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There are tons of images from the 6D on CR. Its been around a long time now.
There are tons of images from the 6D on CR. Its been around a long time now.
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Actually, I think a more constructive and informative thread would be this one: http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=12847.0
Currently at 11 pages. The impression I've gotten is that most 6D users are pleasantly surprised at the quality they are getting and see only a few drawbacks. Most have done their own cost-benefit analysis and concluded the extra cost of the 5DIII could not be justified for them.
Currently at 11 pages. The impression I've gotten is that most 6D users are pleasantly surprised at the quality they are getting and see only a few drawbacks. Most have done their own cost-benefit analysis and concluded the extra cost of the 5DIII could not be justified for them.
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I love it for landscapes and nature (your values may differ).
Pros:
Wonderful pictures, especially in terms of pixel-level detail, color, and print resolution.
Practically no noise up to ISO 1600.
Excellent noise characteristics at very high ISO, giving a fine film grain sort of look.
GPS stamping on photos. Love that.
Prime lenses become more spacious than on crop cameras.
Solid but light. No problems carrying it in one hand for hours at a time.
Cons:
Could really use more AF points.
Have to wait for buffer to clear after about 15 shots in rapid succession.
Very slow to focus with 100mm L macro (dunno if that's just me).
Battery runs out overnight if you forget to turn GPS off.
Telephoto lenses have much less reach than on crop cameras.
Overall, close to perfect for what I do.
Pros:
Wonderful pictures, especially in terms of pixel-level detail, color, and print resolution.
Practically no noise up to ISO 1600.
Excellent noise characteristics at very high ISO, giving a fine film grain sort of look.
GPS stamping on photos. Love that.
Prime lenses become more spacious than on crop cameras.
Solid but light. No problems carrying it in one hand for hours at a time.
Cons:
Could really use more AF points.
Have to wait for buffer to clear after about 15 shots in rapid succession.
Very slow to focus with 100mm L macro (dunno if that's just me).
Battery runs out overnight if you forget to turn GPS off.
Telephoto lenses have much less reach than on crop cameras.
Overall, close to perfect for what I do.
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If you need extreme low-light performance but you don't need top-of-the-line autofocus then the 6D is probably the best camera you can get.
Pros:
Incredible full frame IQ
Easily usable images at ISO 12800
Center focus point is quick, accurate, and works even when there's no light (other points work great, but in good light only)
Build quality is excellent
Wi-fi and GPS if you're into that (I'm not, but I did try them both and they work great)
Cons:
Not strobist friendly (Minor complaints, such as lacks PC sync port, 1/4000 max shutter, 1/180 sync speed)
Only one card slot (but Canon never puts 2 slots in the cheaper bodies)
Autofocus leaves something to be desired for those who shoot fast moving subjects
Pros:
Incredible full frame IQ
Easily usable images at ISO 12800
Center focus point is quick, accurate, and works even when there's no light (other points work great, but in good light only)
Build quality is excellent
Wi-fi and GPS if you're into that (I'm not, but I did try them both and they work great)
Cons:
Not strobist friendly (Minor complaints, such as lacks PC sync port, 1/4000 max shutter, 1/180 sync speed)
Only one card slot (but Canon never puts 2 slots in the cheaper bodies)
Autofocus leaves something to be desired for those who shoot fast moving subjects
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Yeah! Baby!...the 6D is 'shaggadelic'! It's got the mojo. It's groovy, baby, oh behave.
Oh, I'm sorry, did you want some actual specific comments about the camera? Well here's one, If you don't like it, then there is no pleasing you.
Oh, I'm sorry, did you want some actual specific comments about the camera? Well here's one, If you don't like it, then there is no pleasing you.
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Enough said...... see what the experts think.......
http://www.voxy.co.nz/technology/european-award-marks-third-major-title-canon-eos-6d/5/164950
http://www.voxy.co.nz/technology/european-award-marks-third-major-title-canon-eos-6d/5/164950
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Search my comments on the 6D. I feel I have covered it pretty well, as has of course Dustin (many of my comments are in his thread, but there are quite a few other threads). I've compared and edited the 6D's files with the 5D3's and the 1DX's...and have over 8000 cycles on my 6D.
Basically there are people on here who seem to feel the need to bash the 6D because it's not the 5D3, hence the 5D3 is what they bought. So to them, if you use a 6D, you aren't as serious a photographer as they are, no matter what type of photography you do. They aren't hard to spot.
It's not so much that the 6D needs "more" autofocus points...it's that they should all be "cross type". Honestly an AF sensor similar or identical to the 7D's would have been nice. But that would have put the price, and especially the performance...too close to the 5D3...and thus would create a competing product line...which was never going to happen.
