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I'm not sure about the 650D/T4i -it may appear soon, but my guess is that Canon feel that they really need a new sensor to distinguish it from its two predecessors. Without a new sensor, they'd have to upgrade key specifications to differentiate the 650D, such as the autofocus system (e.g. 9 pt all cross type), viewfinder (pentaprism), shooting speed (6 fps) or control interface (second command dial). I doubt that one of these features on it's own would tempt people to pay extra over the 600D price and too many would mean it steps on the XXD line's toes. Therefore, I think that the 650D will need a new sensor to be a viable proposition. I don't see Canon launching its new APS-C sensor on a "Rebel" body, so I think that anyone waiting for this replacement will have to wait for a 7D MkII announcement (autumn?).
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dichiaras said:Very disappointed! Yes, there was a CR2 about t4i being released on either February 28 or today, but nothing.
I would like to upgrade from my 1100D (my first DSLR), but unless I go fullframe, the 550D-600D (basically the same camera except for the swiveling screen), 60D, 7D all have the same sensor, which gives IQ almost identical to the 1100D. So unless a new crop sensor shows up, I'm sticking with my bare bone DSLR.
Same here.
Don't want to pay much unless it's an FF body. Once upon a time I compared 500D and 50D, and 500D had less banding noise, so xxxD are not that bad.
At canon.ru they have removed 500D from site today, so I think the time for 650D comes closer)
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crasher7 said:
While the auto focus points may not be the only advantage they're definitely the biggest advantage over the 60 d.
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Canon would not announce the T4i at the same time as the 5D MK III. It would just get lost in the noise. It will be announced in such a manner that it can get some headlines, so don't worry. Don't expect a big upgrade either, just a few improvements and a higher price.
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It would seem a bit odd to release a 3rd rebel with the same sensor, no?
Yes, as much as I don't like it, I am guessing that they might update the 7D and one or more of the X0D bodies first with a new sensor, then have the new sensor trickle down to the rebel line.
Yes, as much as I don't like it, I am guessing that they might update the 7D and one or more of the X0D bodies first with a new sensor, then have the new sensor trickle down to the rebel line.
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What I would be excited about in a 650D...apart from the touchscreen capability that has already been leaked...would be the Dig!c5 and if it has the ability to do the lens correction that the 5d3 has. Chromatic abberation, distortion, as well as the 600D's vignetting ("peripheral illumination") correction. And could do so in video mode too. That would make all my EF-S lenses worth more just by buying the body.
And since the Micro-4/3rds cameras have this functionality, Canon would want to add it to stay relevant. I don't know the details of how it works, but if it could be just stored as a starting point when editing RAW stills, so much the better.
Also streaming full-res video out the mini HDMI port would be terrific. The 600D had 3x-10x digital zoom (and the 3X form eliminated the line-skipping moire problem!) on the video, which broke new ground. So 1080p at 60fps? Sure why not that too...and for the skateboard shooter the smaller body would be exactly what they'd want.
There's no reason why the 650D couldn't lead the line in some ways technologically, even if that makes the more expensive bodies seem less-featured. Because the Rebel line is competing against Sony and Panasonic and Samsung, who have bells and whistles on their side. Canon has glass.
And since the Micro-4/3rds cameras have this functionality, Canon would want to add it to stay relevant. I don't know the details of how it works, but if it could be just stored as a starting point when editing RAW stills, so much the better.
Also streaming full-res video out the mini HDMI port would be terrific. The 600D had 3x-10x digital zoom (and the 3X form eliminated the line-skipping moire problem!) on the video, which broke new ground. So 1080p at 60fps? Sure why not that too...and for the skateboard shooter the smaller body would be exactly what they'd want.
There's no reason why the 650D couldn't lead the line in some ways technologically, even if that makes the more expensive bodies seem less-featured. Because the Rebel line is competing against Sony and Panasonic and Samsung, who have bells and whistles on their side. Canon has glass.
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Prediction:
1. Digic 5 (better iso)
2. 4 fps
3. Same 18 MP sensor
4. a little bit better AF
5. still 1080p/24 video but with AF, no touch screen
6. $899 body , $999 with kit lens ( same as sony a65)
7. June 2012 release date
Performance cannot be as good as current 60D/7D until those are refreshed.
1. Digic 5 (better iso)
2. 4 fps
3. Same 18 MP sensor
4. a little bit better AF
5. still 1080p/24 video but with AF, no touch screen
6. $899 body , $999 with kit lens ( same as sony a65)
7. June 2012 release date
Performance cannot be as good as current 60D/7D until those are refreshed.
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dichiaras said:
I wasn't under the impression that the D5100 was hugely better than the t3i. This line in the dpreview review made me think that sticking with Canon might be better for me:
Since I sold my Rebel XTi and am going to buy a new dslr, I'd welcome advice on the t3i/t4i vs. D5100, anyone have info to share?
Thanks!
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