85L or 135L?

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kennephoto said:
Thanks Surapon, I was most curious about the 1D as I thought it was an old 1D. Makes me think I should use my 1D classic more!


Yes, Sir----, Mr. Kennephoto, Canon 1DS MK I, and Canon 1D MK I are one of the best for long/ Long Time-----Just My IDEA, for Hooby shooting, any camera that have more than 8 MP are great for me ( for Facebook Photos), And I still use my First DSLR, Canon 20D up to date for shoot with Canon EF 180 MM F/ 3.5 L Macro for shoot the Insects and the flowers.
Nice to talk to you, Sir.
Surapon
 
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The Canon 85 1.2L II is a bit slow on Af, but don't get this lense wrong. Normally you're supposed to shoot models or persons acting in about 50 cm difference from for-/backwards. The lense has no problem to focus in an appropriate time in such short distances, it's just pumping if you loose the focuspoint and it starts to slide to infinity.

I never got any problems with the speed except of those minutes I tried to catch my small girl while running through the picture. But that's not a problem of the lense, it's a problem of me, chosing the wrong one ;) Getting the 100L 2.8 IS on the cam and the problem is solved (switched to 1.8m-infinity, only).

If you like to know why the 85mm 1.2L is slow you can see the chunk of glass right here:

http://tinyurl.com/p7hr94v

[...] The inner lens is mounted on a ball bearing with 72 balls to keep it under its own weight[...] ;D
 
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vscd said:
The Canon 85 1.2L II is a bit slow on Af, but don't get this lense wrong. Normally you're supposed to shoot models or persons acting in about 50 cm difference from for-/backwards. The lense has no problem to focus in an appropriate time in such short distances, it's just pumping if you loose the focuspoint and it starts to slide to infinity.

I never got any problems with the speed except of those minutes I tried to catch my small girl while running through the picture. But that's not a problem of the lense, it's a problem of me, chosing the wrong one ;) Getting the 100L 2.8 IS on the cam and the problem is solved (switched to 1.8m-infinity, only).

If you like to know why the 85mm 1.2L is slow you can see the chunk of glass right here:

http://tinyurl.com/p7hr94v

[...] The inner lens is mounted on a ball bearing with 72 balls to keep it under its own weight[...] ;D


Wow, Wow, Wow
Thank you, Sir. Mr. vscd
For your great Words, and Plus great Link too---That are the awesome inside Photos of the Monster Lens EF 85 1.2 L II.
Wow, That Man must to be a Great Engineer to Reverse Engineer of this Lens.
Surapon
 
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The 85 1.2L II is heavy and slow, but it is just soooo good. Here´s an example (BTW, this is straight out of the camera, raw to jpg through Lightroom);
By the way, there is one fault (that I know of) in this image. What is it?
 

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Eldar said:
The 85 1.2L II is heavy and slow, but it is just soooo good. Here´s an example (BTW, this is straight out of the camera, raw to jpg through Lightroom);
By the way, there is one fault (that I know of) in this image. What is it?
The tag is showing :) On my crappy uncalibrated monitor at work, it also looks like her right shoulder disappears into the background, but that wouldn't be a mistake. How does PS content area fill handle the tag ;)?

And yes, it's an amazing lens - I wish I hadn't waited so long to buy it.
 
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mackguyver said:
Eldar said:
The 85 1.2L II is heavy and slow, but it is just soooo good. Here´s an example (BTW, this is straight out of the camera, raw to jpg through Lightroom);
By the way, there is one fault (that I know of) in this image. What is it?
The tag is showing :) On my crappy uncalibrated monitor at work, it also looks like her right shoulder disappears into the background, but that wouldn't be a mistake. How does PS content area fill handle the tag ;)?

And yes, it's an amazing lens - I wish I hadn't waited so long to buy it.
You got it. I bit my fingers when I saw it :'(
 
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Eldar said:
mackguyver said:
Eldar said:
The 85 1.2L II is heavy and slow, but it is just soooo good. Here´s an example (BTW, this is straight out of the camera, raw to jpg through Lightroom);
By the way, there is one fault (that I know of) in this image. What is it?
The tag is showing :) On my crappy uncalibrated monitor at work, it also looks like her right shoulder disappears into the background, but that wouldn't be a mistake. How does PS content area fill handle the tag ;)?

