A New EF 70-200mm is Coming in 2018 [CR3]

[ahsanford]

I think they'll add a builtin 0.7x wide converter to make it work as a 50-120mm f/2 IS USM. Just to mess with ahsanford.

It would violate the pickle jar rule, so it wouldn't wind me up that much.

- A

 

[olympus593]

Stabs in the dark:

• If it's not just a CPL window in the hood like with the 100-400L II (which I think is what we're going to get), I wonder if there's a slicker solution with a dedicated knob/ring that allows turning of the CPL through the hood. Effectively, imagine a very low profile gasketed/silicone 'focus ring' on the hood that would snugly grab the outside of the CPL ring so that you could turn it while the hood is attached. I would love that on my 70-200 f/2.8L IS II, on my 100L Macro, etc.

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  For this all you need to do is buy a rubber hood that screws on the CPL. Very cheap on those chinese sites (DX, etc).

 

[ahsanford]

For this all you need to do is buy a rubber hood that screws on the CPL. Very cheap on those chinese sites (DX, etc).

There's a reason hoods don't rotate and have cutouts in the front, though, aren't there? An entire hood that turns would not optimally shade from flare.

- A

 

[3dit0r]

<p>I’m starting to feel that 2018 is going to be a fun year for Canon, more on that later.</p>

Ah come on, tell us, or at least give us some good hints to start the year. a) I need some fun in my life, and b) I'm changing my whole system back to Canon, so it would be useful to have at least a heads-up of major changes to come... 8)

 

[kaihp]

As a normal 70-200mm lens I don’t know how they could improve version II.
It will be interesting to see what they do.
Maybe lighter or better IS but I can’t imagine better image quality.

It is indeed very sharp but the newest version from Nikon indicates it can be sharper still, especially in mid-frame and edges of the frame. Here's a comparison Roger did at Lens Rentals:

https://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2016/11/nikon-70-200mm-f2-8e-fl-ed-af-s-vr-mtf-tests/

Also consider that the Mk II doesn't resolve excellently on a 5Ds. As I recall an earlier post, the MkII resolves to 21Mpix out of 22Mpix on a 5D3, but to 'just' 36Mpix on the 50Mpix 5Ds.

 

[GMCPhotographics]

I recon it's a new line of DO zooms. Or it's got a funky new light weight plastic element that was patented a few years back. It would be cool to have a sharp 20-700 f2.8 IS that weighs the same as the F4 LIS version....
But you know...probably not...coz apparently...Canon doesn't innovate....ok Gareth...move on....

 

[ahsanford]

Also consider that the Mk II doesn't resolve excellently on a 5Ds. As I recall an earlier post, the MkII resolves to 21Mpix out of 22Mpix on a 5D3, but to 'just' 36Mpix on the 50Mpix 5Ds.

I've made this argument myself a few times, but keep in mind that the Mk II is still the 6th sharpest lens and #1 sharpest zoom that Canon sells according to DXOMark. So if you set some arbitrary bar (using DXO methodology ) that a lens has to be 40 out of 50 sharpness to be 'rated' for the 5DS rigs, only one lens would qualify (the 300 f/2.8L IS II).

So, yes, the Mk III could have better optics, but I see this more about Canon keeping its reputation up (and maintain a high asking price) on a showhorse of a lens.

- A

 

[bholliman]

• If it's not just a CPL window in the hood like with the 100-400L II (which I think is what we're going to get), I wonder if there's a slicker solution with a dedicated knob/ring that allows turning of the CPL through the hood. Effectively, imagine a very low profile gasketed/silicone 'focus ring' on the hood that would snugly grab the outside of the CPL ring so that you could turn it while the hood is attached. I would love that on my 70-200 f/2.8L IS II, on my 100L Macro, etc.
  
  - A

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  I hope a CPL window isn't the "something different". I owned a 100-400 II and found the CPL window ineffective. I usually removed the hood to rotate the CPL and replaced it, just like I do with my other lenses. Your gasketed silicone ring might be promising.

 

[[email protected]]

I recon it's a new line of DO zooms. Or it's got a funky new light weight plastic element that was patented a few years back.

We haven't really seen them beating their chests about the Blue Goo since the release of the 35II. I've been wondering if they've been employing it but opted not to feature it, as "plastic optical elements" doesn't really have an "L" ring to it. Have to say, having owned that 35, that the stuff works great.

