5dmkIII- No video autofocus?

[Astro]

well if you guys need AF in a video camera.. im not against implementing it.

but from my experience it´s no feature a pro would dearly miss.

 

[tasteofjace]

For those wanting to film home videos you should just buy a cheap video camera. You can get them for $250.00

OR - Get a wide angle lens where the DOF is pretty much infinite.

Professional video cameras do not have AF. It's childs play. The person running the camera not only should know exactly what they want in focus, but they better have the skills to manually hit their mark.

 

[Leadfingers]

I do a lot of pro video and definitely want autofocus. Why would you not want it, the technology is there, and depending on what you are shooting - and how - it can make things a lot easier.

If you want to stick with manual, you can but at least give both options.

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People don't want it because it makes them seem old-school with lots of street cred. Friggen luddites.

I have 20/15 vision and have trouble finding exact focus with the LCD on a T3i. Autofocus SHOULD be there. If only because $500 Nikons already have it.

Feh.

 

[Astro]

This is a lack of course.
All professional video cameras have auto focus capability as standard feature. It is not by luck there, they know that it is importand in scenes sometimes for videographers.

aha.. like the red one you mean? :

please... get a clue what you are talking about.

i've never used full auto-focus, it always searches for focus (which looks awful) and personally I think it's just bad craftsmanship.

 

[Orion]

. . . .
MAybe autofocus feature can be added in firmware?...I don't know...

I am sick and tired of the "firmware escape clause!"

If it's firmware, then add it before you release the damn thing.

Video Autofocus . . . add it!

60fps @1080P . . . ADD IT!

uncompressed HDMI out . . . .add it

uses old metering system from 7D???

in the end, when you factor in the grip and taxes, it will be around $4500 . . . really!

 

[thepancakeman]

Professional video cameras do not have AF. It's childs play. The person running the camera not only should know exactly what they want in focus, but they better have the skills to manually hit their mark.

Exactly--that's why they have focus pullers is because the cameramen don't actually know how to "hit their mark." And everyone else in every video always hits their mark as indicated by the out-of-frame "X" on the floor indicating exactly where to stand. /sarcasm

 

[Neeneko]

*smirk* now I am thinking back to the arguments around putting autofocus on still bodies years ago, and how a 'professional' would not want that....

 

[bellarmine]

I'm so sick of this meaningless platitude: "well anyone who's SERIOUS about (videography/photography) doesn't do this, or use this." Why are there so many photographers and videographers who are actually posting this crap?

I think its because you're all scared. Technology is rapidly undermining your skillsets and democratizing your craft. Now you are threatened and feel like the only solution is to rabidly proclaim what seperates you from anyone with a camera and bash and flame anyone who isn't part of your erudite club. It used to be easy stuff that barred the "soccer moms", as you so condescendingly and chauvinistically put it, from doing what you do. Things like prohibitively priced tools and archaic skillsets (i.e. focus pullers, dark rooms) but one by one those things have fallen into our hands.

Judging from the tone of 90% of photography/videography forums and sites, that fact makes you angry and scared. I mean listen to yourselves! Constantly calling eachother out "well the fact you said this means you dont know anything", "Well you obviously have never USED X,Y, or Z, get a clue what you're talking about" You are like bickering highschoolers, where's the sense of community? where's the warm welcome?

I come from an art background, growing up drawing and painting with my contemporaries largely at deviant art and what a difference! I'm used to helpful criticisms, encouragement, and RESPECTFUL dialog respecting tools and techniques. A warm and welcome tone. I guess I was expecting too much when i approached photography and videography wanting to learn more about these two wonderful new-to-me mediums.

What I've found is an old establishment desperately trying to cement some kind of formalized set of rules; a RIGHT way and a WRONG way things are done. You guys need some serious shaking up. I'm not worried I'm sure my generation is gonna break all your stupid rules and make art the way it should be made, free of groupthink and limitations. Just look at iphonography, the lo-fi movement, and citizen journalism, its already happening suckers.

Anyway you guys are a very abrasive bunch, enjoy your jobs while they last.

 

[spidyhero]

Video Autofocus . . . add it!

60fps @1080P . . . ADD IT!

uncompressed HDMI out . . . .add it

uses old metering system from 7D???

in the end, when you factor in the grip and taxes, it will be around $4500 . . . really!

