A Lens Roadmap? [CR1]

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EOBeav said:
So help me understand this. Canon is admitting that the image quality between the 50mm f/1.4 and the 50mm f/1.2 is negligible. To fix that, they're going to nuke one of the most popular lens values on the market, and force the consumer to choose between the cheaper, more inferior f/1.8 and the much more expensive f/1.2. Am I understanding that correctly?

I have the f/1.4, and while it has it's flaws, I'm not giving it up anytime soon. Of course, all of this is assuming that the proposed f/1.8 II IS is a replacement for the f/1.4, and that build/image quality of the new lens still isn't up to that of the f/1.4. I would just hate to see them give up a lens for people like me, who don't have a pro budget but still understand the value of quality glass on their camera.

+1 The 50mm f/1.4 is my most used lens. I'd much rather have the wider aperture than IS. I'm still hoping that a 50mm f/1.4 II is released as "kit lens" with the 5D Mk III, X , or whatever they call it. I also think a 50mm f/1.8 IS goes along with the 24mm and 28mm f/2.8 IS lenses just announced (neither of which are on that "road map"): designed for the "consumers," not the "amateurs." If not, then I'd seriously have to consider the Zeiss 50mm f/1.4. No auto-focus, so I'd have to get the Eg-S screen.

The EF 200mm 2.8 L IS macro does sound interesting.
 
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To judge by forums I read, it seems the 50mm f/1.8 II is a very popular lens (esp on among owners of APS-C cameras) on account of it being a cheap fast lens.

Canon might have decided to thrown in IS to increase sales (& possibly the profit margin), and make even more money on the lens.

I'd much rather see a 50mm f/1.4 with ring based USM. Accessories in the box and IS would be welcome.
 
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Hmmm so the one single non-L prime that needs more replacing than any lens in the entire lineup (yes even more than the 24mm 2.8 did), the 50mm 1.4, is not even on the road map???

I guess Canon likes the continuous profit they get form that model as people send it in for a $100 repair for the AF every year.... and $ for constant focus re-calibrations which never make do succeed in making it not need a different focus adjustment for different target distance....

Pretty sad if this is for year. 50mm 1.4 must be one of the single most popular primes and the Canon version has terrible erratic AF that is prone to breakage and they still refuse to just remake it with a proper ring USM???
 
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neuroanatomist said:
EF 24-70 2.8 L II tagged “final”, “winter 2011″

Ok, but by my reckoning, right now it's winter 2012. So, if the 24-70 II was final in winter 2011, what does that mean for the other lenses? Or does winter start earlier in Japan?

The disaster probably pushed back some of the lenses. My guess would be the farther back the expected release date the less of a delay there will be and perhaps only the ones pegged for 2011 will see delay at all.
 
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EF 100-400 4-5.6 L IS tagged “final”, “autumn 2012″
-> if optical performance is as good as the 70-200/2.8 L IS II I will buy it as soon as I can get it for max. € 2.500

EF-S 45-105 IS status “development”
if it is f/2.0 or at least f/2.8 and optically at least as good as the 17-55 I will also buy it
 
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panopticon said:
- EF-S 55-70 IS “testing”
Errrhhh... 55-70? :o

hah, maybe this is all a joke
as I said in the other thread maybe this needs to be taken with such a large grain of salt that it makes the Dead Sea look fresh ;D

then again it IS Canon ;)
just kidding ;D
(EDIT: although I see someone mentions that Canon has already filed a patent for it, for real, so wow....)
 
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LetTheRightLensIn said:
Hmmm so the one single non-L prime that needs more replacing than any lens in the entire lineup (yes even more than the 24mm 2.8 did), the 50mm 1.4, is not even on the road map???

I guess Canon likes the continuous profit they get form that model as people send it in for a $100 repair for the AF every year.... and $ for constant focus re-calibrations which never make do succeed in making it not need a different focus adjustment for different target distance....

Pretty sad if this is for year. 50mm 1.4 must be one of the single most popular primes and the Canon version has terrible erratic AF that is prone to breakage and they still refuse to just remake it with a proper ring USM???

Just remember that neither the 24mm nor 28mm lenses just announced were on this road map, while the 24-70mm f/2.8L II was. Therefore, just because a 50mm f/1.4 II isn't on this list, that doesn't mean it isn't coming.
 
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Beginning to sound like the winter of our discontent....

If this list has any legitimacy, and it probably doesn't, its origin probably answers questions.

If it's from the development area, winter 2011 may be the end of their involvement. From there, manufacturing process, tooling, etc. have to be set up. Production numbers have to be determined based on market analysis, etc., etc., etc.

It's possible the winter 2011 could simply be a typo. I often type 2011 when I mean to type 2012, especially this early in the year.

What's most probable to me is that it's a feeler from some marketing satan. They could honestly be looking for some customer feedback. Or it could be some low-level satan trying to build an argument for his pet project -- "look at all the comments that were made on the EF 60 L," he might end up saying. "I think they really want that."

Lastly, it could have nothing to do with Canon -- perhaps just a knowledgeable person with an interest in running traffic through this site.


So, there are a few grains of salt to throw on the snows of this winter!
 
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DJL329 said:
LetTheRightLensIn said:
Hmmm so the one single non-L prime that needs more replacing than any lens in the entire lineup (yes even more than the 24mm 2.8 did), the 50mm 1.4, is not even on the road map???

I guess Canon likes the continuous profit they get form that model as people send it in for a $100 repair for the AF every year.... and $ for constant focus re-calibrations which never make do succeed in making it not need a different focus adjustment for different target distance....

Pretty sad if this is for year. 50mm 1.4 must be one of the single most popular primes and the Canon version has terrible erratic AF that is prone to breakage and they still refuse to just remake it with a proper ring USM???

Just remember that neither the 24mm nor 28mm lenses just announced were on this road map, while the 24-70mm f/2.8L II was. Therefore, just because a 50mm f/1.4 II isn't on this list, that doesn't mean it isn't coming.

good point
 
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I hope the 70-400 is a replacement for all of the 70/75/100-300 non-L lenses that are pointless now.

I can understand having cheap EF zooms back when film was the bread winner, but the 55-250 is better than the 75/100-300 lenses and is custom tailored (and low priced) to the crop Rebels. Anyone who has a FF camera would be crazy to put 70/75/100-300 non-L lenses on it, so why is canon still making them?
 
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unfocused said:
One odd thought occurred to me though – could the EF-S list be referring to full-frame equivalents? For example an EF-S lens that is the equivalent of a full frame 20-65mm would make some sense.

No-one in the real world talks about equivalents. When was the last time you heard a Hasselblad owner say that his 80mm lens was equivalent to a Full Frame 50mm ??? ;) ;)
 
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