Another Confirmation on the Upcoming Canon Lenses & New Flash

[Canon Rumors]

Nokishita has posted <a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/clarification-corrections-on-the-upcoming-new-lenses-from-canon-cr2/">similar information about the upcoming 4 lenses from Canon</a>, along with a couple of added goodies.</p>
<p>Canon will announce the following new products soon. (Google Translated)</p>

<ul>
<li>EF 85mm f/1.4L IS USM</li>
<li>TS-E 135mm f/4L Macro</li>
<li>The official name of the other two but unconfirmed, the focal length and F values 90mm f/2.8L and 50mm /f2.8L becomes. <em>(We’ve pretty much confirmed a TS-E 50mm f/2.8L Macro and a TS-E 90mm f/2.8L Macro.)</em></li>
<li>Lens hood “ET – 83E” “ET – 88” “ES – 84”</li>
<li>Macro twin light “MT-26EX”</li>
</ul>
<p>We do not have any information on pricing or availability of any of these four lenses. Since <a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/canon-ef-85mm-f1-4l-is-usm-on-the-way-cr3/">we’ve known about the 85mm f/1.4L IS for quite some time</a>, we’re hoping availability comes swiftly after the announcement.</p>
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[privatebydesign]

Re: Another Confirmation on the Upcoming Canon Lenses as well as a New Macro Flash

About time with the macro flash, but still no RT in the name? It will be a serious disappointment if it isn't RT enabled.

 

[Drainpipe]

Macro twin light!? This is cool news. My MT-24EX is getting a little long in the tooth. Would be cool if it were wireless, but I won't hold my breath. I wonder if this is just an MT-24EX refresh or an entirely different beast. Will be cool to see. Now I'm going to have to buy that TS-E 135L AND a new flash??? Totally having g.a.s. right now.

 

[Chaitanya]

What new with the macro flash? Unless Canon just adds RT master capability along with Optical master dont see much reason for current twin light users to upgrade. Also where is the upgrade to now discontinued 320ex?

 

[Sabaki]

The new macro Twin lite immediately becomes my most wanted piece of kit.

I'll be watching this space to see what information leaks through

 

[Woody]

Now I'm curious about the 135 f/4L TSE Macro lens.

 

[Loswr]

What new with the macro flash? Unless Canon just adds RT master capability along with Optical master dont see much reason for current twin light users to upgrade.

It's slightly more powerful (higher GN), but I haven't found that to be a limitation with my MT-24. For macro work with slave flashes lighting the background, I haven't run into trouble with optical triggering, so I'm not sure that I would upgrade just for RT.

 

[Chaitanya]

What new with the macro flash? Unless Canon just adds RT master capability along with Optical master dont see much reason for current twin light users to upgrade.

It's slightly more powerful (higher GN), but I haven't found that to be a limitation with my MT-24. For macro work with slave flashes lighting the background, I haven't run into trouble with optical triggering, so I'm not sure that I would upgrade just for RT.

I have had problems with optical triggering(with both Nikon and Canon) while working in foggy environment of western ghats and north-east India. Its very annoying to miss shots of snakes or frogs just because flash misses to fire.

 

[Talys]

Well, the name is in quotes. I'm assuming that's because that is because it's just a guess.

 

[Sabaki]

RT is very much a secondary want for me, I'm more interested to see if the new unit will allow for custom diffusion without needing hot glue or Frankensteining the unit.

That being said, can anyone tell me how and why RT would be a plus for their macro photography please?

 

[privatebydesign]

RT is very much a secondary want for me, I'm more interested to see if the new unit will allow for custom diffusion without needing hot glue or Frankensteining the unit.

That being said, can anyone tell me how and why RT would be a plus for their macro photography please?

You'll wait a long time for a manufacturer diffuser worth using.

As for the RT, that is to give the ability to control the background with a remote flash, or any number of other scenarios involving more than just two tiny low powered heads. If there was no need for remote control why would the current two macro flashes both have optical master capabilities?

 

[Drainpipe]

RT is very much a secondary want for me, I'm more interested to see if the new unit will allow for custom diffusion without needing hot glue or Frankensteining the unit.

That being said, can anyone tell me how and why RT would be a plus for their macro photography please?

You'll wait a long time for a manufacturer diffuser worth using.

As for the RT, that is to give the ability to control the background with a remote flash, or any number of other scenarios involving more than just two tiny low powered heads. If there was no need for remote control why would the current two macro flashes both have optical master capabilities?

This is what I would be most interested in. Granted I would have to get another small RT flash, but to be able to fill instead of bumping ISO would be great.

Also, while we're on the topic of diffusion, I'll second that commercial options suck. This is my most current setup using some Lee gels and a file folder, plus the results ;D

Two others:
https://i.imgur.com/W3nMPYh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/EBDMb4A.jpg
Rabid Wolf Spider:

 

[Loswr]

That being said, can anyone tell me how and why RT would be a plus for their macro photography please?

As for the RT, that is to give the ability to control the background with a remote flash, or any number of other scenarios involving more than just two tiny low powered heads. If there was no need for remote control why would the current two macro flashes both have optical master capabilities?

I assumed the point was why RT over optical master? As I stated, I've never had an issue triggering slave flashes optically from the MT-24 EX, likely because everything is close enough. Chaitanya pointed out issues in foggy conditions, but I've never shot macro in fog or mist. I've had slaves behind diffusers, but those aren't one-way mirrors – the control signals from the MT-24 go through (diffusely) just like the light from the slave flash(es) coming back.