And yes, it's an amazing lens - I wish I hadn't waited so long to buy it.
You got it. I bit my fingers when I saw it :'(
I know the feeling. So obvious after the fact, but never during the shot. It's no wonder pros keep stylists on hand as an extra pair of eyes. I've made similar mistakes that aren't so fixable in PS. A crooked bowtie was one of the toughest to fix, but bra straps under mesh sweaters, and wrinkles, or loose threads on any kind of finely patterned clothes.

And that's in the studio. I have had beautiful wildlife portraits ruined by twigs that were really hard to see through the VF at f/2.8.
 
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surapon said:
bornshooter said:
surapon love it :-) but i am 32 and carrying 2 body's 1dx and 5d3 with 70-200 and 24-70 2.8 you must be one fit man loaded up like that lol

Ha, Ha, Ha---Dear , Sir, Mr Bornshooter.
You still very young man , just 32 , You can carry 48 Pounds Back pack too + 3 more bodies and Big Lenses. Yes, I am 65 Years young ( At heart), and still carry 48 Pounds of Camera Back Pack around the world---Yes, 50 Pounds are the Limits of Carry-On on Airplane.
Nice to talk to you, Sir.
Surapon.
PS " at a wedding all day i have sore legs and back "-----My Tricks = Use " Tiger Balm" to massarge my Legs and my shoulders in the night time after the wedding photography----Ha, Ha, Ha.

http://www.amazon.com/TIGER-BALM-NECK-SHOULDER-1-76/dp/B00266PFHE
Thank you for the reply surapon :-) so tiger balm is the secret lol :)
 
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bornshooter said:
surapon said:
bornshooter said:
surapon love it :-) but i am 32 and carrying 2 body's 1dx and 5d3 with 70-200 and 24-70 2.8 you must be one fit man loaded up like that lol

Ha, Ha, Ha---Dear , Sir, Mr Bornshooter.
You still very young man , just 32 , You can carry 48 Pounds Back pack too + 3 more bodies and Big Lenses. Yes, I am 65 Years young ( At heart), and still carry 48 Pounds of Camera Back Pack around the world---Yes, 50 Pounds are the Limits of Carry-On on Airplane.
Nice to talk to you, Sir.
Surapon.
PS " at a wedding all day i have sore legs and back "-----My Tricks = Use " Tiger Balm" to massarge my Legs and my shoulders in the night time after the wedding photography----Ha, Ha, Ha.

http://www.amazon.com/TIGER-BALM-NECK-SHOULDER-1-76/dp/B00266PFHE
Thank you for the reply surapon :-) so tiger balm is the secret lol :)

Yes, Sir, Dear Mr. bornshooter ---That is my Trick, and Tiger Balm with me in my Backpack all the trip. Yes, It work for me past 60 years.( Start at when I was 5 years young, have a tooth ache, My Mom put Tiger Balm at my gum below my bad tooth---Well taste Bad, But the Pain was gone ), That 60 years ago. Yes, Tiger Balm is the product of Hongkong, And Made the Owner of this Company = Billionair..
Have a great night, Sir.
Surapon
 
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Eldar said:
The 85 1.2L II is heavy and slow, but it is just soooo good. Here´s an example (BTW, this is straight out of the camera, raw to jpg through Lightroom);
By the way, there is one fault (that I know of) in this image. What is it?

Dear friend , Mr. Eldar.
Ha, Ha, Ha, " By the way, there is one fault (that I know of) in this image. What is it? "
The Label at the Scarf that let my eyes point to the label first.( Right ?---But not Fault, Just forget to adjust the location of them)
BUT You take the most beautiful Portrait Picture of the Most Beautiful Lady.
Thank you , Sir , to show Us.
Surapon
 
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85 1.2 is the best lens I ever used.
Focus is fast enough for everything I ever needed.
Never failed me.
When shooting pictures of kids you do not have to run around like an idiot after the kids, trying to focus while you are both on the move.
You have to anticipate,...Cartier Bresson style.
I got a young daughter that never sits still,....I use the 85 for 85% of the time.
My favorite lens of all time.
The 135 is also excellent and amazing at less then half the price.

Whoever named the Trinity 35 f1.4, 85 f1.2, 135 f2 was no dumb person.
That is perfection,....The only thing missing 100 f2.8 L Macro.
 
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>Whoever named the Trinity 35 f1.4, 85 f1.2, 135 f2 was no dumb person.