Barring the above, I feel Canon should at least update the firmware or whatever runs the autofocus sensor/system's processing...to make it "handoff" to the center point, when all points are active...rather than avoid it...since the center point is the only really good point. (This is the nature of the problem mine has when I attempt to make its servo tracking **** up.) But it's something I am happy to live with though, because I know how to make the system work perfectly fine (by leaving only center point active while in servo mode).
Then there's supposedly an issue with its color, or white balance, or color gamut...or whatever...to me this seems more like a trumped-up nitpicking session by those who are prejudiced against the 6D. The color is fantastic, period. The luminance noise at the pixel level is world class, especially above ISO 1000.
As for the weather sealing, there is some, but not much. The 6D is not technically "splash proof". I suppose it's also less impervious to dust...but if you're shooting in a very dusty environment...dust will find its way into everything even on the best sealed cameras. What makes me cringe the most about dust, is when it gets inside and in between the lens elements. There's no cleaning that without disassembly, usually by a Canon tech.
In my opinion, if you value "low-noise-at-medium-high-ISO" image quality and are price-conscious...the 6D is a no-brainer. But if you don't mind a slightly larger/heavier body...if you need loads of speed (comparatively) and all the bells and whistles, and are happy to throw down the 50% price premium...and don't mind the large luminance noise grain structure in the images above ISO 1000...and/or if you mostly need to shoot a lot of video, especially ML hacked RAW video...then the 5D3 is the no-brainer. For many, buying both cameras has also worked out well.
Basically there are people on here who seem to feel the need to bash the 6D because it's not the 5D3, hence the 5D3 is what they bought. So to them, if you use a 6D, you aren't as serious a photographer as they are, no matter what type of photography you do. They aren't hard to spot.
It's not so much that the 6D needs "more" autofocus points...it's that they should all be "cross type". Honestly an AF sensor similar or identical to the 7D's would have been nice. But that would have put the price, and especially the performance...too close to the 5D3...and thus would create a competing product line...which was never going to happen.
Barring the above, I feel Canon should at least update the firmware or whatever runs the autofocus sensor/system's processing...to make it "handoff" to the center point, when all points are active...rather than avoid it...since the center point is the only really good point. (This is the nature of the problem mine has when I attempt to make its servo tracking **** up.) But it's something I am happy to live with though, because I know how to make the system work perfectly fine (by leaving only center point active while in servo mode).
Then there's supposedly an issue with its color, or white balance, or color gamut...or whatever...to me this seems more like a trumped-up nitpicking session by those who are prejudiced against the 6D. The color is fantastic, period. The luminance noise at the pixel level is world class, especially above ISO 1000.
As for the weather sealing, there is some, but not much. The 6D is not technically "splash proof". I suppose it's also less impervious to dust...but if you're shooting in a very dusty environment...dust will find its way into everything even on the best sealed cameras. What makes me cringe the most about dust, is when it gets inside and in between the lens elements. There's no cleaning that without disassembly, usually by a Canon tech.
In my opinion, if you value "low-noise-at-medium-high-ISO" image quality and are price-conscious...the 6D is a no-brainer. But if you don't mind a slightly larger/heavier body...if you need loads of speed (comparatively) and all the bells and whistles, and are happy to throw down the 50% price premium...and don't mind the large luminance noise grain structure in the images above ISO 1000...and/or if you mostly need to shoot a lot of video, especially ML hacked RAW video...then the 5D3 is the no-brainer. For many, buying both cameras has also worked out well.
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This thread is also probably worth a look -
http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=15572.0
The title is "what do you not like about the Canon 6D" but it's not all negative - there is some discussion of pros as well as cons.
http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=15572.0
The title is "what do you not like about the Canon 6D" but it's not all negative - there is some discussion of pros as well as cons.
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One very bad - and in the end also positive - experience.
I can now testify, that the 6D body has proven to be absolutely robust and solid.
This is based on a nightmare type of experience (could also be reported in the post about 'dont ever do this'):
I was setting up in my basement for a special shoot in the garden using a Canon 24 mm TS/E and tripod.
The camera with the TS/E was mounted on the tripod at about 4 feet above the concrete floor.
Then I moved the column of the tripod to a horisontal position (my Manfrotto tripod allows that) and turned around to fix someting else. Then a heard a gruelling crash. The tripod had tipped over, and the camera hit the floor.
Stupid me overlooking that the center of gravity had shifted slightly outside the support of the tripod.
Examining the camera and optics, I noted that the whole setup had landed on the upper right corner of the body, and there were marks from the impact on the floor as well as on the 6D body.
No dents - only paint-scrapes. The lens did not show any marks, so the camera took the full blow.
With shaking hands I examined the camera further, the lens, the mount etc. Nothing visibly affected.
