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* "save a bit more and going for the 5D2" is a bit misleading: glass for the 5D2 is, in general, a lot more expensive
* it's not for sure that 650D will have better video quality than the current generation; in particular, if it keeps the same sensor it would probably keep line-skipping too, and therefore aliasing and moire, even if it has digic 5; the reason is that getting rid of line-skipping on the current 18mpix sensor could lead to massive rolling shutter issues: read-out time on this sensor is around 60ms, and line-skipping lowers that to 20ms; digic 5 wouldn't help you here: you need a new sensor with faster read-out time (like the on on the 1Dx)
* it's not for sure that 650D will have better video quality than the current generation; in particular, if it keeps the same sensor it would probably keep line-skipping too, and therefore aliasing and moire, even if it has digic 5; the reason is that getting rid of line-skipping on the current 18mpix sensor could lead to massive rolling shutter issues: read-out time on this sensor is around 60ms, and line-skipping lowers that to 20ms; digic 5 wouldn't help you here: you need a new sensor with faster read-out time (like the on on the 1Dx)
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Love my 60D. My only complaints are movie mode being completely on the other side of the dial (but that's common amongst Canon DSLRs) and the lack of manual lens adjustment. The feel of pushing the buttons is hateful (maybe due to some gaskets for weather sealing?) but the incorporation of the multi-controller into the wheel, the DOF preview button to the other side of the lens mount and the mode dial lock just feel so right once you get accustomed to the change. Very good buffer performance for its class too.
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I am happy owner of 60D. It's not old,,, I did buy 5D II last weekend but now I will be returning it and invest "L" lens. Personally 60D features (i.e Q") layout is better than 5D II and it does NOT feel cheap plastic. I am willing to invest more on "L" lens and wait for 5D III (I hope 2012).
You've already answered your question...... Meaning if you're budget is 60D than you have no other option than 60D (unless you are willing to buy used 5D/7D which cost much higher than 60D new). For me 60D works great and FF will be nice to have but I don't need FF now. Top of that Canon is running rebate until early next yr. so now is great time to buy,,,,
Hope this help~~
You've already answered your question...... Meaning if you're budget is 60D than you have no other option than 60D (unless you are willing to buy used 5D/7D which cost much higher than 60D new). For me 60D works great and FF will be nice to have but I don't need FF now. Top of that Canon is running rebate until early next yr. so now is great time to buy,,,,
Hope this help~~
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Having justgonethrough this myself (upgraded from a 450D)... and ended up with a 7D that I personally feel isn't incredible (see my "earthshattering" thread) but has a ton of awesome features... My advice is to:
WAIT!
If your current camera isn't broken... I would hang on to it for a little while longer. The 7D2, 5DIII, or 650D will probably be announced in January / February... and then you will have more information to make a more informed decision.
If I could do it all over again I would have continued waiting....
WAIT!
If your current camera isn't broken... I would hang on to it for a little while longer. The 7D2, 5DIII, or 650D will probably be announced in January / February... and then you will have more information to make a more informed decision.
If I could do it all over again I would have continued waiting....
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its so unfair they wont even allow you to register to be able to buy the refurb units unless you are in the USA 
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friedmud said:handsomerob said:Not sure about the 5DIII but 7D2 is very unlikely in Jan/Feb. Around Photokina would be a more realistic expectation
Good point. Just pointing out that new stuff is definitely expected in the coming year!
Yes, true! 2012 will be a very interesting year.
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To anybody with a 60D with a "peeling" grip....
This is covered by the Canon Warranty. I discovered that the grips on mine started to peel as well. I did a little research and found that this was present in both the 7D and the 60D. It seems that whatever batch of glue they used on the 7D and 60D, at least for anybody who bought it back in 2010, had minor issues with the grips.
Assuming yours is still covered under warranty, send it in to get the grip replaced.
I am fortunate enough to have a Canon Factory Service Center nearby so I simply took it there to have it replaced. Took them less than 10 minutes to replace it.
This is covered by the Canon Warranty. I discovered that the grips on mine started to peel as well. I did a little research and found that this was present in both the 7D and the 60D. It seems that whatever batch of glue they used on the 7D and 60D, at least for anybody who bought it back in 2010, had minor issues with the grips.
Assuming yours is still covered under warranty, send it in to get the grip replaced.
I am fortunate enough to have a Canon Factory Service Center nearby so I simply took it there to have it replaced. Took them less than 10 minutes to replace it.
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I've got the 60D and really love it. I don't think the micro adjust is a deal breaker. I've rented lens from lens rental (70-200 F4 IS, ef-s 15-85 IS, and the ef-s 17-55 is). The photos are very sharp and even when I crop and enlarge, the images are sharp. I bought mine around November 2010 and plan to keep it until it quits working. It was the best camera I could afford at the time and the main reason I bought it was because it got good reviews. Video is not a big deal, as I shoot photos and not video. Love the tilt screen, as it has really helped me out a few times in a crowd and shooting above people.
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uniquebythemillions said:
Old??? Truthfully, NONE of the DSLR's that Canon has made are "old". I have a friend who still faithfully uses his Rebel (Rebel classic, 6.3mp) everyday and is still amazed at the images it takes. 6mp? 8mp? 18? 21? Does it really matter how many mp your sensor is or when your particular body was released? If the camera does what you ask of it and you are pleased with the results, is it "old"? Hmmm.... :-\
Lots of great Canon products out there. Find the one that suits your needs/budget the best and go for it!
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wickidwombat said:
Although that is to some extent true, if you want to shoot at wider apertures in better light or doing sports, you might want to consider that the 550d and 600d only goes down to 1/4000s whilst the 60d and up is 1/8000s... And as everybody has said, the lack of micro-adjust is ridicolous. What's the point in having a razor sharp lens and 18mp, when the picture NEVER is in focus?
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I never had any problems with the 60D and i use it on a daily basis as a hobbyist for more than a year now. I also used a couple of Canon, L, Sigma and old manual lenses: No problems. The 1/8000 is great and the cooperation with the Magic Lantern is a dream. I would buy it again today.
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I use my 60D everyday at work and home. So far, this camera has NOT YET disappointed me. I like the swivel screen very much. Even though the body is plastic, but it does feel quite solid.
I have 28mm f1.8 & 50mm f1.4 prime, these lenses are great for video on 60d.
I would keep my 60d until I'm ready for FF (5D II or 5D III)
I have 28mm f1.8 & 50mm f1.4 prime, these lenses are great for video on 60d.
I would keep my 60d until I'm ready for FF (5D II or 5D III)
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I had one for a short while and sent it back due to lack of MA and bought a 50D instead since it has MA. That said, I liked it other than the fact it had front focus issues and I didn't want to send it in to get fixed. So I'd say it's a nice camera/price point if you don't mind the *possibility* you'll need to send it back to Canon with your lens to get calibrated. Plus you might have to send it to your third party lens maker with that lens to get the lens calibrated for your body. Nice bang for the buck at today's prices IMO.
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