5ds or 5dsr - which to rent?

[Chuck Alaimo]

So, hmmmm. Which to rent? The S or the R.

Those that know me here know I mostly do weddings with some dabblings in landscapes and city scapes. I have 2 weddings and a few E-shoots coming up so I figure if there is a good time to give one of these monsters a test, that's a pretty good 14 day period.

I believe I am set lens wise for a big MP body - in the bag I have 70-200 2.8 mk2, 135mm f2, 85mm 1.8, 100mm 2.8 macro, 35mm 1.4 ART, 24 1.4 v2L and 16-35mm 2.8v2

So again, the vast majority of my glass should smile on MP's. Just not sure if I should go for the R or the S. Would the whole Moire thing be a PITA for what I'm doing?

 

[StudentOfLight]

In your position considering items like clothing and brickwork in buildings I'd go for the 5Ds. Various sources claim that the difference between 5Ds and 5Ds-R is not huge SOOC. I would think that you could just fine-tune your sharpening in post to compensate for the slight difference.

 

[Eldar]

I have about 2500 shots with the 5DSR so far, no moiré. But I do not shoot weddings, so your situation is different from mine. To be on the safe side I´d rent the 5DS. It is still SO much more than you´ve ever had to work on before, so I´m sure you´ll be happy, inspired and consequently broke

 

[msm]

TDP's review is up and this should answer your question accurately:

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EOS-5Ds-R.aspx

 

[Chuck Alaimo]

sounds like I should rent the S version. The only issue is, if I rent the S, then decide 50mp's is something I can handle and work with. At first I put this body on the niche/extremely limited use shelf because of the limited ISO, but many have said it works fine throughout the native range. Due to file size it will still be limited use (thinking engagemenet shoots, formal bride and groom stuff, bridal party, family posed shots, bridal portraits, and more than likely some of the first dance). But if this body does handle iso 3200 well, then it can also be the second body for ceremonies (toss the 35mm art on it but be more mindful of each time I press the shutter).

I guess I see the reasoning of the S, but if I go that route then do I rent the R version before buying? Will part of me always wish I had gotten the other version (guess that could go either way!).

 

[privatebydesign]

Chuck,

The first time you lose a key shot because it takes you hours to not get rid of the moire in a brides veil you will wish you had listened to your inner voice. For weddings, where you just don't have the time to check and reshoot, I think the R is a mistake waiting to really kick you in the balls.

 

[StudentOfLight]

Chuck,

The first time you lose a key shot because it takes you hours to not get rid of the moire in a brides veil you will wish you had listened to your inner voice. For weddings, where you just don't have the time to check and reshoot, I think the R is a mistake waiting to really kick you in the balls.

I follow your train of thought. I'm sitting in the second carriage.

 

[Don Haines]

Chuck,

The first time you lose a key shot because it takes you hours to not get rid of the moire in a brides veil you will wish you had listened to your inner voice. For weddings, where you just don't have the time to check and reshoot, I think the R is a mistake waiting to really kick you in the balls.

I agree. Experimenting with gear for a paid shoot like a wedding is asking for trouble...

 

[Chuck Alaimo]

Chuck,

The first time you lose a key shot because it takes you hours to not get rid of the moire in a brides veil you will wish you had listened to your inner voice. For weddings, where you just don't have the time to check and reshoot, I think the R is a mistake waiting to really kick you in the balls.

I agree. Experimenting with gear for a paid shoot like a wedding is asking for trouble...

True, I'm going with the S. Getting it a few days before the wedding so I can get a feel for it - I'll still have a md3 and a 6d with me so if I feel squimish I can always just use the familiar. But, I am looking forward to the challenge of using the 5ds....

 

[Sporgon]

Chuck,

The first time you lose a key shot because it takes you hours to not get rid of the moire in a brides veil you will wish you had listened to your inner voice. For weddings, where you just don't have the time to check and reshoot, I think the R is a mistake waiting to really kick you in the balls.

;D I'd get the 5Ds and I don't even shoot many weddings.

Interesting marketing though: looks like Canon have taken a leaf out of Nikon's book: initially make the AA-less one less available and charge extra - create demand and desire for the 'better one' and take the £200 extra profit.

What of the second hand values in time to come ? Well judging by the used prices of Nikon D800 / 800e I would say that you will always get your extra £200 back, even in five years time.

 

[StudentOfLight]

Chuck,

The first time you lose a key shot because it takes you hours to not get rid of the moire in a brides veil you will wish you had listened to your inner voice. For weddings, where you just don't have the time to check and reshoot, I think the R is a mistake waiting to really kick you in the balls.

I agree. Experimenting with gear for a paid shoot like a wedding is asking for trouble...

True, I'm going with the S. Getting it a few days before the wedding so I can get a feel for it - I'll still have a md3 and a 6d with me so if I feel squimish I can always just use the familiar. But, I am looking forward to the challenge of using the 5ds....

I shot a my first wedding last weekend and had one shot that had three images in it, all telling beautiful stories. My lighting was good so the crops hold up reasonably well but with the extra resolution they would undoubtedly been better and more usable for larger prints in the album.