A Brief 2013 Canon Roadmap [CR1]
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LetTheRightLensIn said:
6 fps on 46 MP - Would double digic 5 + be able to achieve that? Perhaps double digic 6 down the line...
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Jesse said:
Small sensors are the future, FF is the past. Expect to see more Pros drop FF and get APS-C/DX and M4/3 in the future.
In 5-7 years (maybe a lot sooner) people will look at FF the same way they do MFD today. Sensor technology gets better every generation -- the next generation m4/3 sensor will be better than a present-day 5D3, count-on-it.
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c.d.embrey said:
yeah apply the same technology jump to FF sensors and the equivalent tech FF will still leave the tiny weeny cute little baby sensors in their wake.
comparing a Bugatti Veyron to a 60's VW Beetle is not really a valid comparision even though its the same motor company that makes the cars
same applies to some future star trek sensor compared to todays sensors
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A proper 50mm lens would be great and a 40+ megapixel cam a great update for my 5dII.
But really needed is an update to their ancient TS-E 45mm. Currently in the 40-60mm range there is no perfectly usable tilt-shift lens with superior IQ available from any company. The Schneider and Hartblei lenses are overpriced and the super-rotator design outdated. The older Arsat 55mm lacks resolution and proper coating as well as all the other older MF tilt-shift lenses. So there is really a huge gap between the great wide angle tilt-shift lenses from Canon and the tele ones from Canon, Hartblei and Schneider. Maybe Samyang will make one...
But really needed is an update to their ancient TS-E 45mm. Currently in the 40-60mm range there is no perfectly usable tilt-shift lens with superior IQ available from any company. The Schneider and Hartblei lenses are overpriced and the super-rotator design outdated. The older Arsat 55mm lacks resolution and proper coating as well as all the other older MF tilt-shift lenses. So there is really a huge gap between the great wide angle tilt-shift lenses from Canon and the tele ones from Canon, Hartblei and Schneider. Maybe Samyang will make one...
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Excitedly waiting for the 70D. Hopefully it's very early 2013 and not till the end of March.
Also don't want the 70D and the 7Dmark ii to merge. If they merge, that means a higher pricepoint for those wanting to upgrade their 60D and the use CF cards, which I don't want (since I own SD cards).
Would want to see:
Faster AF
6fps burst
new sensor for improved low light and IQ
all-i codec for video mode with higher bit rate, actual 1080p (not the upscaling that current Canons do)
better dynamic range in video
headphone jack
less rolling shutter, aliasing, moire
and i know this isn't happening but they need to put 1080p at 60p. All their competitors have this now.
Also don't want the 70D and the 7Dmark ii to merge. If they merge, that means a higher pricepoint for those wanting to upgrade their 60D and the use CF cards, which I don't want (since I own SD cards).
Would want to see:
Faster AF
6fps burst
new sensor for improved low light and IQ
all-i codec for video mode with higher bit rate, actual 1080p (not the upscaling that current Canons do)
better dynamic range in video
headphone jack
less rolling shutter, aliasing, moire
and i know this isn't happening but they need to put 1080p at 60p. All their competitors have this now.
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K-amps said:
Err, you are forgetting that Nikon used to be the 800 pound gorilla in the industry, not Canon.
So, according to your analogy, Nikon is now coming back to raclaim their leading position.
Again, incorrect.
Recently, Canon has been (grossly?) overpricing their products - in what looks like a misguided attempt to position themselves as the Apple of the camera industry (or something like that).
To see the results of this overpricing strategy, though, just look into the last quarterly results from Canon and Nikon.
Last quarter, Canon's DSLR sales were down compared to 2011.
Canon also lowered their outlook for the year ... for a second time this year.
In comparison, Nikon's DSLR sales were up compared to 2011.
Nikon also revised their yearly projections ... upwards.
FYI, Canon projects sales of 8.8 million DSLR units in 2012 vs 7.1 million for Nikon.
If the last quarter becomes a trend, it won't take too many quarters before Nikon passes Canon as the industry leader.
So, expect Canon's overpricing strategy to be abandoned sometime next year - after they have had two-three more quarters like the last one.