Then testing the function of both - all seem to work perfectly well and normal. And they still do. Even focus as well as image sharpness over the whole image seems to be unaffected.
Conclusions:
1. Now I have tried it - so you don't have to do it yourselves.
2. The 6D body - including the upper part which is said to be made from some sturdy plastic material - is rock solid
3. The 24 TS/E did well, too.
4. Considering the weight of this lens, the mount between lens and body stood the test as well.
5. The laws of Newton even applies for FF bodies - and for TS/E lenses. (although I am sure he did not consider that specifically). So I will not challenge those laws any further.
If you have any suggestions for what to test further - and how - to verify that the equipment is actually not affected in any way, please suggest these to me.
PS: As to the other virtues of the 6D I have posted my (less gruelling) experiences in other posts - I guess all of these are linked above.
I can now testify, that the 6D body has proven to be absolutely robust and solid.
This is based on a nightmare type of experience (could also be reported in the post about 'dont ever do this'):
I was setting up in my basement for a special shoot in the garden using a Canon 24 mm TS/E and tripod.
The camera with the TS/E was mounted on the tripod at about 4 feet above the concrete floor.
Then I moved the column of the tripod to a horisontal position (my Manfrotto tripod allows that) and turned around to fix someting else. Then a heard a gruelling crash. The tripod had tipped over, and the camera hit the floor.
Stupid me overlooking that the center of gravity had shifted slightly outside the support of the tripod.
Examining the camera and optics, I noted that the whole setup had landed on the upper right corner of the body, and there were marks from the impact on the floor as well as on the 6D body.
No dents - only paint-scrapes. The lens did not show any marks, so the camera took the full blow.
With shaking hands I examined the camera further, the lens, the mount etc. Nothing visibly affected.
Then testing the function of both - all seem to work perfectly well and normal. And they still do. Even focus as well as image sharpness over the whole image seems to be unaffected.
Conclusions:
1. Now I have tried it - so you don't have to do it yourselves.
2. The 6D body - including the upper part which is said to be made from some sturdy plastic material - is rock solid
3. The 24 TS/E did well, too.
4. Considering the weight of this lens, the mount between lens and body stood the test as well.
5. The laws of Newton even applies for FF bodies - and for TS/E lenses. (although I am sure he did not consider that specifically). So I will not challenge those laws any further.
If you have any suggestions for what to test further - and how - to verify that the equipment is actually not affected in any way, please suggest these to me.
PS: As to the other virtues of the 6D I have posted my (less gruelling) experiences in other posts - I guess all of these are linked above.
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CarlTN said:
Valid point, and IMO a programming error. It's obvious to use the 'set' button to return to centre point yet it cannot be assigned to this function in the custom menu.
Using the set button in this way would be the same as pressing in the toggle on the 5D.
Can we have suggestions on the best way to communicate this proposal to Canon ?
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aroo said:
You're using the fastest sd card available like Sandisk Extreme Pro?
aroo said:
Slow in comparison to what - do you have another body to compare? The 100L's af is very slow, it's a macro lens after all.
aroo said:
Rejoice, Magic Lantern probably will add a feature to auto-turn gps off an on
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aroo said:
Even on days where I've shot hundreds of pictures, it still doesn't drain overnight. If the battery is down far enough for it to drain overnight, it would be showing the empty battery on the viewfinder the night before. If yours is discharging much faster than that, first turn off the track log if you have it turned on. If that doesn't fix the problem, try a different battery. I did have the behavior you describe once when using a so-called "high capacity" third-party battery.
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CarlTN said:
This is a fair assessment. When it came time for me to upgrade, I compared the features and the feel in my hand and went for the 6D. I was not, and am not, disappointed. It works more than well for what I do 95% of the time.
I just recently acquired a 5D3 as a gift from a family member. Yes, I am extremely fortunate. I still love my 6D. I rarely use shutter speeds > 1/4000th, though I have sometimes in the past. A neutral density filter fixes that. I don't shoot video. I occasionally shoot birds and airplanes, but only occasionally. I can do that with the 6D but probably will do it better with the 5D3 and have more keepers. I also don't shoot in a monsoon, though I doubt the 5D3 would hold up that well either. For that you'd need a 1D X and a weather sealed lens.
I'm hoping that Canon comes up with a firmware upgrade to fix the tracking issue, though leaving only the center point active works ok.
The controls are a mixed bag. The "Play" button on the 6D is easy to find with your shooting thumb. It's mixed in with three other buttons on the left side of the LCD on the 5D3. There are some other pros and cons of each.
I'm going to keep both and I suspect I will use both. For what I do, I would not have bought a 5D3 though having it is nice. I had kept a 60D to as a backup/second body for the few weddings and events I do each year. That's now going to eBay.
For my forays into the nightlife, I'll carry my 6D.
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