Bad Photography Rant
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LewisShermer said:
This is... fcuk I can't even find any words, this is practically ONLY point and shoot without any feel for the moment, how people should look on pictures or technical settings of the camera which honestly doesn't even look like its more than a 1000D with kit lens. And that horror for prices like these. No wonder there is no more reference, this is just shameful. Just sayin'.
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papa-razzi said:
You don't need a certification, you show your photos, your portfolio. I'm sure Ansel Adams had to whip out a few images back in the day. Heck... Leonardo Da Vinci probably had to "show" his stuff before getting the sisteen... or however it is spelled.
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cayenne said:
True... and proficiency with gear doesn't mean you have a good eye to know what MUST be shot.
I was watching a program about the national geographic photographers and how they just knew when they had to take a shot... and some of the photos are some of the most memorable in recent history. Also... those certifications are just a way for some companies to make money. They are rarely non-profit.
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florianbieler.de said:
Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public.
H. L. Mencken
I think the site is in Britain... but still... there are some tacky people out there who just don't know "what good is" and consequently keep these people in business.
At least the images are different... god awful, but different.
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jdramirez said:
Sixtine Chapel was Michaelangelo no da Vinci. Just sayin'
You point is fully valid. If I buy a car I do a test drive. It's not the car I'm gonna get but I test the general quality level.
Consummers should always look at references before buying. If they agreed after seeing such a book then it's pure market theory in action. If the book is falsified (work from others) then that's pure fraud and this is actionnable. If they don't ask to look at a portfolio then they can blame themsleves.
Sounds harsh but nannying consumers has to stop somewhere.
PS: for those who speak about certification, there's something like that over here in China. As there can't be purely objective criterions for photography as an art, this is just pure nepotism and/or bribery.
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jdramirez said:
There's a whole lot more on the facebook page, I wonder where he or she got "learned" how to do colorkeys, they make no sense at all, i mean the people black and white and the surroundings in color? It's a shame for the whole professional level of photography.
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jdramirez said:Grumbaki said:
Yeah... Mike had a better portfolio...
Funny thing.... Mike's "portfolio" was in sculpture, not painting. He was essentially a sculptor, not a painter. He mightily resisted doing the Sistine work -- was finally forced to do it for political expediency. And like all of us, he learned a lot!
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Any photographer fretting about the ocean of bad stuff on the web and locally has too much time on his/her hands.
Do the best restaurants in town pull their hair out because convenience stores sell stale pre-packaged sandwiches?
Photography in the USA is now the #1 home based business. Welcome to the new normal.
Do the best restaurants in town pull their hair out because convenience stores sell stale pre-packaged sandwiches?
Photography in the USA is now the #1 home based business. Welcome to the new normal.
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LewisShermer said:
Wow. Those are not photos I would expect from a professional photographer. Maybe I've been looking at the outstanding work of people on this forum for too long and I'm being too unrealistic about the ability of photographers out there. If I'm hiring a photographer, I expect to get work better than what an amateur like me could do.
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dryanparker
Art photographer based in Miami.
All of the substandard work out there should make those who clearly win on expertise, vision and ability thrilled to know that winning new business should be fish in a barrel.
The problem is you're then tasked with convincing people with no recognition of expertise, vision or ability that it's worth the added cost.
The reality is, as others have alluded to, that there is a market for this stuff. Sad to say, but many people shop on price alone, and in the end, they might actually be happy with the results. They simply don't know the difference, and they probably don't care.
I'd recommend finding a better market!
The problem is you're then tasked with convincing people with no recognition of expertise, vision or ability that it's worth the added cost.
The reality is, as others have alluded to, that there is a market for this stuff. Sad to say, but many people shop on price alone, and in the end, they might actually be happy with the results. They simply don't know the difference, and they probably don't care.
I'd recommend finding a better market!
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There are many fly by night photographers and even if they went to "school", it doesn't guarantee that they are any good. I'm self taught, started shooting film 20 yrs ago as a teenager and it took a lot of trial and error. i don't profess to be the best however I've learned that creativity, thinking outside the box and the knowledge of your equipment trump all. My ex girlfriend's cousin got TERRIBLE photo's of her wedding, they were using old Rebels with garbage lenses and shooting in preset mode. My business partner's BFF is precisely one these, to the point where we don't allow her to use our studio anymore because we don't want her bad photography associated with us. As far as pricing goes, i have a "friends and family" rate that I use with complicit understanding that they are not to disclose it. It's been successful and has brought us a lot of business at full rate. This economy has turned a lot of hobbyists into "professionals" and it has had negative effects. :-\
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YuengLinger said:
Is this something you're saying to make a point or is it a fact?
If this is factual, I'd love to know the source for the data.
Thanks.
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Well, ya'll can feel a bit better, while the lighting and exposure seem ok (probably choose #4 and #13 lighting settings from the Standard Photographers Handbook </sarcasm>), it's just....no. http://awkwardfamilyphotos.com/2013/07/21/alice-in-wonderland/
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LewisShermer
point shoot hope
jdramirez said:
I enjoy hot chicks with big cameras.
I was once at a gig and there was a hot chick shooting with an old medium format hasselblad that looked like she had no idea what she was doing. She was hot.
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