1DX MkII samples page

PhotographyFirst said:
First is that you don't need to push more than 3 stops to see a large difference in shadows noise at ISO 100. There are a couple of people on this forum who mocked improved DR because they assumed it only made a difference when pushed 5+ stops and have been on a snarky campaign to discredit those who want more DR. :)

Yup, it'll be interesting to see those current 1DX owners who claim the mk2 isn't a big enough improvement "quietly" upgrade once they see real-world results and realise they were initially talking out their ass. Andy Rouse reckons the beta body he tested is a very worthwhile improvement. Would anyone here expect the production body to be a step back from the beta? Cue the naysayers..... ::)

http://www.andyrouse.co.uk/index.php?b=1&currentpage=1
 
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PhotographyFirst said:
First is that you don't need to push more than 3 stops to see a large difference in shadows noise at ISO 100. There are a couple of people on this forum who mocked improved DR because they assumed it only made a difference when pushed 5+ stops and have been on a snarky campaign to discredit those who want more DR. :)

Thirdly, and most importantly. For those who always break out the market share data to defend Canon and help prove a point that Canon knows their market far better than any "armchair internet chump". Why would the all-knowing Canon make improvements to low ISO DR? Either Canon are now idiots for putting money into something that doesn't matter [sic] or the smart Canon is very aware that a significant enough portion of the market wants/demands such a feature. Ha! :)

That's an interesting point of view.

My observation on this issue at CR is that most posters don't dispute that more DR will be a benefit. In fact the person you are referring to (re. market share) has also said on a number of occasions that if he was into landscapes he would go in for a D800/D810 given the better DR and MP that it has.

The stench comes from the ad-nauseum complaining by some posters that lack of DR is holding them back but have no pictures to show exactly how.

BTW, everyone's shooting needs are different, a lot of people shoot at high ISOs where the difference in DR is negligible. If the 1DX2 gives more DR at high ISO, that will be of considerably more importance than improvements in low ISO DR.

For me the 1DX2 will mean less bracketing and less work in PP for my landscape work. The more time you are away from the computer, the more time you have to shoot.
 
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Rahul said:
PhotographyFirst said:
First is that you don't need to push more than 3 stops to see a large difference in shadows noise at ISO 100. There are a couple of people on this forum who mocked improved DR because they assumed it only made a difference when pushed 5+ stops and have been on a snarky campaign to discredit those who want more DR. :)

Thirdly, and most importantly. For those who always break out the market share data to defend Canon and help prove a point that Canon knows their market far better than any "armchair internet chump". Why would the all-knowing Canon make improvements to low ISO DR? Either Canon are now idiots for putting money into something that doesn't matter [sic] or the smart Canon is very aware that a significant enough portion of the market wants/demands such a feature. Ha! :)

That's an interesting point of view.

My observation on this issue at CR is that most posters don't dispute that more DR will be a benefit. In fact the person you are referring to (re. market share) has also said on a number of occasions that if he was into landscapes he would go in for a D800/D810 given the better DR and MP that it has.

The stench comes from the ad-nauseum complaining by some posters that lack of DR is holding them back but have no pictures to show exactly how.

BTW, everyone's shooting needs are different, a lot of people shoot at high ISOs where the difference in DR is negligible. If the 1DX2 gives more DR at high ISO, that will be of considerably more importance than improvements in low ISO DR.

For me the 1DX2 will mean less bracketing and less work in PP for my landscape work. The more time you are away from the computer, the more time you have to shoot.

agree. Less bracketing is a good thing. Saves card, disk space and my time.
 
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Hello, guys.
Just saw, that the guys from the Getty Images have already received 1DX MkII and used it to F1 test in Spain. Unfortunately, only five samples of photos are full sized, others - cut, but progress in comparison with the 1DX evident:

1DX MkII




1DX:


Sorry for pics, can't find spoiler code.
 