As of today the best we can expect in the DSLR video autofocus field is contrast autofocus, unreliable at all !!!

so it isn't a firmware feature to be unlocked, it is a technology development to be made.

different is clean HDMI, that could and should have been done (see Nikon D800).

if they had added 1080p60 this 5D3 should have been a viral camera, as much as I can guess.

 

[spidyhero]

Video Autofocus . . . add it!

60fps @1080P . . . ADD IT!

uncompressed HDMI out . . . .add it

uses old metering system from 7D???

in the end, when you factor in the grip and taxes, it will be around $4500 . . . really!

As of today the best we can expect in the DSLR video autofocus field is contrast autofocus, unreliable at all !!!

so it isn't a firmware feature to be unlocked, it is a technology development to be made.

different is clean HDMI, that could and should have been done (see Nikon D800).

if they had added 1080p60 this 5D3 should have been a viral camera, as much as I can guess.

 

[Orion]

Video Autofocus . . . add it!

60fps @1080P . . . ADD IT!

uncompressed HDMI out . . . .add it

uses old metering system from 7D???

in the end, when you factor in the grip and taxes, it will be around $4500 . . . really!

As of today the best we can expect in the DSLR video autofocus field is contrast autofocus, unreliable at all !!!

so it isn't a firmware feature to be unlocked, it is a technology development to be made.

different is clean HDMI, that could and should have been done (see Nikon D800).

if they had added 1080p60 this 5D3 should have been a viral camera, as much as I can guess.

yeah, I know . . . just trying to make a point about borrowing from older generations and the fact that competitors offer something you don't. . . . just add it already. Like I said . . with grip, the thing will cost 4500+ with taxes too!!!! a 1DmkIV costs around 5thou. . . .

 

[NormanBates]

it's not that I hate AF in video

it's just that I'm not going to use it, so I'd rather have them concentrate their efforts in something else

wait a minute, where have I read this argument before...???
http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php/topic,3301.0.html

 

[thure1982]

I only use still photo since my 40D doesn't take video.
I have made motion-pictures in the past thow.
But the deal is I have NEVER used just manual focus because my eyes are as good as an old ladys.
I was born this way. I can't see propperly without glasses. I also have problems with hitting the spot on focus because of this.
Thats why i use autofocus in still and video.
I may from time to time set a fix focus with manual after I checked that it's in focus with auto.

I have been waiting for years for the new 5D so I can upgrade to fullframe and not have to buy a seperate "videocamera".
I'm not going to buy another "videocamera with soccermom-focus" if I have such a capable machine in the future as the 5D3 seems to be.

I will never call my self a pro but over the years of taking photos I have gotten damn good at it.
Does this mean that I can't have the digital help I need to get my subject in focus when I shoot video in my future 5D3?
Sure I know how to manually focus but I don't know if its in the right place at all.

The only reason I stick to Canon is because I have the L-lenses already.

I'm gonna have a baby in about 3 months, but apperantly al the videos of it with my upcomming fullframe masterpeace will be out of focus BECASUE I CAN'T SEE PROPPER.

Don't say its not on there only because pro's don't use it!
I NEED AUTOFOCUS!
"Real" pro's uses the C300 or better and f**k you if you think your a pro videographer because you have a fullframe body that takes video and you and your friends have been mocking about with expencive equipment.
And the same if you think people who uses autofucus because they don't have a friend to follow focus for them.

PS. Sorry about my bad english, I'm a halfblind drunk swede on a pad without spellingcorrection who only uses autofucus.

 

[Neeneko]

I'm so sick of this meaningless platitude: "well anyone who's SERIOUS about (videography/photography) doesn't do this, or use this." Why are there so many photographers and videographers who are actually posting this crap?

Both are highly competitive (and shrinking) fields where image and convincing clients that you are 'real' is critical for advancing. So you get a lot of posturing and competing for status. Though TBH you get the same basic pattern in a lot of fields... technology is a big one, but I see the same ranting in art related forums too. Photography, due to its overlap, probably gets a double dose.

 

[Canon-F1]

I'm so sick of this meaningless platitude: "well anyone who's SERIOUS about (videography/photography) doesn't do this, or use this." Why are there so many photographers and videographers who are actually posting this crap?

because it´s true.
only because everybody can film 1080p today that does not mean they know what they are doing...

the web is full of crap videos.

and i really love the AF hunting in videos, it looks so professionell.... ;D