At what price point will you consider buying the Canon 6D?

[ablearcher]

IMO, $2100-2000 is a fair price for entry level FF body, so pricing is not an issue for me - it is acceptable as announced. My concern is IQ and AF performance. I already know that the shutter is crap and the sync speed is poor. The GPS and WiFi is fine, but frankly I could care less. So if IQ is out of this world and AF is reliable, I might consider getting it regardless of the price (MSRP or lower). If IQ and AF are crap (and we already know about the rest) or not on par with competition, then I'm not going to buy this cam even if it will be a thousand bucks new. Its not like there is nothing to consider on today's market. The way Canon is building its product line these days, i am seriously considering buying a second non-Canon system.

All these morons needed to do was to place a modern AF system into MKII. Instead they decided to produce a crippled Rebel with FF sensor and some built in gadgets which have nothing to do with IQ. What was Canon thinking?

 

[matukas]

Most times when I shoot with my camera, I'm using center point only (sometimes expanded). But it's high-end FF model.
With Canon I started with EOS 50 (film) camera and stopped with it in around 2002. It has 3 AF points. After that have using point&shoot weatherproof Olympus and Panasonic. Recently started again with EOS, but this time digital FF, and don't care is it 9, 11, 19, 45 or 63 AF points. If it's more than 3, it's ok

 

[Bosman]

IMO, $2100-2000 is a fair price for entry level FF body, so pricing is not an issue for me - it is acceptable as announced. My concern is IQ and AF performance. I already know that the shutter is crap and the sync speed is poor. The GPS and WiFi is fine, but frankly I could care less. So if IQ is out of this world and AF is reliable, I might consider getting it regardless of the price (MSRP or lower). If IQ and AF are crap (and we already know about the rest) or not on par with competition, then I'm not going to buy this cam even if it will be a thousand bucks new. Its not like there is nothing to consider on today's market. The way Canon is building its product line these days, i am seriously considering buying a second non-Canon system.

All these morons needed to do was to place a modern AF system into MKII. Instead they decided to produce a crippled Rebel with FF sensor and some built in gadgets which have nothing to do with IQ. What was Canon thinking?

We already know the af system is a joke, center point is the only cross focus point. My original 5d while loving the image quality the focus system made me want ot pull my hair out. At least he 7d has all cross points.

 

[kapanak]

I think DPReview puts it very harshly, but elegantly.

http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canon-eos-6d/6

"Overall, though, it's difficult to shake the feeling that the EOS 6D simply lacks the 'wow' factor of its main rival. Whereas Nikon seems to have taken the approach of taking away as little as possible from D800 when creating the D600, Canon appears almost to have gone the other way, removing as much as it thinks it can get away with at the price. The result is the kind of conservative, slightly unimaginative design that's become the company's hallmark. It's still bound to be a very good camera, of course; just perhaps not quite as good as it could be."

I owned a 5DII four nearly four years before I sold it and two of my Canon lenses this past spring.
Why in the world would I spend as much as I sold my 5DII (with batteries and grip and such) on the Canon 6D, when the Canon 6D is simply a rehashed 5DII with different body design, newer processor and even worse AF. Not to mention cheap construction. Seriously, at least the centre AF on the 5DII was immensely and reassuringly accurate and fast. >_>

 

[ishdakuteb]

just wait and see the real test of all canon 6d's focus points in low light situations. however, i expect this camera, canon 6d, will offer less noise comparing to 5d mark III based on its pixel size 6.54 μm vs 6.25 μm, respectively. about missing joint-stick... yes i know it is a big loss to people who love to use their joint-stick to select focus (i am one of them). but i think canon 6d offer the inside wheel which can be used as a replacement to joint stick right? (i am not sure on this part since i do not own a canon 60d).

i am just sitting here and wait for the real test on canon 6d...

 

[RLPhoto]

I won't ever be buying a 6D due to is ludicrous Ergos taken from the 60D. I'd rather get a 5D2.

 

[Brymills]

With the price reductions on the 5D3 there really is little reason to buy a 6D, unless you need the built in WiFi and GPS features.

The price reduction from $3499 to $3449? MSRP is only down by $50 from launch date. All the other 'deal's are from online stores looking to move product at a faster rate - not from canon. be savy, search for the deals, there is always some entity out there ready to make a deal. But don't deal yourself into the misinformation stream, the camera is still essentially the same cost it was at launch.

There's no such thing as MSRP in the UK, and it's down 500 pounds - 2999 at launch to 2469 in the cheapest store, and these are reputable dealers.

http://camerapricebuster.com/Canon_EOS_5D_Mark_III_Body_pc.html

 

[Chuck Alaimo]

I think DPReview puts it very harshly, but elegantly.

http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canon-eos-6d/6

"Overall, though, it's difficult to shake the feeling that the EOS 6D simply lacks the 'wow' factor of its main rival. Whereas Nikon seems to have taken the approach of taking away as little as possible from D800 when creating the D600, Canon appears almost to have gone the other way, removing as much as it thinks it can get away with at the price. The result is the kind of conservative, slightly unimaginative design that's become the company's hallmark. It's still bound to be a very good camera, of course; just perhaps not quite as good as it could be."