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GuyF said:
PhotographyFirst said:
First is that you don't need to push more than 3 stops to see a large difference in shadows noise at ISO 100. There are a couple of people on this forum who mocked improved DR because they assumed it only made a difference when pushed 5+ stops and have been on a snarky campaign to discredit those who want more DR. :)

Yup, it'll be interesting to see those current 1DX owners who claim the mk2 isn't a big enough improvement "quietly" upgrade once they see real-world results and realise they were initially talking out their ass. Andy Rouse reckons the beta body he tested is a very worthwhile improvement. Would anyone here expect the production body to be a step back from the beta? Cue the naysayers..... ::)

http://www.andyrouse.co.uk/index.php?b=1&currentpage=1

I'm pretty sure the only one talking out their ass was you. You probably think the second a new body comes out the "old" version are complete trash. Love it when fanboys get all doe-eyed for the greatest and latest.
 
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Pookie said:
I'm pretty sure the only one talking out their ass was you. You probably think the second a new body comes out the "old" version are complete trash. Love it when fanboys get all doe-eyed for the greatest and latest.

Ummm, if that's how you want to perceive my post, on you go. Only an idiot would suggest a new body renders the previous model obsolete. My point was that a number of people here have said they won't upgrade based on the spec however I suggested that once realworld results come out, they may well change their mind and decide the 1DX2 is worth getting after all. Your mileage may vary etc.

I do wonder why people get upset if someone they'll never meet decides to replace their camera with the newest version. Please remember it's just a hobby for many of us and if we want to get the latest stuff, we will. You're in no position to tell any of us how to spend our money.

Anyway, I trust you've written to Canon to demand they only release new cameras when they meet your own expectations. ::)

Toodle-pip.
 
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GuyF said:
PhotographyFirst said:
First is that you don't need to push more than 3 stops to see a large difference in shadows noise at ISO 100. There are a couple of people on this forum who mocked improved DR because they assumed it only made a difference when pushed 5+ stops and have been on a snarky campaign to discredit those who want more DR. :)

Yup, it'll be interesting to see those current 1DX owners who claim the mk2 isn't a big enough improvement "quietly" upgrade once they see real-world results and realise they were initially talking out their ass. Andy Rouse reckons the beta body he tested is a very worthwhile improvement. Would anyone here expect the production body to be a step back from the beta? Cue the naysayers..... ::)

http://www.andyrouse.co.uk/index.php?b=1&currentpage=1

But that's exactly what YOU did. You singled out current 1Dx owners who claim the 1Dx Mark II isn't a big enough improvement. You then continued to idiotically say that some will "quietly" upgrade and realize they were talking out their asses.

The funniest thing is that you are not a professional who makes any appreciable income from photography. So the poster above is correct. YOU are the only one talking out their ass. Very few will upgrade, who make money, because by doing so, isn't likely going to generate any more income. I did say I wasn't going to upgrade and I'm not. I always skip a generation. I'm not really sure why you care whether or not I say that, then quietly upgrade, or whatever. Just because I don't upgrade doesn't mean I don't think it's a great camera. I guess you have nothing better to worry about.
 
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Bdunbar79 - okay, I could've worded my original post better but we're all adults here and I'm sure we'll get over it. (There are plenty people here who say worse things and come out of it unscathed.)

You've said that you skip every other generation and so you're happy not to upgrade. No problem. I just wonder about others who have suggested purely based on the spec of the 1DX2 that there doesn't appear to be a large enough boost in performance to warrant an upgrade. A spec sheet only tells you so much. Yes, you might be able to intimate how resulting images may look but it's only by playing around with real world RAW files that you may be impressed enough to make you change your mind.
 
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I think most pro photographers will up grade, they will have had their money from the 1DX and will not want to be stood alongside others shooting the MkII feeling they are at a disadvantage, after all any advance in AF will be most welcome, you could say yeah yeah but the Mk1 is ok, but there should be little doubt the Mk2 will be better, we can put trust in Canon to move the game on surly, it will be a long wait for a Mk3 that's for sure and in that time those who have the Mk2 will have covered the cost and who knows maybe even got shots they would have missed with the Mk1 thanks for that super fast shutter of the Mk2. Question is as a pro do you want to take a chance but not upgrading, you could be one at a disadvantage though aging tech? On the other hand awards will be won with a much lesser camera... Life is short, so I will probably add a 1DX2 to my 5D3, strip the grip from the 5D and have a smaller DSLR to sit along side the 1DX, then probably end up with a 5DX (or whatever it will be called in the end) haha, tech... it stands still for no one, Mr Moore knew that... :D
 
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GuyF said:
Pookie said:
I'm pretty sure the only one talking out their ass was you. You probably think the second a new body comes out the "old" version are complete trash. Love it when fanboys get all doe-eyed for the greatest and latest.

