + The Battery Grip of 5D MK III = $ 250 US Dollars for this beautiful Monster 50 MP.
But If Canon Make 1DS XX = 50 MP, I will buy her too, Because I love the Handle of 1DS Body in all weather.
Have a great Weekend, Sir.
Surapon
Thank you so much to reply and comments the article of Mr. Fernando Guerra---Sorry, I can not comment of The big sensor of Medium Format camera, Because I never use one of DSLR---Yes, I use to use Film Camera 120 before , that about 1,000 years ago.
Yes, I already place the order of 5DS = $ 3699 US Dollars + The Battery Grip of 5D MK III = $ 250 US Dollars for this beautiful Monster 50 MP.
But If Canon Make 1DS XX = 50 MP, I will buy her too, Because I love the Handle of 1DS Body in all weather.
Have a great Weekend, Sir.
Surapon
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Uh, I beg to differ on the heavy and slow reference to large format unless you're referring to 8X10 and ULF cameras. A 4x5 view camera is light and versatile. Maybe something like the Ebony SW23 or a Chamonix 045n-2. I owned the later. The Chamonix i's built using carbon fiber and wood, weighs less than my 5D MK II.
Fast? For landscape work, shouldn't you be taking your time anyway. Yeah, windy conditions could be a problem with the dark cloth but you can't beat LF for movement versatility. You can get digital backs, scanning backs (yeah, getting very expensive) and adapters for DSLR's, or you can DIY
http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/article_pages/canon-view-camera.html
Just say'n
Fast? For landscape work, shouldn't you be taking your time anyway. Yeah, windy conditions could be a problem with the dark cloth but you can't beat LF for movement versatility. You can get digital backs, scanning backs (yeah, getting very expensive) and adapters for DSLR's, or you can DIY
http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/article_pages/canon-view-camera.html
Just say'n
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sanj said:
Yes, read more like a commercial. Completely agree with the comment about jpegs. As well as:
"I don’t use a tripod a lot."
Well, you will not get the maximum sharpness of that sensor without a tripod when shooting at dusk, in interiors at low ISO.
I'd like more critical evaluation on a "professional" network.
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sanj said:
Isn't that the entire purpose of the explorer of light project? Canon has a big well polished marketing department working hard to worsen your and others' G.A.S.
Though sometimes they seem to step on some brown matter:
http://www.canonwatch.com/little-bit-canon-see-impossible-humor/
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lilmsmaggie said:
hi lilmsmaggie,
yes I´m absolutely on your side;
it´s so wonderful working with a view-camera under the black cloth!
and your Chamonix 045n-2 is an absolute beauty!
but for daily hard work it´s far more productive working with a DSLR,
a geared head and a bubble level, and some TS-e lenses.
the tse17 was the reason why I dropped my sonar f2
(again, I think of satisfying customers)
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I agree that going beyond TS-E lenses, LF is the answer, not MF. I shoot with Arca 4x5" and frequently have movement in two front axes, occasionally even all three. And then there is the option for back movements as well. The creative possibilities and optical adjustment options go WAY beyond SLR/MF.
Re speed, I can get a snapshot with basic set-up mounted in about 3-5 minutes. When starting out of backpack on a flashed macro shot, it takes 30-45 minutes for set-up. Keeper rate is by far higher than with even the most careful SLR shots.
I have the 5dsr with battery grip on order.
Re speed, I can get a snapshot with basic set-up mounted in about 3-5 minutes. When starting out of backpack on a flashed macro shot, it takes 30-45 minutes for set-up. Keeper rate is by far higher than with even the most careful SLR shots.
I have the 5dsr with battery grip on order.
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As a working architectural photographer I find many things in this "article" that cause me to doubt it's usefulness.
- using iso 3200 & 6400
- not using a tripod all the time
- shooting & delivering jpgs to clients
- shooting with a crop ratio applied
These and other images online I've seen from same photographer are not at the level my clients expect.
I mean if canon pays me and gives me a camera I'd say what they want but there's nothing here that relates to professional architectural photography.
- using iso 3200 & 6400
- not using a tripod all the time
- shooting & delivering jpgs to clients
- shooting with a crop ratio applied
These and other images online I've seen from same photographer are not at the level my clients expect.
I mean if canon pays me and gives me a camera I'd say what they want but there's nothing here that relates to professional architectural photography.
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Re: CANON 5DS "REVIEW" BY FERNANDO GUERRA
As another 'working architectural photographer' I also read this with interest... ;-)
I don't have a problem with using higher than base ISO settings and sometimes don't use a tripod - it depends on what you're shooting and what's needed. Not all architectural work is standing around producing giant files, and I've long disliked tripods for my landscapes (never bought into the 'slowness' argument). So, I'd strongly identify with much of what's said...
Not convinced I'd be inclined to send jpegs out of the camera, but the real bit that seemed to come directly from marketing was the stuff about crop modes - which seem to be predicated on using DPP (OK you do need it for pre-production cameras)
I use the TS-E17 and 24 a lot, but if I want something longer I can use a 1.4x TC with not a lot of loss of quality, or even one of my M645 lenses with a shift adapter.
So, it's interesting to see how the marketing department has spun this one. Looking forward to trying it myself -)
BTW Thanks for the mention of my home-brew Canon/5x4 adapter, but it really was just an experiment to play with movements. The mirror box gets in the way too easily, and I can't use it with short enough focal length lenses for my liking.
Still, enough to remind me that LF and film have no real part in my actual business ;-)
As another 'working architectural photographer' I also read this with interest... ;-)
I don't have a problem with using higher than base ISO settings and sometimes don't use a tripod - it depends on what you're shooting and what's needed. Not all architectural work is standing around producing giant files, and I've long disliked tripods for my landscapes (never bought into the 'slowness' argument). So, I'd strongly identify with much of what's said...
Not convinced I'd be inclined to send jpegs out of the camera, but the real bit that seemed to come directly from marketing was the stuff about crop modes - which seem to be predicated on using DPP (OK you do need it for pre-production cameras)
I use the TS-E17 and 24 a lot, but if I want something longer I can use a 1.4x TC with not a lot of loss of quality, or even one of my M645 lenses with a shift adapter.
So, it's interesting to see how the marketing department has spun this one. Looking forward to trying it myself -)
BTW Thanks for the mention of my home-brew Canon/5x4 adapter, but it really was just an experiment to play with movements. The mirror box gets in the way too easily, and I can't use it with short enough focal length lenses for my liking.
Still, enough to remind me that LF and film have no real part in my actual business ;-)
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keithcooper
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Depends on what's being sold ;-)dilbert said:
I've given interviews in the past and seen some of my words morph to bring them more 'on message'. Not always an issue, but definitely something I watch for if my name is going to be mentioned.
In this case, it's only really the crop use that doesn't ring true for me.
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" I was looking at those books for details, of course, but also I had all the detail I wanted in the shadows, so I was getting things [in the pictures] that I don’t get with the Mark III. That, for me, was huge because you can have a lot more leeway."
Better DR than 5DIII ?
Better DR than 5DIII ?
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Hey Keith, that looked like a fun experiment! The "use a MF lens with TS adapter" would seem more applicable, and might be interesting for those who have MF lenses gathering dust in their storage, but if you don't have MF lenses or need really wide TS, why bother with adapters when Canon has made good equipment already?
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