I owned a 5DII four nearly four years before I sold it and two of my Canon lenses this past spring.
Why in the world would I spend as much as I sold my 5DII (with batteries and grip and such) on the Canon 6D, when the Canon 6D is simply a rehashed 5DII with different body design, newer processor and even worse AF. Not to mention cheap construction. Seriously, at least the centre AF on the 5DII was immensely and reassuringly accurate and fast. >_>

It's funny, because my first take on the d600 was, meh, if i already shot nikon its tempting, but its kind of just a scaled down d800 and the price isn't that much lower....if i were in the nikon system I can't see why this would stop me from snagging a d800.

Maybe canon is getting paid by nikon to take a fall this round...lol... because the d600 all of a sudden looks awesome compared to the 6d. LOL. Honestly though, neither are WOW. Both are decent evolutionary upgrades and in some sense, downgrades.

 

[TrumpetPower!]

I've got a 5DIII. What would I want with a 6D?

If it were throw-away cheap, a few hundred dollars, such that I could toss one in a bag as a backup and not care much what happened to it, sure, maybe. Otherwise...well, there's no more reason for me to buy a 6D than there would to buy a Rebel.

Doesn't mean I think it's a bad camera. It seems a reasonable camera for the price. Hardly exciting, but I'm sure lots of people will put it to excellent use and get great value from it.

Cheers,

b&

 

[EOBeav]

I've got a 5DIII. What would I want with a 6D?

I've got a 5DmkII and I don't want this thing. I guarantee you sacrifices have been made in build quality to offer this thing at ~$2kUSD.

Canon, why oh why?

 

[aznable]

not interested on this kind of camera as i wasnt interested on 5d mk ii...5d mkiii is another matter but i prefere a faster machine at affordable price like an old 1dmk3/4

 

[distant.star]

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I will get one when they pay me $500 to accept it -- with free shipping!

Oh, and my price goes up $10 a day until they actually ship this abortion.

 

[AvTvM]

USD 999,- ... less than one grand for the FF Rebel.
Definitely not worth more a single penny.

Same weak camera as the original digital Rebel/300D when it came out eons ago as first DSLR for less than 1 grand. ;D

 

[aznable]

USD 999,- ... less than one grand for the FF Rebel.
Definitely not worth more a single penny.

Same weak camera as the original digital Rebel/300D when it came out eons ago as first DSLR for less than 1 grand. ;D

have you boughtthe $1500 nikon FF camera?

ahhh....no it tourned out to be more costly than a d700 :'(

 

[CharlieB]

I guarantee you sacrifices have been made in build quality to offer this thing at ~$2kUSD.

Your "guarantee" is baseless, and unfounded in any sense of reality.

Quality sacrificed. Perhaps, but more likely not.

You have been duped, like many of the masses of people, to believe that the cost of production is proportional to the selling price (or MSRP, MAP price, whatever). Nothing can be further from the truth. Often, there is ZERO difference in cost, for the more expensive item. Yup.

I've said this a few times here already... so study up on manufacturing economics, what determines the price in the marketplace, and the cost of production. You will find some interesting things.

Hint: Things are worth what people are willing to spend for them. Things all cost as little as possible to make.

End of hints - have a fun study.

 

[Aglet]

IF, and only IF, it can provide low noise low ISO performance significantly better than 5D2 or 5D3, and hopefully at least approach the low ISO performance of a $500 Nikon cropper like the D5100, will I consider buying this thing.

DxoMark better show it to have great DR and low noise, which I then follow with my own read noise push test to check for pattern noise issues.

Until then the devil-I-know 5D2 remains in my kit.
I don't need any of the other flimsy features in it, even the AF is likely plenty adequate for how I want to use it.
And if it does that well enough then I'll still only want to pay no more than about $1700 for it.

 

[scrup]

I have a 40d and I guess Canon created this camera for people like me as a cheaper upgrade path to FF.

If the AF works better in real life than my 40d i would buy it straight away for $2500 for the kit.

 

[ishdakuteb]

my question is: if canon lows down 5d mark II price at $1900 and 6d at $2099, which one will you buy? and why people wants full frame? imo, mainly reason is low noise at high iso...

 

[RichM]

I purchased a 5d2 about a year ago, knowing the 5d3 was around the corner. I don't regret my decision. It is a fantastic still/portrait/landscape camera, with very good high ISO performance. My only (minor) complaint is the AF, which I know has been improved. For me, it is not worth moving from the 5d2 to a 6d now.

 

[dr croubie]

You forgot the option for $1200-1400.

With those lack of features, no matter how good the sensor is, my 7D will get better photos at the end of the day, so I wouldn't be paying more than a used 5D2 price, which are currently $1200-1500.