7D mark 2 crop vs full frame

[flyingSquirrel]

I'm curious if you'd prefer the 7D mark 2 to have a crop sensor (aps-c or aps-h) or a full frame sensor. Many have stated they would be delighted if it were full frame, and others would be highly disappointed if it were anything but a crop sensor. I realize that some other factors may have an effect on your answer (possibly the MP count) but in general I think you'll have a preference, regardless of those factors.

 

[Menace]

It will not be a mark 2 of the original 7D if it wasn't an APS-C sensor.

 

[Eldar]

An APS-C sensor, around 24 MP, with improved high ISO performance and (I´m almost afraid to say it) improved DR would make an interesting start. If it came in a house with as close to pro body sealing as possible, improved fps and, most importantly to me, an AF system like we have in the 5DIII/1DX, it would make a Very interesting camera. The ultimate bonus would be if it (on top of the above) also could AF at f/8.0 (AF at 1920mm!!)

Personally I am waiting for it with anticipation, to complement my 1DX for birds and wildlife. If it comes with the above, it would, combined with the 200-400 f4L IS 1.4x or the 300 f2.8L IS II (which I then would get) & extenders, make a very potent and convenient package for longer hikes and also when you need the extra reach and getting more pixels on the subject and improved focusing ability.

 

[Skulker]

I think it will be a crop sensor.

but if it is i don't think i will be getting one. I don't like the idea of carrying all that L glass around and then chucking away the light it gathers. To me that's silly. And the F'F's crop so well.

and hats of to the man above who is planning long hikes with his 200-400.

 

[Eldar]

and hats of to the man above who is planning long hikes with his 200-400.

The 200-400 is heavy, but the alternative is a 1DX with the 600, extenders and an additional lens or two to cover the shorter focal lengths. So all in all, a 7DII with the 200-400 is quite compact (everything is relative) and not that heavy. A 7DII with the 300/2.8 II, with the extenders is more appealing carrying option though

 

[2n10]

It will not be a mark 2 of the original 7D if it wasn't an APS-C sensor.

This, it will be an APS-C sensor. I am looking forward to see what the new technology will be along with the specs.

 

[andrewfusekpeters]

yes, it's an interesting comparison, but having now got the 1dx and shooting regularly handheld with 500F4 and the 1.4x extender {and even the 2x}, and then swapping back the 7d sometimes, I can see why pro shooters use the 1dx - focusing, noise, all of it trounces 7d. Was shooting flycatcher fledgelings in the nest at dusk, at 10,000 iso and with a little NR in lightroom you could not tell - also gives me plenty of reach. Yes, would love a 7d2 with awesome noise abilities and the focusing of the 1dx - let' see what canon does. Have also played with a pentax K3 which, if the lenses were available, would be a good contender...

 

[pwp]

You could say we already have a full frame 7DII in the shape of the 5DIII. A FF 7DII is just not going to happen. Nor is an APS-H...it's a guaranteed APS-C.

As the owner of a now very heavily used 1D MkIV, I voted APS-H, but the reality is that we're unlikely to see this format again from Canon.

-pw

 

[Loswr]

Prefer? Doesn't matter. A 7D Mark II will be APS-C, or it wouldn't be called a 7D Mark II.

 

[bardamu]

It should have a crop factor of 1.5, to match Nikon, etc.

 

[wickidwombat]

it will be APS-C
but i selected APS-H since i wish it would be and it annoys alot of people

 

[Click]

It will not be a mark 2 of the original 7D if it wasn't an APS-C sensor.

+1

 

[2n10]

It should have a crop factor of 1.5, to match Nikon, etc.

Why should it match Nikon?

 

[Dylan777]

It will not be a mark 2 of the original 7D if it wasn't an APS-C sensor.

+1

 

[garyknrd]

An APS-C sensor, around 24 MP, with improved high ISO performance and (I´m almost afraid to say it) improved DR would make an interesting start. If it came in a house with as close to pro body sealing as possible, improved fps and, most importantly to me, an AF system like we have in the 5DIII/1DX, it would make a Very interesting camera. The ultimate bonus would be if it (on top of the above) also could AF at f/8.0 (AF at 1920mm!!)

+1

 

[flyingSquirrel]

I think it will be a crop sensor. but if it is i don't think i will be getting one. I don't like the idea of carrying all that L glass around and then chucking away the light it gathers. To me that's silly. And the F'F's crop so well.

I'm not sure I understand what you are saying (in bold). Could you please explain / elaborate a little? Thanks

 

[Sporgon]

Just how would a FF '7D' fit into the current 6D/5D/1D line up ? As has been pointed out it would hardly be a 7D anyway. The crop bodies offer faster, lighter, greater dof - all of this cheaper than the equivalent FF.

Why would it want to be FF ?

( Note: those wanting a 1Dx re-badged as 7DII at 7D prices need not reply . )

 

[Skulker]

I think it will be a crop sensor. but if it is i don't think i will be getting one. I don't like the idea of carrying all that L glass around and then chucking away the light it gathers. To me that's silly. And the F'F's crop so well.

I'm not sure I understand what you are saying (in bold). Could you please explain / elaborate a little? Thanks

Just one of my pet niggles. ;D The crop sensors only record a cropped part of the image produced by a FF lens. A lens designed for a crop frame camera would be much lighter and cheaper to manufacture (and hopefully to buy) than lenses that are designed for FF. Its not going to happen but I wish Canon would produce a good range of L quality lenses to get the best from crop cameras.

 

[Loswr]

I think it will be a crop sensor. but if it is i don't think i will be getting one. I don't like the idea of carrying all that L glass around and then chucking away the light it gathers. To me that's silly. And the F'F's crop so well.

I'm not sure I understand what you are saying (in bold). Could you please explain / elaborate a little? Thanks

Just one of my pet niggles. ;D The crop sensors only record a cropped part of the image produced by a FF lens. A lens designed for a crop frame camera would be much lighter and cheaper to manufacture (and hopefully to buy) than lenses that are designed for FF. Its not going to happen but I wish Canon would produce a good range of L quality lenses to get the best from crop cameras.

Just so long as you understand that particular niggle does not apply universally to all lens designs. In particular, the largest and heaviest lenses would gain little to no benefit from a smaller image circle.

 

[DominoDude]

An APS-C sensor, around 24 MP, with improved high ISO performance and (I´m almost afraid to say it) improved DR would make an interesting start. If it came in a house with as close to pro body sealing as possible, improved fps and, most importantly to me, an AF system like we have in the 5DIII/1DX, it would make a Very interesting camera. The ultimate bonus would be if it (on top of the above) also could AF at f/8.0 (AF at 1920mm!!)

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+1 and +drool