I'd certainly use RT if available (all my other flashes are capable of it), but there's a precedent with Canon releasing the MR-14EX II recently (long after the introduction of RT flashes), and it remains only an optical master.

 

[Drainpipe]

That being said, can anyone tell me how and why RT would be a plus for their macro photography please?

As for the RT, that is to give the ability to control the background with a remote flash, or any number of other scenarios involving more than just two tiny low powered heads. If there was no need for remote control why would the current two macro flashes both have optical master capabilities?

I assumed the point was why RT over optical master? As I stated, I've never had an issue triggering slave flashes optically from the MT-24 EX, likely because everything is close enough. Chaitanya pointed out issues in foggy conditions, but I've never shot macro in fog or mist. I've had slaves behind diffusers, but those aren't one-way mirrors – the control signals from the MT-24 go through (diffusely) just like the light from the slave flash(es) coming back.

I'd certainly use RT if available (all my other flashes are capable of it), but there's a precedent with Canon releasing the MR-14EX II recently (long after the introduction of RT flashes), and it remains only an optical master.

The one situation I can think of is photographing skittish spiders or flies. The preflash can make them jump, whereas an RT would be able to do so without disturbing them. I know it only applies to a small subset of who uses the flash, but it would be nice.

 

[privatebydesign]

That being said, can anyone tell me how and why RT would be a plus for their macro photography please?

As for the RT, that is to give the ability to control the background with a remote flash, or any number of other scenarios involving more than just two tiny low powered heads. If there was no need for remote control why would the current two macro flashes both have optical master capabilities?

I assumed the point was why RT over optical master? As I stated, I've never had an issue triggering slave flashes optically from the MT-24 EX, likely because everything is close enough. Chaitanya pointed out issues in foggy conditions, but I've never shot macro in fog or mist. I've had slaves behind diffusers, but those aren't one-way mirrors – the control signals from the MT-24 go through (diffusely) just like the light from the slave flash(es) coming back.

I'd certainly use RT if available (all my other flashes are capable of it), but there's a precedent with Canon releasing the MR-14EX II recently (long after the introduction of RT flashes), and it remains only an optical master.

Just because the RT system has a lot more options, so possibilities, not just line of sight control over the optical system.

I have found that these kinds of improvements in tech push us to take images we hadn't really thought of before. I do know that if it had it then people would use it in ways not envisioned, one of the nicest things I like about the RT system is the ease that you can use different modes for each Group, so you could have the MT's two heads in different groups and a background setup in another three. Also I used to find optical triggering inconsistent in strong daylight.

 

[Jopa]

This is what I would be most interested in. Granted I would have to get another small RT flash, but to be able to fill instead of bumping ISO would be great.

Also, while we're on the topic of diffusion, I'll second that commercial options suck. This is my most current setup using some Lee gels and a file folder, plus the results ;D

WOW. Both the setup and the result are IMPRESSIVE. I'm not sure if you should be complaining considering your skills

 

[midluk]

A big plus would be the possibility to remove the cables to the flash heads from the main unit to be able to use it just as a RT flash master. And one might want to use a macro flash as a RT slave for something other than actual macro photography (need some small highlights somewhere in the scene?).

I have been thinking about buying a macro flash for some time, but not having RT turned me off until now. I don't want to go back to optical remote when everything else can do RT.

 

[privatebydesign]

A big plus would be the possibility to remove the cables to the flash heads from the main unit to be able to use it just as a RT flash master. And one might want to use a macro flash as a RT slave for something other than actual macro photography (need some small highlights somewhere in the scene?).

I have been thinking about buying a macro flash for some time, but not having RT turned me off until now. I don't want to go back to optical remote when everything else can do RT.

To remove the cables you'd have to put batteries in the heads, not sure that would be popular as the small heads are a nice aspect of the current model.

 

[Drainpipe]

This is what I would be most interested in. Granted I would have to get another small RT flash, but to be able to fill instead of bumping ISO would be great.

Also, while we're on the topic of diffusion, I'll second that commercial options suck. This is my most current setup using some Lee gels and a file folder, plus the results ;D

WOW. Both the setup and the result are IMPRESSIVE. I'm not sure if you should be complaining considering your skills

I appreciate the compliment! I'm always looking to add to my macro skills and equipment. That's why I'm so interested in the new TS-E 135L. I think it will add another tool in my bag to let me get unique shots I wouldn't otherwise get. Maybe I'm too hopeful, but I can't wait to try it out and throw some extension tubes on it.

 

[Chaitanya]

A big plus would be the possibility to remove the cables to the flash heads from the main unit to be able to use it just as a RT flash master. And one might want to use a macro flash as a RT slave for something other than actual macro photography (need some small highlights somewhere in the scene?).

I have been thinking about buying a macro flash for some time, but not having RT turned me off until now. I don't want to go back to optical remote when everything else can do RT.

Nikon offers a twin light kit: R1C1,and I know only one Nikon shooter here who used to own that kit. According to that person the camera gets front heavy as soon as the macro lights are installed also lights use CR123 which are very difficult to procure(in India atleast) and they are expensive. You need 2-3 sets of batteries for a single trip(3-4 day long) and each battery costs 200-600INR(~4-10$) so the costs ramp up pretty quickly. Another thing that was mentioned was that R1C1 kit is not the easiest thing to carry in bag unlike MT-24ex which packs down to fraction of volume of that Nikon kit. So while in theory having wireless macro lights sounds useful in practice compromises made make it a headache for user.