B&H Photo: Hands-On With the EOS-1D X Mark II

InterMurph said:
OddieCZ said:
How large a part of the sensor is being used for 4K recording? Didn't quite get that.
The sensor is 5472 x 3648 pixels. The 4K video uses a crop of 4096 x 2160 pixels. So it ignores 688 pixels on each side, and 744 pixels on the top and bottom.

In short: 4K video is cropped.

Edit: More details available at http://www.eoshd.com/2016/02/all-is-revealed-canon-1d-x-mark-ii-video-faq/

Maybe magic lantern can hack it to take full sensor video. 4 1/2 K?
 
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InterMurph said:
OddieCZ said:
How large a part of the sensor is being used for 4K recording? Didn't quite get that.
The sensor is 5472 x 3648 pixels. The 4K video uses a crop of 4096 x 2160 pixels. So it ignores 688 pixels on each side, and 744 pixels on the top and bottom.

In short: 4K video is cropped.

Edit: More details available at http://www.eoshd.com/2016/02/all-is-revealed-canon-1d-x-mark-ii-video-faq/

Thanks)
 
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Perio said:
ISO 10,000 looks very nice to me

http://www.andyrouse.co.uk/index.php?b=1&currentpage=1

Saw his blog earlier. Yes, very impressive. However, I still want to see some RAW image files. Not compressed jpgs. Granted I really appreciate him sharing those, they just aren't going to really make me giddy til I see RAW data out the camera with this new sensor. But, it looks extremely promising.
 
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One thing I will say that gave me pause was the Canon pdf brochure on the Canon USA website suggests that only Full HD will be able to output from HDMI, not 4K. Now it may have been a bad edit, but here:

Uncompressed HDMI
output to external recorders is also possible at
4:2:2 Full HD resolution. 4K videos can be
recorded to CFast™ cards as Motion JPEG files,
while Full HD can be recorded as MOV or
MP4 files


That would be a bit disconcerting, but that would also be the "cripple" to protect the C300II
 
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PureClassA said:
One thing I will say that gave me pause was the Canon pdf brochure on the Canon USA website suggests that only Full HD will be able to output from HDMI, not 4K. Now it may have been a bad edit, but here:

Uncompressed HDMI
output to external recorders is also possible at
4:2:2 Full HD resolution. 4K videos can be
recorded to CFast™ cards as Motion JPEG files,
while Full HD can be recorded as MOV or
MP4 files


That would be a bit disconcerting, but that would also be the "cripple" to protect the C300II

Yes C300 will be "protected"

29:59 is a limit on all files (4k will fill a card super fast)

ML will NEVER write a firmware for these creatures (1DX or the MK II)

and .... What the heck is EXPOSURE simulation ....

http://cpn.canon-europe.com/content/education/tipsandtricks/3142.do


and thank you Canon rumors and all you great folk for deep and well thought answers and some nice humor!
 
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I think that I will go with the Nikon D5 for now (try it out before committing the full $6.5K or even $6K on the 1Dx Mark II). Why?

Dual XQD or dual CF slots, 153 autofocus points w/99 cross-type, and over 3 million ISO (which means a higher native ISO of 102,000 - so in this case, double that of the 1Dx MII which is at 51,000) with the same resolution sensor (Nikon slightly larger at 20.8 vs 20.2 ::)). Cleaner base ISOs across the board AND -4EV across the board. Additionally, Nikon does not play with the dynamic range. They already have it. ~4,000 clicks per battery. A great feature that is also present in the D810 battery. 200 continuous RAW files per burst at 14bit uncompressed (vs. Canon's 170 continuous burst) even though that Canon has an extra 2fps (not a big deal for me here).

I care about the image quality and telling a visual story with better capabilities, especially in darker environments with less noise.

* Regarding the metering, the D5 has a 180K pixel RGB metering system and Advanced Scene Recognition System with group AF (finally). Honestly, I do not know how this will compare to the 1Dx Mark II's 360K pixel RGB metering system. I already have experienced the wonderful iTR AF system of Canon on the 7D MII.
Nikon says that it drastically improved performance for sports and movement. Let's try the camera out first and find out. If it does not meet my expectations, then I will return it and adopt the 1Dx Mark II.

**Overall, I don't care about the video. There are already other professional tools that do wide DR / custom cine profiles, and 4:2:2 or higher for a proper professional looking output. I don't want the typical DSLR video (rolling shutter, 8bit compressed image with no alteration on controlling DR on the shadows or blacks).
Different job, different tool.
 
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Regarding the purchase price of the package being offered by Amazon...to the best of my knowledge B&H doesn't charge sales tax for out of state purchases. That nets out the savings by Amazon...who BTW I purchase from often and like very much.
 
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4K in JPGs? How huge will the files be? Or am I missing something here (I am no pro in videographie)?
Else, what with post-processing? JPGs have offer only limited ways of editing...
 
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Click said:
I'm worry about the shutter noise too. Is it the same as the MKI?
Very few of the previews talk about the silent mode and how noisy/silent it is. Some have commented that it is more silent than MkI, but more noisy than the 5DS/R. If it was really good, I would expect them to be more explicit, so my hopes are not very high ...
 
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beardsquad said:
As per specs, the 4K recording limit is 29:59. I think they're just saying that due to the high bitrate (4K60, 800 Mbps). Just speculating because it would take 179.9GB of space to record a half hour of 4K@60 footage so maybe they're assuming most people wont buy a 256GB CFast card and would hence run out of space before hitting 29:59.

ukmdb said:
Did he just say your not limited to 29min 59sec recording and now only limited to the size of the cards?
We finally getting rid of that 30min limit. :)

PureClassA said:
One thing I will say that gave me pause was the Canon pdf brochure on the Canon USA website suggests that only Full HD will be able to output from HDMI, not 4K. Now it may have been a bad edit, but here:

Uncompressed HDMI
output to external recorders is also possible at
4:2:2 Full HD resolution. 4K videos can be
recorded to CFast™ cards as Motion JPEG files,
while Full HD can be recorded as MOV or
MP4 files


That would be a bit disconcerting, but that would also be the "cripple" to protect the C300II

hubie said:
4K in JPGs? How huge will the files be? Or am I missing something here (I am no pro in videographie)?
Else, what with post-processing? JPGs have offer only limited ways of editing...


All the video specific. Q&A are here: http://www.eoshd.com/2016/02/all-is-revealed-canon-1d-x-mark-ii-video-faq/
 
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