Ummm, if that's how you want to perceive my post, on you go. Only an idiot would suggest a new body renders the previous model obsolete. My point was that a number of people here have said they won't upgrade based on the spec however I suggested that once realworld results come out, they may well change their mind and decide the 1DX2 is worth getting after all. Your mileage may vary etc.

I do wonder why people get upset if someone they'll never meet decides to replace their camera with the newest version. Please remember it's just a hobby for many of us and if we want to get the latest stuff, we will. You're in no position to tell any of us how to spend our money.

Anyway, I trust you've written to Canon to demand they only release new cameras when they meet your own expectations. ::)

Toodle-pip.

Have to agree with you Guy, I've seen it happen plenty of times and have even been guilty myself of saying I won't be getting newer model, only to gte one 1-2 years later then kicked myself for not doing it sooner. There has never been a 1 series update that hasn't been worth the upgrade IMO.
 
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Pookie said:
GuyF said:
PhotographyFirst said:
First is that you don't need to push more than 3 stops to see a large difference in shadows noise at ISO 100. There are a couple of people on this forum who mocked improved DR because they assumed it only made a difference when pushed 5+ stops and have been on a snarky campaign to discredit those who want more DR. :)

Yup, it'll be interesting to see those current 1DX owners who claim the mk2 isn't a big enough improvement "quietly" upgrade once they see real-world results and realise they were initially talking out their ass. Andy Rouse reckons the beta body he tested is a very worthwhile improvement. Would anyone here expect the production body to be a step back from the beta? Cue the naysayers..... ::)

http://www.andyrouse.co.uk/index.php?b=1&currentpage=1

I'm pretty sure the only one talking out their ass was you. You probably think the second a new body comes out the "old" version are complete trash. Love it when fanboys get all doe-eyed for the greatest and latest.

LOL! By the way, I'm still 100% happy with my completely obsolete 5D Mark III and that old rust bucket 135L. I'll continue to be happy for years to come. Good to see you Pookie! 8) Someday I'm gonna come by and let you show me how to take a photo! Take care brother.
 
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JohnMcDi said:
Hello, guys.
Just saw, that the guys from the Getty Images have already received 1DX MkII and used it to F1 test in Spain. Unfortunately, only five samples of photos are full sized, others - cut, but progress in comparison with the 1DX evident:

1DX MkII




1DX:


Sorry for pics, can't find spoiler code.

Thanks for posting the images. The quality looks pretty sharp. Quite a bit of dust on that sensor already!!
 
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tpatana said:
mezzoutopia said:
Another impressive review from a Japanese photographer.

http://snapshot.canon-asia.com/article/en/eos-1d-x-mark-ii-live-action-review-part-1-stunning-focus-accuracy-and-af-tracking-performance

Sounded bit too much scripted ad instead of real review.

I agree. In the images tracking the bird moving from left to right. Hardly a challenging image to showcase the AF of the camera. Now if the bird were flying directly towards the camera at top speed, it would be a slightly better test with the 1DX2 locking focus accurately for each photo.
 
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GuyF said:
A bit more from the same snapshot site. Seems impressive but you do wish the site gave larger images to examine.

http://snapshot.canon-asia.com/article/en/eos-1d-x-mark-ii-live-action-review-part-2-dual-pixel-cmos-af-perfect-focus-even-in-dark-scenes

Personally, it is more of a challenge in such photos to keep the bird in the frame at 1000 mm than the AF. with the bird so large in the frame so far separated from the background, it being in focus doesn't seem to be something to brag about, that too with the low resolution images.

I would love to see burst images of something like a warbler or a chickadee.
 
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