21mp Sensor in the 7D Mark II? [CR1]

[Canon Rumors]

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<strong>21mp APS-C Sensor?


</strong>I received a very detailed email today about the future of the APS-C line at Canon. According to this person, Canon is prepping a 21mp (we’ve also heard 24mp) sensor for the 7D Mark II, and that sensor <em>COULD </em>also appear in the EOS 70D. The email detailed that Canon was going to launch the 70D with the same 18mp sensor as the EOS SL1, but is having second thoughts. Various prototypes and configurations of cameras tend to exist during R&D.</p>
<p>The issue is mass production of the 21mp sensor has not been finalized. This is delaying any announcement for a new APS camera that would use the 21mp sensor. Canon would prefer to announce a camera and have availability within 30 days of that announcement.</p>
<p>Both the EOS 70D and EOS 7D Mark II exist, there’s no surprises coming in that regard.</p>
<p>More to come…</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">c</span>r</strong></p>

 

[pwp]

A 21 Mp 7DII sounds fine to me. But it's the rest of the hardware package that holds the greatest interest, along with a release date!

-PW

 

[GaryJ]

If only Canon would announce they had a 21mp sensor with the same or better low light high ISO low noise capabilities as that other mob, That would be worth hearing.

 

[RGF]

Agree that 21 MP is nice but what goes with it? AF and S/N is critical.

Perhaps Canon marketing is listening to our cries of fowl about recycling the old 18MP.

Of course there is always is a trade off between new and innovative vs time to market (and price)

 

[JPAZ]

My 15.1mp Canon 50d was awfully noisy. This sensor would have to do better.

 

[Loswr]

18 MP. 21 MP. 24 MP. Even 15 MP. Frankly, I don't especially care. If it does a full stop or more better in terms of high ISO noise performance for RAW images vs. the 7D, a 7DII will be interesting to me. If not, no interest.

 

[chauncey]

I'm probably gonna pick one up to go with my 1Ds3...provided noise, et al. is up to par.

 

[wrlphoto]

They need to hurry up! I can only wait so long as my 40D's resolution isnt cutting it for me anymore and that d7100 from nikon looks amazing.

 

[hmmm]

They need to hurry up! I can only wait so long as my 40D's resolution isnt cutting it for me anymore and that d7100 from nikon looks amazing.

If the 70D does have 21MP we will have the d7100 to thank.

 

[barracuda]

18 MP. 21 MP. 24 MP. Even 15 MP. Frankly, I don't especially care. If it does a full stop or more better in terms of high ISO noise performance for RAW images vs. the 7D, a 7DII will be interesting to me. If not, no interest.

+1

Exactly.

 

[Don Haines]

So lets see if I understand this... The 7D2 MIGHT be 21 megapixels, or it MIGHT be 24, or it could possibly be 18. And the 70D MIGHT have one of those sensors.... or it could be something else.....

I'll sleep better tonight knowing that....

 

[Don Haines]

So lets see if I understand this... The 7D2 MIGHT be 21 megapixels, or it MIGHT be 24, or it could possibly be 18. And the 70D MIGHT have one of those sensors.... or it could be something else.....

Yeah, I know... sounds like a company that knows what it is doing, doesn't it?

I'm sure that Canon knows exactly what they are doing.... they just aren't telling...

 

[unfocused]

If only Canon would announce they had a 21mp sensor with the same or better low light high ISO low noise capabilities as that other mob, That would be worth hearing.

I'd sure like to know what "other mob" you are referring to. I think I've looked at virtually every reputable test site I could find and have yet to see any evidence that the new generation sensors being used by Nikon offer any noticeable improvement in high ISO low noise performance.

I too am hoping that Canon's next generation of APS-C sensors has better high ISO performance, but it's not like the current 18mp sensor is significantly worse than the current Nikon offerings.

 

[Krob78]

So lets see if I understand this... The 7D2 MIGHT be 21 megapixels, or it MIGHT be 24, or it could possibly be 18. And the 70D MIGHT have one of those sensors.... or it could be something else.....

Yeah, I know... sounds like a company that knows what it is doing, doesn't it?

I'm sure that Canon knows exactly what they are doing.... they just aren't telling...

My gut says it won't be 18mp. But what does my gut know?

 

[Krob78]

18 MP. 21 MP. 24 MP. Even 15 MP. Frankly, I don't especially care. If it does a full stop or more better in terms of high ISO noise performance for RAW images vs. the 7D, a 7DII will be interesting to me. If not, no interest.

+1

Exactly.

+10 Absolutely! I hope it is so!

 

[pierceography]

18 MP. 21 MP. 24 MP. Even 15 MP. Frankly, I don't especially care. If it does a full stop or more better in terms of high ISO noise performance for RAW images vs. the 7D, a 7DII will be interesting to me. If not, no interest.

+1

Better high ISO performance is a must. Usable ISO at and above 3200 is key... I have the ISO max on my 7D set at 1600. Anything higher I have to render in B&W to be usable.

Things I don't care about: Megapixels, GPS, Wifi, Touchscreen, FPS, AF (current 7D AF and FPS are fine).

Things I do care about: ISO, price.

Otherwise, my current 7D will remain as my backup camera.

 

[Krob78]

18 MP. 21 MP. 24 MP. Even 15 MP. Frankly, I don't especially care. If it does a full stop or more better in terms of high ISO noise performance for RAW images vs. the 7D, a 7DII will be interesting to me. If not, no interest.

+1

Better high ISO performance is a must. Usable ISO at and above 3200 is key... I have the ISO max on my 7D set at 1600. Anything higher I have to render in B&W to be usable.

Things I don't care about: Megapixels, GPS, Wifi, Touchscreen, FPS, AF (current 7D AF and FPS are fine).

Things I do care about: ISO, price.

Otherwise, my current 7D will remain as my backup camera.

I feel very much the same about my 7D. As I've said many times in different topics, it's still a relevant camera and tool in my bag...

 

[RGF]

So lets see if I understand this... The 7D2 MIGHT be 21 megapixels, or it MIGHT be 24, or it could possibly be 18. And the 70D MIGHT have one of those sensors.... or it could be something else.....

Yeah, I know... sounds like a company that knows what it is doing, doesn't it?

I'm sure that Canon knows exactly what they are doing.... they just aren't telling...

+1 Basically field testing different combinations of attributes and trying to decide which combination in the current environment of other Canon, NIkon and to a less degree Sony, ... bodies (current and near future) will have the greatest incrementality to the brand. Plus factor in manufacturing and supply challenges, and you will begin to understand their decision process.

Too advanced and manufacturing challenges reduce capacity and may cut into pro level cameras. Not enough improvements, current customers may switch to Nikon or trade down a level.

Anyone else from Marketing / General Management here?

 

[sfunglee]

18 MP. 21 MP. 24 MP. Even 15 MP. Frankly, I don't especially care. If it does a full stop or more better in terms of high ISO noise performance for RAW images vs. the 7D, a 7DII will be interesting to me. If not, no interest.

+1

I owned 2 units of 7D, sold the old &for a new 7D for extra zoom & overall built =) , but I can't bear to wait the new 7DII for several reason... If no ISO improvement really feel upset...

 

[LetTheRightLensIn]

I wonder if it will be a new process with modern levels of low ISO DR or not.
If not, then I'd be fearing for even the 5D4 to get such a sensor.