Adorama is Taking Pre-Orders for EOS 6D

[compupix]

Adorama just sent me a confirmation email for a pre-order of the EOS 6D. The link to the camera does not yet work. But, the description in the invoice says:
ICA6D Canon EOS-6D Digital SLR Camera Body, 20.2 Megapixels, Full Frame CMOS Sensor $2099.00
Fun!
I got wait listed by sending the request to my last Adorama sales agent.

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

When I tried doing that for the 5D Mark III a week before the announcement, my Adorama sales agent just said Wait.

 

[smithy]

Very sneaky! Well played...

 

[jabbott]

That's a funny SKU, "ICA6D"... as in, I see a 6D in your future!

 

[distant.star]

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Was your "agent" driving a Good Humor truck or a Mister Softee truck?

They both come through my neighborhood so I want to know which one to "pre" order my 6D from.

Adorama just sent me a confirmation email for a pre-order of the EOS 6D. The link to the camera does not yet work. But, the description in the invoice says:
ICA6D Canon EOS-6D Digital SLR Camera Body, 20.2 Megapixels, Full Frame CMOS Sensor $2099.00
Fun!
I got wait listed by sending the request to my last Adorama sales agent.

 

[Dylan777]

6-7 months from now the price on 6D will be around $1700 - same as 5D III. DO NOT put your pre-order in yet.

 

[drmikeinpdx]

The sales/marketing manager at Adorama is getting quite aggressive! In spite of this little foul up, I think this bodes well for consumers.

 

[TriGGy]

This is the closest we got to a confirmation of the 6D's existence. Now we only have to see what the camera looks like next

 

[Ew]

I don't remember the last time canon was so tight-lipped about a release so close to the line. There always seemed to be some leak, some photo, some mockup. Will just have to wait and see if anything is actually announced.

 

[shadowsatnight]

This is the closest we got to a confirmation of the 6D's existence. Now we only have to see what the camera looks like next

I guess it's also confirmation of a new sensor - 20.2 isn't anything current, is it?

 

[Marsu42]

6-7 months from now the price on 6D will be around $1700

What makes you say that? If all people waiting for the 5d3 to drop in price now buy a 6d, there will be sufficient demand to keep the price above $2000 for quite some time. Imho it'll only be the usual $100 early adopters fee that will be cut in 1-2 month time after the actual hardware release - whenever this will be, knowing Canon...

 

[Daniel Flather]

6-7 months from now the price on 6D will be around $1700 - same as 5D III. DO NOT put your pre-order in yet.

$1700 EOS 5D3?

 

[Dylan777]

6-7 months from now the price on 6D will be around $1700 - same as 5D III. DO NOT put your pre-order in yet.

$1700 EOS 5D3?

I should said...just like 5d 3 ;D

 

[Phenix205]

It appears that adding an "early adopting fee" (EAF) is part of Caon's selling strategy nowadays. The higher end the product is, the heftier the fee is. For 5D3, the fee is at least $500; for 6D, it's probably $200 given its specs. Then you will see some "huge sales" a few months after release that offer a couple of hundred dollars off beyond the elimination of EAF. The strategy has worked very well for 5D3 because two many people were waiting for and wanting it. Not sure about the expensive 24 2.8 IS and 28 2.8 IS. Having seen what's going on with the 5D3 prices, I doubt 6D will receive as long a preorder list.

 

[wockawocka]

New 20.2 sensor, continuous AF during video.

(I predict the latter).

 

[Marsu42]

The strategy has worked very well for 5D3 because two many people were waiting for and wanting it.

Might be different with a winter release of the 6d, more people on the northern hemisphere could be willing to wait a few month instead of paying the "eaf". Don't know about down under, though :->

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

It appears that adding an "early adopting fee" (EAF) is part of Caon's selling strategy nowadays.

In case you haven't noticed, its been the same way for similar products for maybe the last 100 years.
New Car models start out high and drop after the initial rush, TV sets, Iphones, its the standard way of doing business around the world. any product that tends to have technology that is periodically upgraded in a few years drops in price over time.

 

[brianleighty]

It appears that adding an "early adopting fee" (EAF) is part of Caon's selling strategy nowadays.

In case you haven't noticed, its been the same way for similar products for maybe the last 100 years.
New Car models start out high and drop after the initial rush, TV sets, Iphones, its the standard way of doing business around the world. any product that tends to have technology that is periodically upgraded in a few years drops in price over time.