I would replace the 135f2 with the 70-200 2.8L IS II, but otherwise a golden rule, yes ;)

I personally adore my Magic Drainpipe (80-200L 2.8), but just because I think the 70-200 is way overpriced for me (not overall, but to the old 80-200). The newer one is of course better in nearly every aspect (except of the white color, I don't like white lenses, they are too obtrusive), but the colorrendition of the old one is fabulous.

I just have to add, that with a longer focal range like a 80-200 @f2.8 you can sometimes do much more prettier portraits than with the 85 1.2. Mostly you have to stop down to 2.8 for getting an usable DOF... an with a longer lense the background goes even blurrier than with the shorter focal range.
 
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Lamora said:
Easy question. For general people photography (and versatility) 85mm 1.2 L. My favourte lens and probably reason number one for me to own Canon. I actually bought the 5d mark iii to go with this lens.

+ 1 for me too.
Dear Lamora.
Yes, most of PROFESSIONAL wedding/ Portrait Photographers around the world use this Monster Lens 85 F/ 1.2 MK II. Yes, When I carry this Lens, Some of Photographers around me, come to ask and to see the Photos by this Awesome Lens. Yes It Monster Lens and So heavy that might be a part of slow Auto focus too----Hopefully next 2 years, Canon might give us MK III with Super Fast Auto-Focus and F = 1.0 and only $ 10,000 US. Dollars--Ha, Ha, Ha---Just Dreaming.
Here are my 85 mm F= 1.2 MK II Photos with my trustfully Old Canon 1DS MK I. ( some one might ask me why I use 12 years old ( 2002) 1DS Camera---Well, That Super fast AF ( one spot Focus) than my 3 Canon DSLR)
Enjoy.
Surapon
 

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surapon said:
Lamora said:
Easy question. For general people photography (and versatility) 85mm 1.2 L. My favourte lens and probably reason number one for me to own Canon. I actually bought the 5d mark iii to go with this lens.

+ 1 for me too.
Dear Lamora.
Yes, most of PROFESSIONAL wedding/ Portrait Photographers around the world use this Monster Lens 85 F/ 1.2 MK II. Yes, When I carry this Lens, Some of Photographers around me, come to ask and to see the Photos by this Awesome Lens. Yes It Monster Lens and So heavy that might be a part of slow Auto focus too----Hopefully next 2 years, Canon might give us MK III with Super Fast Auto-Focus and F = 1.0 and only $ 10,000 US. Dollars--Ha, Ha, Ha---Just Dreaming.
Here are my 85 mm F= 1.2 MK II Photos with my trustfully Old Canon 1DS MK I. ( some one might ask me why I use 12 years old ( 2002) 1DS Camera---Well, That Super fast AF ( one spot Focus) than my 3 Canon DSLR)
Enjoy.
Surapon

Very good blacks in those images.
 
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CarlTN said:
surapon said:
Lamora said:
Easy question. For general people photography (and versatility) 85mm 1.2 L. My favourte lens and probably reason number one for me to own Canon. I actually bought the 5d mark iii to go with this lens.

+ 1 for me too.
Dear Lamora.
Yes, most of PROFESSIONAL wedding/ Portrait Photographers around the world use this Monster Lens 85 F/ 1.2 MK II. Yes, When I carry this Lens, Some of Photographers around me, come to ask and to see the Photos by this Awesome Lens. Yes It Monster Lens and So heavy that might be a part of slow Auto focus too----Hopefully next 2 years, Canon might give us MK III with Super Fast Auto-Focus and F = 1.0 and only $ 10,000 US. Dollars--Ha, Ha, Ha---Just Dreaming.
Here are my 85 mm F= 1.2 MK II Photos with my trustfully Old Canon 1DS MK I. ( some one might ask me why I use 12 years old ( 2002) 1DS Camera---Well, That Super fast AF ( one spot Focus) than my 3 Canon DSLR)
Enjoy.
Surapon

Very good blacks in those images.

Thank you, Sir, Dear Teacher Mr. CarlTN.
I am very Lucky that, My 1DS still in great shape, and I love her Multi-spots meter, that I can put many spot meter( up to 8 spot meter) in one Photos. That might be This Canon , could create Black = Black, White = White, and Gray = Great gray too.
Have a great Night, Sir.
Surapon
 
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