11-24 is here, with images of it compared to Nikon 14-24

Mr_Canuck said:
privatebydesign said:
As you know I just got the 16-35 f4, but after actually seeing this 11-24 I think I am going to have to get one, of course I'll await the reviews, and the 16-35 is an outstandingly good lens, but 11mm just opens up a range of perspectives the 16 nor 17TS-E can get to, throw in the usual weatherproofing and AF of the L's and even if you have to stop it down for maximum sharpness it still looks like a killer lens.

Think of the dynamic stuff 11mm will get you with the L series AF, it will become the new must have lens for skateboard shooting, snowboarding, anything that grinds rails, goalmouth, etc. Heck I'd like to put one on the EOS M and stick it as a remote above the wedding couple! So many possibilities of shots never captured before.

I think my Profoto B1 money is going on the 11-24!

Or just a GoPro for $300?
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Ever shot a GoPro in the light you get at an average wedding? Go do it, then try and make a decent print out of the garbage you have.
 
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mackguyver said:
Sabaki said:
drjlo said:
If I sell my 24 T-SE II and MPE-65... :'(

No man! don't do it :-[
I'm thinking about selling some of my under-used gear to fund this one. My 24L II has seen little action since I stopped shooting events and bought the 24-70 f/2.8 II, so I think it can go. I'm actually considering selling my 16-35 f/4 IS as well. It's a spectacular lens, but I don't know if I'll use it a whole lot with the 11-24 f/4 and 24-70 f/2.8 II combination. The TS-E 17 f/4 is another candidate because I have the TS-E 24 f/3.5 II as well, but T/S lenses are so unique, it's hard to think of giving up that lens. First world problems, right?

You guys have some spectacular kit for sure.

I have abour $3000 free a year to buy the things I want, so it is taking me a while to get everything I want :)

This year will be a toss up between a 5Div or a 11-24 for me. I can only do one

Feel free to courier that 17mm TS-E to me. I'll hold onto her until you decide what to so with it ;D
 
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Sabaki said:
You guys have some spectacular kit for sure.

I have abour $3000 free a year to buy the things I want, so it is taking me a while to get everything I want :)

This year will be a toss up between a 5Div or a 11-24 for me. I can only do one

Feel free to courier that 17mm TS-E to me. I'll hold onto her until you decide what to so with it ;D
Sure, I'll get it out to you right away. Just keep checking the mail ;). Actually I'm pretty sure I'll keep it, but the 24L II and 16-35 f/4 IS are probably going on the auction block. The T/S lenses are too unique and special in terms of what they can do to substitute them with anything else. I'm definitely anxious to get the 11-24 to see what it can do and I pre-ordered within the first 10 minutes of B&H putting it up, so hopefully I'll get one of the first batch. I'll sure everything with you guys as soon as it arrives. I'm making a list of all the locations I want to shoot/re-shoot and thinking of other possibilities as well like video. I have two or three commercial shoots lined up in early March as well that might benefit. Now I just need to line up some real estate work to get my money back on this lens :)
 
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mackguyver said:
PBD, et al - I found another possible ND solution (from Nikon guys) - LEE makes polyester filters and you can get a set of 0.3, 0.6 and 0.9 in 4"x4" holders for $56 from B&H.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/102426-REG/LEE_Filters_NDSET_Neutral_Density_Polyester_Filter.html

I wish they had ND 2.0+, but assuming these are good, you might be able to stack them for ND 1.8 (6 stops, same as Little Stopper).

Hi Mackguyver,

I use these with the LEE Foundation kit. Do you think the foundation kit will work on the 11-24?
 
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Rahul said:
mackguyver said:
PBD, et al - I found another possible ND solution (from Nikon guys) - LEE makes polyester filters and you can get a set of 0.3, 0.6 and 0.9 in 4"x4" holders for $56 from B&H.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/102426-REG/LEE_Filters_NDSET_Neutral_Density_Polyester_Filter.html

I wish they had ND 2.0+, but assuming these are good, you might be able to stack them for ND 1.8 (6 stops, same as Little Stopper).

Hi Mackguyver,

I use these with the LEE Foundation kit. Do you think the foundation kit will work on the 11-24?
Hi Rahul,

They won't work with the 11-24 unless you take them out the holders and cut the polyester to fit the rear filter slot on the back of the lens, which is what I'm planning to do with them, if I buy them.
 
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Really thinking this would be a great lens to have, especially for the reflective beach shots I like to do in SoCal, though I don't really like the idea of the salt spray directly on the front element.

Some of small canyons in the Bitterroot Valley might work out nicely as well. 11mm in a non fisheye is pretty crazy, even at that 'lowly' f/4, lol. Actually I'm not knocking the aperture, especially if it is a straight as the demo shots look.
 
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mackguyver said:
Rahul said:
mackguyver said:
PBD, et al - I found another possible ND solution (from Nikon guys) - LEE makes polyester filters and you can get a set of 0.3, 0.6 and 0.9 in 4"x4" holders for $56 from B&H.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/102426-REG/LEE_Filters_NDSET_Neutral_Density_Polyester_Filter.html

I wish they had ND 2.0+, but assuming these are good, you might be able to stack them for ND 1.8 (6 stops, same as Little Stopper).

