A 2014 Roadmap Part 1: The 7D Mark II is Coming [CR2]

[Kiboko]

So. Year of the lens and year of the camera.

But will it also be year of the sensor?

Canon has not had one of those years since the 5D2. :

Indeed. What if it ends up being the same sensor (at least in generation/noise/ISO) as the 70D?
As much as I'd love for there to be a 7DII with a new sensor that leap frogs over the Sony/Nikon competition (heck or just equals it, like DR and read noise), I'm starting lean toward something not too different to the 70D, and people will still spend their money on Canon - the last stragglers yet to give up on a 7DII and getting a 5D3 (where they can afford it).
I mean wouldn't any new sensor built on new manufacturing process be in an EOS-1 first?

 

[JonAustin]

Wait, aside from people ranting about DR, what exactly is wrong with the 5Dmk3 that has everyone clamoring for a successor?

I'm clamoring for a successor to the 5D3 to be announced, so that the price of the 5D3 will drop. I'd like to pick up a 2nd 5D3 for around $2K, and retire my 5DC.

 

[mkabi]

Hey OP, whats part 2 and other parts of the 2014 Roadmap?

 

[SpartanII]

For those who will be abandoning your mark i, keep me in mind as a buyer of your camera.

 

[ewg963]

So. Year of the lens and year of the camera.

But will it also be year of the sensor?

Canon has not had one of those years since the 5D2. :

+100000000

 

[unfocused]

I'm clamoring for a successor to the 5D3 to be announced, so that the price of the 5D3 will drop. I'd like to pick up a 2nd 5D3 for around $2K, and retire my 5DC.

Check back around 2018. The 5DIII might drop to around $2K by then.

 

[Chosenbydestiny]

I'd love for them to bring APS-H back, in a smaller body with 10fps it could be like my old 1D mark III without a grip

 

[garyknrd]

At this point! I will believe it when I see it.
This roller coaster ride has ended for me.

 

[JonAustin]

I'm clamoring for a successor to the 5D3 to be announced, so that the price of the 5D3 will drop. I'd like to pick up a 2nd 5D3 for around $2K, and retire my 5DC.

Check back around 2018. The 5DIII might drop to around $2K by then.

Nahh, look at the price history of the 5D2. The 3 will be down to $2K in two years tops.

 

[Moulyneau]

Wait, aside from people ranting about DR, what exactly is wrong with the 5Dmk3 that has everyone clamoring for a successor?

They probably don't have one ... That said and after some roller-coaster rumors
about this 7DII or whatever the name, I am pretty happy to see a cr2 for once.

 

[jrista]

Thankfully, hopefully labeled 7DmII, I love my 7D

lets see a super high ISO which is workable, 15 frames a sec, lots of good stuff..

canon blow the industry away by giving us a new world class sensor tech which will blow all full frame away. Tuen up that tech in the ff and blow us away again...

hey a guy can wish can't he....

Sure. A guy can wish for all the stars in the heavens...and be disappointed. Just to be frank, and quite honest...if people didn't wind their hopes up so much for the absolutely unattainable, they might not be so disappointed when Canon releases something more, down to earth.

It really isn't that hard:

1. 22-24mp APS-C
2. 10fps
3. Better AF system (repurpose 5D III's maybe?)

One might even get particularly hopeful, and wish for something not quite as likely, but still nevertheless more attainable than starstuff:

4. 180nm Cu Lightpipe sensor design (we know Canon has it, they already manufacture with it for smaller sensors)

Now, I might be a little dismayed when I don't get #4, but I'll still be entirely satisfied with 1-3. Might try a little realism sometime...and end up happy and satisfied, rather than devastated when your lofty hopes are all dashed to bits.

 

[jrista]

Wait, aside from people ranting about DR, what exactly is wrong with the 5Dmk3 that has everyone clamoring for a successor?

Indeed. I suspect the 5D III will be around for a very long time...possibly quite a bit longer than the 5D II.

 

[EchoLocation]

I'm clamoring for a successor to the 5D3 to be announced, so that the price of the 5D3 will drop. I'd like to pick up a 2nd 5D3 for around $2K, and retire my 5DC.

Check back around 2018. The 5DIII might drop to around $2K by then.

In 2018 the price of the 5DIII will be closer to $1K than 2K.
The 5DII was announced 9/2008. By Xmas 2011, it was on sale for $2k. I remember being extremely tempted by it but holding off knowing the 5DIII was coming soon. The 5DIII was announced 3/2012. It is now 12/2013 and the price has dropped from$3500 at launch to $2649 today at Amazon. It seems to me that it will be on sale next year around the $2300 mark if not even lower by black friday or xmas 2014
Camera technology is moving fast and prices are falling. With Sony releasing $1700 full frame compact cameras the market will soon be flooded with used full frame cameras for around $1k. Sony, Fuji and many other brands will be releasing more FF cameras even more often in the next few years. The prices of used high quality cameras will drop from the exclusive price points they have been at.
I see the 5DII at about $600 bucks in 2018, and the 5DIII around $1250

 

[Arctic Photo]

Thankfully, hopefully labeled 7DmII, I love my 7D

lets see a super high ISO which is workable, 15 frames a sec, lots of good stuff..

canon blow the industry away by giving us a new world class sensor tech which will blow all full frame away. Tuen up that tech in the ff and blow us away again...

hey a guy can wish can't he....