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Neuro, problem is that the 28-300 is $3k. The 18-200 and 270 can be had for $500-$600. Big difference for a dad wanting to take decent pictures on vacation. Also, I don't think I'd want to carry the L-series glass around my neck all day at Disney World. I think on technicallity Roger is incorrect, but on intent he is spot on.
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maxxevv said:
There exists a Vivitar 135 F/1.5 from times past, and creates interesting imagery, but it's huge and not very light weight, something that the 135L has that is nice is it's good size, weight and sharpness. If the bokeh is great, creamy and without much CA then that's better than simply going shallower IMO (it can "feel" shallower too). It would be nice to shoot faster for those definite low light shoots, but ISO performance is getting better and better, so what compromises do we mind or don't for going for a faster 135L? It'll be cool though
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c.d.embrey said:
I'm pretty much lost for words after this statement...
Those who shoot full frame do so for a number of reasons. One of the biggest for me is the shallow DOF characteristics and closely following that is high ISO noise performance.
As Neuro said, the laws of physics tell me your theory is fundamentaly flawed.
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Promature said:
Nikon's 28-300 costs around $1k, while its 18-200 is $850 (new prices), so the gap in price is closing. I predict that the performance gulf between these two lenses will also be nullified whenever the next 28-300 comes out, considering how much of both Canon and Nikon's attention is going to developing new full frame lenses. I wouldn't be surprised if Canon developed a similar non-L lens considering the popularity of Nikon's 28-300.
I think the real discrepancy between full frame and crop is the prohibitive size and price of full-frame standard zooms. A third party 17-50 IS can be had for ~$600, and Canon's superb 17-55/2.8 IS is around $1k. The cheapest full-frame standard zoom with comparable performance is Tamron's $1300 24-70 VC, and I'm hesitant to spend that much on a third-party lens that has been shown to have build quality issues (Roger's report) and IQ inconsistencies (the-digital-picture's sample shots).
I'm considering the 24-120, but I've only been able to find mixed reviews; the consensus is that it's not as good as Canon's 24-105 while being more expensive. At $1300, it's the same price as Tamron's 24-70, which then makes me lust after Nikon's 24-70. Any such comparison makes me long for a reasonably priced standard zoom with fewer compromises than any currently available models. Ironically, I'd probably grab the upcoming 24-70/4 IS if I shot Canon considering the sharpness and light weight it promises. I had fun reading the chagrin on this forum the day it was announced while thinking that I'd love to have it here on the dark side ;D
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if you shoot Nikon, and you're lusting after the 24-70 F4 IS, and the $1500 price isn't too much of an issue, why don't you just buy a Nikon 24-70 for 1500ish used? the Nikon 24-70 2.8 is an amazing lens, and I would never trade mine for an F4 of anything, no matter how sharp it claims to be or how much IS it has.weekendshooter said:
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neuroanatomist said:
Not everyone wants/needs paper-thin DOF. Most of my advertising still work is shot at f/5.6 to f/16. Most of my motion work at f/2.8 to f/5.6, f/3.5 is about normal.
Expect to see a paper-thin DOF art filter soon.
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Ben Taylor said:
Time doesn't stand still. Moore's law is still working, after all these years. Compare the sensor of the 1Ds to the sensor of the 4Ti ... which is better ??? The 1Ds only has an ISO range of 100 to 1250, the 4Ti has an ISO range from 100 to 12800. Technology marches on. How good do you think the APS_C/DX and M4/3 sensors will be in five years ???
There are Pro winning awards and getting published in major newspapers and magazine using camera phones. There are amatuers still using wet-plate cameras. Big world out there.
In the near-future I think that many PJs and Editorial and Advertising photographers will be using Smart-Phones to shoot much of their work -- shallow DOF?, there will be an App for that
Stick-around, the future is guaranteed to be different from the past. 
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EchoLocation said:
Ideally I would prefer something a bit smaller as my main lens; I'm used to only having primes and the 24-70 is a behemoth. I agree that it's a phenomenal lens and I will most likely end up getting it used, but the size is going to take some getting used to. I would be willing to sacrifice f/2.8 if the lens added IS and had no optical compromises, as the 24-70/4 IS seems to promise.
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