 

[horshack]

As a normal 70-200mm lens I don’t know how they could improve version II.
It will be interesting to see what they do.
Maybe lighter or better IS but I can’t imagine better image quality.

It is indeed very sharp but the newest version from Nikon indicates it can be sharper still, especially in mid-frame and edges of the frame. Here's a comparison Roger did at Lens Rentals:

https://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2016/11/nikon-70-200mm-f2-8e-fl-ed-af-s-vr-mtf-tests/

Also consider that the Mk II doesn't resolve excellently on a 5Ds. As I recall an earlier post, the MkII resolves to 21Mpix out of 22Mpix on a 5D3, but to 'just' 36Mpix on the 50Mpix 5Ds.

The Mk II does very well on the 5DS/R. I tested it here:

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1376130

 

[[email protected]]

If CanonRumors dude things that it might not be titled a III, but rather a new name, that would lead one to believe that one of the following is true if it is indeed a 70-200:
- It's changing aperture
- Ditching IS (least likely)
- Going DO
or
- Changing mount

Those are the elements that would disallow a Mark III designation. Pretty radical stuff. I for one would welcome a larger aperture or a DO version, but would be disappointed if this indicated that the new full frame camera was employing a different mount system.

 

[YuengLinger]

Please, not another 24-105 fiasco.

 

[hne]

If CanonRumors dude things that it might not be titled a III, but rather a new name, that would lead one to believe that one of the following is true if it is indeed a 70-200:
- It's changing aperture
- Ditching IS (least likely)
- Going DO
or
- Changing mount

Those are the elements that would disallow a Mark III designation. Pretty radical stuff. I for one would welcome a larger aperture or a DO version, but would be disappointed if this indicated that the new full frame camera was employing a different mount system.

...or macro. Possibly a new focus motor type.
Servo zoom/focus, waterproof (submersible) or wider aperture. There are loads of things you could do that's warrant a different name.

EF 50-200mm f/2L IS USM PowerZoom WaterProof. Only $5000. Any takers?

 

[Don Haines]

70-200 F5.6 EF-M

 

[ahsanford]

Please, not another 24-105 fiasco.

That's an L lens, but it's a second-tier L lens fit for kitting. The Mk III 70-200 is flagship professional instrument.

They will not put out a Mk III that does not clearly outperform its predecessor.

I just think folks need to keep their feet on the ground for how sharp this lens could be. They can't improve it that much in sharpness without taking to some stratospheric cost, so I'm assuming the big improvements will be in other areas -- weight, IS, AF performance with a teleconverter, MFD, stuff with the hood or tripod collar, etc.

Also, with the noted exception of the 24-105 L II, can you name me a recent better-than-ground-floor price point lens that did not deliver a strong improvement? I'm hard pressed to think of one. Other than that lens, Canon's been on a bit of a killing streak the last 5 years or so. Over that time, we've seen the 35L II, the 85 f/1.4L IS, two 16-35 L lenses, etc. -- all very strong instruments.

- A

 

[Yasko]

Blue goo for CA reduction. Doesnt matter if necessary or not 8)

 

[Ryananthony]

Not that I'm in any rush to replace my version II, but I hope they don't move the zoom ring further from the camera body as seen on the Tamron G2 and the new Nikon.

 

[Ditboy]

With a FF mirrorless on the horizon, maybe this will be the first lens made specifically for it. IMHO it would be ridiculous to make a mirrorless body with the same flange distance just for EF lenses. If EF lenses can function really well on a Sony, Canon should be able to make an adaptor that preserves all function and speed. Then start the conversion of their lens line up to mirrorless as current lenses come up for redesign.

 

[Talys]

How about, built-in teleconveter like the 200-400? Either 1.4 or 2.0 would be really sweet.

- Changing mount

To what? Besides, he's confirmed that it's EF.

We’re not calling it an “EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS III” for the time being, as a couple of our sources have hinted that there’s something “different” and “more” about this lens release. No one seems to want to let the cat out of the bag yet.

Something "different": For the first time ever, an L lens will come bundled with a second L lens!
Something "more": And, it will be a 50mm 1.4 IS USM!

 

[Perio]

Never going to happen, but 2.0 aperture would be great.