Sure. A guy can wish for all the stars in the heavens...and be disappointed. Just to be frank, and quite honest...if people didn't wind their hopes up so much for the absolutely unattainable, they might not be so disappointed when Canon releases something more, down to earth.

It really isn't that hard:

1. 22-24mp APS-C
2. 10fps
3. Better AF system (repurpose 5D III's maybe?)

One might even get particularly hopeful, and wish for something not quite as likely, but still nevertheless more attainable than starstuff:

4. 180nm Cu Lightpipe sensor design (we know Canon has it, they already manufacture with it for smaller sensors)

Now, I might be a little dismayed when I don't get #4, but I'll still be entirely satisfied with 1-3. Might try a little realism sometime...and end up happy and satisfied, rather than devastated when your lofty hopes are all dashed to bits.

Doesn't sound too bad to me.

 

[DaveMiko]

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<strong>What’s coming in 2014?



</strong>We’ve already been told that 2014 is going to be the “<a href=\"http://www.canonrumors.com/2013/11/more-mentions-of-2014-being-the-year-of-the-lens-cr1/\" target=\"_blank\">year of the lens</a>” from Canon. Some lenses are getting replaced, while there will be new ones added to the already impressive number of options.</p>
<p>Camera bodies are also going to be front and center. I have received word from a CR3 level source that there will in fact be a 7D Mark II equivalent. The prosumer APS-C camera will live on for at least another generation. The timeframe for an announcement wasn’t given.</p>
<p>More to come once we confirm a few more things.</p>
<p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">c</span>r</strong></p>

I really liked my 7D, so I'm curious to check the upcoming 7D Mark II (or whatever it will be called). I think I would get one when it becomes available.

 

[greger]

Wow! One day it's No 7D ll. Then a day or 2 later it's a Yes there will be a 7D ll, or something new that's mean't to replace
the 7D but will be called something else because Canon wants to change the way they name their cameras. We have a
few more days left in 2013 so keep the rumors coming. I can afford fantasy buying but am inclined to watch with interest
while I sit on my wallet.

 

[GMCPhotographics]

Thankfully, hopefully labeled 7DmII, I love my 7D

lets see a super high ISO which is workable, 15 frames a sec, lots of good stuff..

canon blow the industry away by giving us a new world class sensor tech which will blow all full frame away. Tuen up that tech in the ff and blow us away again...

hey a guy can wish can't he....

Sure. A guy can wish for all the stars in the heavens...and be disappointed. Just to be frank, and quite honest...if people didn't wind their hopes up so much for the absolutely unattainable, they might not be so disappointed when Canon releases something more, down to earth.

It really isn't that hard:

1. 22-24mp APS-C
2. 10fps
3. Better AF system (repurpose 5D III's maybe?)

One might even get particularly hopeful, and wish for something not quite as likely, but still nevertheless more attainable than starstuff:

4. 180nm Cu Lightpipe sensor design (we know Canon has it, they already manufacture with it for smaller sensors)

Now, I might be a little dismayed when I don't get #4, but I'll still be entirely satisfied with 1-3. Might try a little realism sometime...and end up happy and satisfied, rather than devastated when your lofty hopes are all dashed to bits.

While agree about your specs, DR and ISO noise are the two areas Canon really need to tame on the 7DII.
The current Sony sourced sensor is pulling better DR than anything from Canon and their iso noise theshold is somewhat lower at higher resolution...where as the reast of the camera body (1Dx and 5DIII) is exstreamly advanced. It's just the sensor tech is now lagging behind. That said, a carefully exposed image should negate this issue 99% of the time.

 

[tron]

So. Year of the lens and year of the camera.

But will it also be year of the sensor?

Canon has not had one of those years since the 5D2. :

;D ;D ;D

 

[tron]

Quite a rumor: "a timeframe was not given".

 

[Marauder]

Thankfully, hopefully labeled 7DmII, I love my 7D

lets see a super high ISO which is workable, 15 frames a sec, lots of good stuff..

canon blow the industry away by giving us a new world class sensor tech which will blow all full frame away. Tuen up that tech in the ff and blow us away again...

hey a guy can wish can't he....

Sure. A guy can wish for all the stars in the heavens...and be disappointed. Just to be frank, and quite honest...if people didn't wind their hopes up so much for the absolutely unattainable, they might not be so disappointed when Canon releases something more, down to earth.

It really isn't that hard:

1. 22-24mp APS-C
2. 10fps
3. Better AF system (repurpose 5D III's maybe?)

One might even get particularly hopeful, and wish for something not quite as likely, but still nevertheless more attainable than starstuff:

4. 180nm Cu Lightpipe sensor design (we know Canon has it, they already manufacture with it for smaller sensors)

Now, I might be a little dismayed when I don't get #4, but I'll still be entirely satisfied with 1-3. Might try a little realism sometime...and end up happy and satisfied, rather than devastated when your lofty hopes are all dashed to bits.

Yeah, the specs outlined have been rumoured before and are likely, and they are what excites me as a current 7D user. Although the 10fps will be awesome, I do have to say the possibility of 12fps is very intriguing! It'd be nice if they give the ability to adjust the fast and slow burst rates, like they do on the 1 series. You could set your fast burst to 10 or 12fps and your slow to 7 or 8fps and toggle between them depending on the sort of action you expect. Naturally, better high noise performance would also be desireable, and I remember a rumour from some time ago indicating the 7D II sensor was going to be class leading for an APC sensor, so here's hoping. That being said, my main focus (see what I did there?) is on the improved AF, burst-rate and a deeper buffer.