Hi Mackguyver,

I use these with the LEE Foundation kit. Do you think the foundation kit will work on the 11-24?
Hi Rahul,

They won't work with the 11-24 unless you take them out the holders and cut the polyester to fit the rear filter slot on the back of the lens, which is what I'm planning to do with them, if I buy them.

Thanks - I misunderstood.

I wouldn't consider stacking them more than once or twice probably. These are in essence, disposable filters - cheap and good but not durable at all. It doesn't take any effort to scratch them so if you have two of these against each other ... Good Luck!

That being said, if you do wish to use the LEE gels in the gelatin filter holder, I'd recommend this over the filter set you mentioned above -

http://www.filmtools.com/31-lee-s211.html

0.9 ND 21"x24" sheet for $ 7.50, probably more worth the money spent. ;)
 
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ERHP said:
Really thinking this would be a great lens to have, especially for the reflective beach shots I like to do in SoCal, though I don't really like the idea of the salt spray directly on the front element.

Some of small canyons in the Bitterroot Valley might work out nicely as well. 11mm in a non fisheye is pretty crazy, even at that 'lowly' f/4, lol. Actually I'm not knocking the aperture, especially if it is a straight as the demo shots look.
ERHP, I got nailed during a shoot in December (see below, moments before it got me), so I understand the concern. Hopefully the fluorine coating will make it easy to clean! Also, I see you were in my stomping grounds (St Marks NWR) recently. Are you from the Tallahassee area?

Rahul said:
That being said, if you do wish to use the LEE gels in the gelatin filter holder, I'd recommend this over the filter set you mentioned above -

http://www.filmtools.com/31-lee-s211.html

0.9 ND 21"x24" sheet for $ 7.50, probably more worth the money spent. ;)
Rahul, I was trying to find that the other day - I thought for sure they sold it this way, so thanks for the link!
 

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mackguyver said:
ERHP said:
Really thinking this would be a great lens to have, especially for the reflective beach shots I like to do in SoCal, though I don't really like the idea of the salt spray directly on the front element.

Some of small canyons in the Bitterroot Valley might work out nicely as well. 11mm in a non fisheye is pretty crazy, even at that 'lowly' f/4, lol. Actually I'm not knocking the aperture, especially if it is a straight as the demo shots look.
ERHP, I got nailed during a shoot in December (see below, moments before it got me), so I understand the concern. Hopefully the fluorine coating will make it easy to clean! Also, I see you were in my stomping grounds (St Marks NWR) recently. Are you from the Tallahassee area?

Grew up about an hour east of Talla actually and try to make it back to see the folks at least once a year. Convinced the parents to go on the St Mark's trip with me and now they keep talking about going back.
 
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Rahul said:
That being said, if you do wish to use the LEE gels in the gelatin filter holder, I'd recommend this over the filter set you mentioned above -

http://www.filmtools.com/31-lee-s211.html

0.9 ND 21"x24" sheet for $ 7.50, probably more worth the money spent. ;)

these type of gels are for lights only and not for lenses. they're not optically pure by any standard, and will degrade image quality. better to stick with kodak wratten filters or lee polyester filters, especially on a $3000 lens.
 
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longtallkarl said:
Rahul said:
That being said, if you do wish to use the LEE gels in the gelatin filter holder, I'd recommend this over the filter set you mentioned above -

http://www.filmtools.com/31-lee-s211.html

0.9 ND 21"x24" sheet for $ 7.50, probably more worth the money spent. ;)

these type of gels are for lights only and not for lenses. they're not optically pure by any standard, and will degrade image quality. better to stick with kodak wratten filters or lee polyester filters, especially on a $3000 lens.
That's where I've been leaning, especially since finding this gallery of a guy who uses the ND 3 Wratten on his 14L.
 
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Hmm those shots are pretty terrible, if that is representative I'll go for a 17mm TS/E instead, that's not worth $3k. Looking at the shutter speed, they shouldn't all be motion blurred either. Some better examples please!
 
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msm said:
Hmm those shots are pretty terrible, if that is representative I'll go for a 17mm TS/E instead, that's not worth $3k. Looking at the shutter speed, they shouldn't all be motion blurred either. Some better examples please!
The lighting is terrible, the body is not calibrated (AFMA) with the lens, we don't know the camera settings, and it's a downsized JPEG, and we don't know how steady the shooter's hands are. And it's likely a pre-production lens.

I would put very little stock in these given the Canon samples and the MTF curves that look very close the 16-35 f/4 IS which is by all accounts an excellent lens. I'm really surprised Canon allowed people to take photos with it mounted.
 
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Hi,
May be next time they should design a ultra wide angle lens with a drop in filter (like those use in the Super-Telephoto lens). Hmm... Or may be someone could design a EF adapter with a drop-in filter for mirrorless camera... Sony mirrorless landscape photographer who want to use this lens will be very happy.

Have a nice day.
 
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