6D or 5D3 (or wait for 7d2?)
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Wait for 5D4 imo. ;D
But seriously. Nikon's success with the exmor sensor has forced Canon's hand.
Canon's new sensor tech is just around the corner, which means that the 5D3 will get a very short race, and be replaced by the 5D4 sooner than later.
And then I woke up..
But seriously. Nikon's success with the exmor sensor has forced Canon's hand.
Canon's new sensor tech is just around the corner, which means that the 5D3 will get a very short race, and be replaced by the 5D4 sooner than later.
And then I woke up..
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LewisShermer
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5Diii, deffo
5Diii! it's mental off the rails. I had this issue last week, played with the 6D and 5Diii for a bit and I've never known anything like it. it's totally rad! I use a 1Ds mkiii at work and the 5Diii blows that MF out of the water on everything from handling to IQ. I can't believe I never got one before like 10 years ago...
for serous though, if it's not going to totally smash the bank, go for the 5Diii. you might be missing the WiFi thing but for everything else it's bonkers.
5Diii! it's mental off the rails. I had this issue last week, played with the 6D and 5Diii for a bit and I've never known anything like it. it's totally rad! I use a 1Ds mkiii at work and the 5Diii blows that MF out of the water on everything from handling to IQ. I can't believe I never got one before like 10 years ago...
for serous though, if it's not going to totally smash the bank, go for the 5Diii. you might be missing the WiFi thing but for everything else it's bonkers.
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If you are shooting portraits of you kids, why the sweat over high ISO? You will get great results from anywhere between 100 and 400 ISO. Unless you are an equipment junky, do not upgrade just to get super high ISO camera functions, unless you want to shoot in the dark! 
You are right about the full frame being better. Due to the larger area, the pixels are larger and they can gather more light, with results in lower noise problems. I have a 5D Mk II, and I love it, because I keep it
within its performance boundaries. Great pics.
You are right about the full frame being better. Due to the larger area, the pixels are larger and they can gather more light, with results in lower noise problems. I have a 5D Mk II, and I love it, because I keep it
within its performance boundaries. Great pics.
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Adcom used to have a Print ad: and one is reminded of it:
"Good things come to those who wait"
You cannot go wrong by waiting till march next year. The 7Dii will be great, but if they up the MP on it, then the ISO might not see a marked improvement (as you might get from the 6D).
Just wait and see how it plays out.
"Good things come to those who wait"
You cannot go wrong by waiting till march next year. The 7Dii will be great, but if they up the MP on it, then the ISO might not see a marked improvement (as you might get from the 6D).
Just wait and see how it plays out.
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Dylan777 said:
Dylan... if you have $2600 spare... perhaps you might consider the 7Dii (instead of a 5diii) as a second body... your 70-200 will get more reach.
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Dylan777 said:
Personally, I'm a big fan of flash photography, but in a way you cannot or can only barely see there was artificial light involved - and to let the background meld with the lit object high iso capability is important as well.
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a 1/2 stop improvement for a new model is typical, do not expect 1 stop or more in a 7D MK II unless they go to a rear illuminated sensor. They are very near the limit that their current technology permits. There is only limited space for wiring to run between photosites, and making the wiring smaller is not a option, the voltage floats too high and crosstalk results in a poor image.
Rear illuminated sensors allow larger wiring and that allows you to boost the sensitivity of the photosites with less noise.
Rear illuminated sensors allow larger wiring and that allows you to boost the sensitivity of the photosites with less noise.
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MARKOE PHOTOE
Photography is a love affair with life.
IMHO, you should know what the current models are capable of by renting one or both and trying them out. You can take this to the bank, but Canon will always be producing new cameras with new features to stay competitive with company 'X'. Hopefully each new series will be better than the previous. If nothing else, technology loses value in 12 months anyway. But I always have a camera with me for that 'shot' that didn't get away.
For me personally, I'm ready to sell my 7D in preparation of what lies ahead for the 7D2. I've got a 5D3 and 1D4 that covers all I need (or want) at the moment. Selling my 1D4 is next in line.
Best of luck.
For me personally, I'm ready to sell my 7D in preparation of what lies ahead for the 7D2. I've got a 5D3 and 1D4 that covers all I need (or want) at the moment. Selling my 1D4 is next in line.
Best of luck.
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MARKOE PHOTOE said:
But factually the next camera will be *different* than the previous, meaning the various tradeoffs will be shifted around, and that includes the price. For example when the 60d was released many people quickly got a 50d because of the regressions (afma, body) and since they didn't want to get a 7d.
Thus the only certain factor is that specific camera bodies (not lenses) will drop in price, well, except if your local economy collapses :-o
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Marsu42 said:
Here is my "super-skill" of PP when I need an object stands out under low light
J.KMost of my photos are just family moments - kids running around the house and family vacation etc... nothing special.
I did have a chance to play with the studio lighting few months back. Yes....it's very nice to have proper lighting when we serious about photography.
For now, I like FF plus my fav 24-70 + 70-200. I'm thinking about 50L this x-mas, since I have over $500 cash value with Crutchfiled.
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ScottyP said:
If you're talking high ISO SNR, the chances are next to none -- as others have stated more like half a stop. Take a look at the DxO webpage (in particular, the graphs of SNR and dynamic range vs ISO for different cameras). The progression over the years has been incremental at best. For example, the 5DIII is not substantially better than the 5DII (in terms of sensor performance)
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Dylan777 said:
I might go with a 85mm f1.8 or maybe not... the 70-200 got that range covered. Nothing is very exciting at the moment apart from $7000+ lenses which I don't have.... Maybe the 50L.... not sure... :-\
You got the 5D3 for low light... if you want better low light/ High ISO... the 6D is very good isnt it?
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Dylan777 said:Marsu42 said:
Here is my "super-skill" of PP when I need an object stands out under low light
Most of my photos are just family moments - kids running around the house and family vacation etc... nothing special.
I did have a chance to play with the studio lighting few months back. Yes....it's very nice to have proper lighting when we serious about photography.
For now, I like FF plus my fav 24-70 + 70-200. I'm thinking about 50L this x-mas, since I have over $500 cash value with Crutchfiled.
This would look a lot better if you're using a fill-in flash. Scenes like these, I'll go full manual, meter on the background (most probably, requiring high ISO), and use an external fill-in flash to illuminate the foreground. Even a cheap third party flash will greatly improve these kind of shots. Just my 2 cents.
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Crapking
"Whatever you are....be a good one." AL
no offense meant, but that post-production processing software may be fine for Facebook but nothing I would consider printing.
Getting it right "in camera" (fill flash/better low light performance of the sensor, proper metering, etc) should be the goal.
Getting it right "in camera" (fill flash/better low light performance of the sensor, proper metering, etc) should be the goal.
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