I totally agree with you on this but in this instance, I think it's more than the usual amount that's normal. A 20% drop in less than six months is quite a bit more than the usual especially for something that won't get replaced again for the next 3 years. I don't really have a problem with it as I would assume this extra can go back into building better products and since I don't buy camera equipment when it first comes out it doesn't affect me so it's all good. I guess my biggest complaint is all the moaning and complaining it causes in forums like this otherwise I'm fine with it.

 

[dtaylor]

The Adorama mixup means we have confirmation of the sensor. My guess is that the other leaked specifications are true as well.

This is a yawner. It's a real bummer to watch Canon fall behind Nikon and Sony in FF bodies. Sony has a patent that is holding Canon back on DR and noise. But that wouldn't be the end of the world if Canon was willing to compete on features and price because IQ is still very high with Canon's sensors. Unfortunately Canon has over priced the 5D3, under-spec'd the 6D, and there isn't a high resolution FF sensor in sight.

In the 1990's and 2000's I really disliked Nikon for crippling low and mid level bodies and overcharging for accessories. I remember when you had to have a high end Nikon body just to get mirror lockup and DoF preview! Key reasons why I went with Canon. Now it looks like Nikon is putting their best forward with each new body, and Canon is purposely crippling bodies. The 6D specs, especially AF, are a joke. Not to mention that Canon prices are creeping up, up, up....

A real disappointment. Wake me next Photokina. Maybe Canon will have something interesting then.

 

[brianleighty]

The Adorama mixup means we have confirmation of the sensor. My guess is that the other leaked specifications are true as well.

This is a yawner. It's a real bummer to watch Canon fall behind Nikon and Sony in FF bodies. Sony has a patent that is holding Canon back on DR and noise. But that wouldn't be the end of the world if Canon was willing to compete on features and price because IQ is still very high with Canon's sensors. Unfortunately Canon has over priced the 5D3, under-spec'd the 6D, and there isn't a high resolution FF sensor in sight.

In the 1990's and 2000's I really disliked Nikon for crippling low and mid level bodies and overcharging for accessories. I remember when you had to have a high end Nikon body just to get mirror lockup and DoF preview! Key reasons why I went with Canon. Now it looks like Nikon is putting their best forward with each new body, and Canon is purposely crippling bodies. The 6D specs, especially AF, are a joke. Not to mention that Canon prices are creeping up, up, up....

A real disappointment. Wake me next Photokina. Maybe Canon will have something interesting then.

I think the difference is Nikon is trying to gain market share where as Canon feels comfortable with maintaining their current market. I see so much complaint about Canon's prices being too high yet it seems like all those people that say they're going to switch stick around for years threatening if XXX doesn't come out soon I'm going to switch, oh and it better be better than the previous but cost the same amount or less than previous. Don't worry about inflation or currency rate changes or the Japanese tsunami or any other factors. There's this notion that electronics should continually get cheaper and cheaper. However this only works in some cases. The chief way this works is the chips that are used get smaller and smaller and hence cheaper and cheaper to make. A full frame sensor can't just be made smaller to save money and get more sensors per wafer. Or that processes can be automated to make the product cheaper to make. Roger's article on the internals of a DSLR is pretty enlightening as to why the camera's are so expensive as there's so many components to it. With these limitations, Canon's tactic has been to try and add in features instead which I think is a fare trade. If you don't want the new features then they're are products already on the market that you could buy for less and will do most of what you need. I love reading about all the new lenses and cameras, but at the end of the day those on here that mention photographers doing amazing photography with cameras and lenses no where near the quality of today are 100% right that a camera is just a tool and it's not an excuse for being unable to get a shot. That rest squarely on the shoulders of the photographer themselves.

Now the chief reason why Canon looks like they're being unfair in their pricing is because Nikon is lower. But as I said earlier, I believe this is because they're goal is still to make a profit but they're willing to make less of one in exchange for picking up market share. And the question really becomes is Nikon cheaper? The 5D mark iii pissed so many people off with it's $3500 price tag and everyone talked about how much better the D800 was but just the other day the 5D mark iii was only $2750 from Adorama. It depends on what your use is but for me, the 5D mark iii is a much better camera for what I do and it's CHEAPER too. Now that doesn't mean I can afford to go out and get one but I'm also not going to complain about it being too expensive either. So people can keep on complaining all they want but somehow I have a feeling that very few will ever leave the Canon system behind and we'll continue the same banter for years and years to come not unlike Roger's Hammer Forum.