This is completely true. Canon needs to start selling Canon A7s and Canon A9s.Sony sells WAY more A7s and A9s than Canon.
Why haven''t they thought of this. Why did they call the camera R?
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This is completely true. Canon needs to start selling Canon A7s and Canon A9s.Sony sells WAY more A7s and A9s than Canon.
I think on very compact "cinema" cameras a good AF is a real benefit. Like on the C200. Or the 1DX II -> for example on a gimbal or on 1-men-projects its realy INCREDIBLE helpful to have a good working autofocus. It just takes so much hassle away and you can concentrate much easier on your image, composition, content, surround. Especialy in run and gun situations its a big benefit. And with the very small size of this camera its a good pick for this work.You seem to misunderstand the concept of a cinema camera.
Well, your want list corresponds more to a run a gun video rig. If you want good AF in a "cinema" camera you have pretty much only once choice. Canon's cinema cameras. There are a lot of pros to the BMPCC's. But you're going to have to give up AF while rolling video because like most cinema cameras it doesn't do that.I think on very compact "cinema" cameras a good AF is a real benefit. Like on the C200. Or the 1DX II -> for example on a gimbal or on 1-men-projects its realy INCREDIBLE helpful to have a good working autofocus. It just takes so much hassle away and you can concentrate much easier on your image, composition, content, surround. Especialy in run and gun situations its a big benefit. And with the very small size of this camera its a good pick for this work.
So it looks like Canon APS-C glass won't be quite wide enough, though if your shooting in 6K you can always crop out the black parts and still end up > 4K resolution. My Canon 10-22 will fit in that category. My two Sigma lenses which are designed for 1.5 crop might be wide enough if the Canon mount on the back of the lenses doesn't cause issues. Then again it also depends on how they handle the aspect ratios. If they are just cropping then every thing should work just fine. If they are down sampling not so much.
Nope all these fake purist type people just want a block that records images with no automation or intelligent features. to hell with technology making life and work easier. features that make life easier is not cinematic.I think on very compact "cinema" cameras a good AF is a real benefit. Like on the C200. Or the 1DX II -> for example on a gimbal or on 1-men-projects its realy INCREDIBLE helpful to have a good working autofocus. It just takes so much hassle away and you can concentrate much easier on your image, composition, content, surround. Especialy in run and gun situations its a big benefit. And with the very small size of this camera its a good pick for this work.
Thats true, right now only canon does offer a decent AF in cinema cameras. But I think it would be a good idea of Blackmagic to include a good AF in the pocket line. The ultra compact form factor makes it a great choice as a run and gun camera =)Well, your want list corresponds more to a run a gun video rig. If you want good AF in a "cinema" camera you have pretty much only once choice. Canon's cinema cameras. There are a lot of pros to the BMPCC's. But you're going to have to give up AF while rolling video because like most cinema cameras it doesn't do that.
Haha, jeah, true =)nope all these fake purist type peopel just want a block that records images with no automation ro intelligent features. to hell with technolgy making life and work easier. features that make life easier is not cinematic.
Nope all these fake purist type people just want a block that records images with no automation or intelligent features. to hell with technology making life and work easier. features that make life easier is not cinematic.
No, AF is simply not the panacea you seem to think it is. Even if the AF is perfect and can track the subject's eyes perfectly and never hunt or pump if the subject is moving the focus changes will most likely be visible in the bokeh of the background which is undesirable. Instead they set the focus to the middle of the zone the subject is moving in and make sure the DoF is sufficient to cover the area and shoot the shot with fixed focus so there's no focus shifting in the background.Nope all these fake purist type people just want a block that records images with no automation or intelligent features. to hell with technology making life and work easier. features that make life easier is not cinematic.
I'm more interested in the Blackmagic color science, ProRes and the larger sensor than I am 6K. Skyfall, which was shot in 1080p still looks amazing on a giant screen. Honestly, I'm still not on the resolution bandwagon. The only uses I can see for 6K is for cropping in or for incorporating CGI. But for 95% of the people using the camera, 6K is just going to translate into more expensive storage and a need to upgrade their editing system. Increasing the resolution seems to be an easy way to release new camera models. I'd rather camera companies tackle the hard stuff, which is increased dynamic range, color science, lowlight, better codecs and power efficiency. I could care less about resolution.
Any idea if any of the Canon cameras are certified for Netflix productions? There was gossip that BM was trying to get the 4K BMPCC certified. I wonder if the 6 K will get it? I honestly can't think of a reason why it shouldn't.But if you look at the cameras used in Netflix series, there isn't a single Canon on the list:
I'm more interested in the Blackmagic color science, ProRes and the larger sensor than I am 6K
I'm anxious to see how large the BM RAW files are, supposedly their new blackmagic raw format does a pretty good job and keeping file sizes more reasonable, at least that's what I read initially.
they embraced things after backlash because people dont like change but after awhile they become more comfortable. AF is something that can be used when needed. Just like people use canon cinema cameras with AF and. when it doesnt work the way we want it to, we simply turn it off. it is just another optional tool in the arsenal that is better to have than not have.No, AF is simply not the panacea you seem to think it is. Even if the AF is perfect and can track the subject's eyes perfectly and never hunt or pump if the subject is moving the focus changes will most likely be visible in the bokeh of the background which is undesirable. Instead they set the focus to the middle of the zone the subject is moving in and make sure the DoF is sufficient to cover the area and shoot the shot with fixed focus so there's no focus shifting in the background.
Sure there are a few cases where AF would be nice. But there are lots of cases where it's not. Your premise that cinematic shooters are technophobe Luddites flies in the face of reality. They aren't still shooting B&W film with mono audio or an organist are they? Digital has nearly eliminated film. They've embraced things like 3D, HDR, object based audio, etc.
I wouldn't simply label people as "fake purists" if they opt not to use AF in their production. Cameras like the C200 are better suited for ENG work and docs, etc. The run-n-gun approach or 1-man operator fit that use case quite well, but in many other narrative productions, it makes no sense and the AF is too slow or imprecise for inclusion. The technology wouldn't exactly help them in any capacity.
If you look at Sundance, Canon is used quite extensively:
Sundance 2019: Here Are the Cameras Used to Shoot This Year’s Documentaries
Nonfiction Cinematography: Filmmakers on how they shot their films and the unique production demands that dictated equipment choices.www.indiewire.com
But if you look at the cameras used in Netflix series, there isn't a single Canon on the list:
The Cameras Behind Netflix Best Series: Spoiler- RED Dominates - Y.M.Cinema Magazine
We sampled more than 40 of the highest ranked Netflix series, and we checked their tech spec on IMDB, to explore the cameras behind them. The results were the opposite of what we found at the Academy Awards, Cannes and Sundance Film Festival. It seems that Netflix is another game of...ymcinema.com
The industry kind of determines what features are expected in a cinema camera at large, but Blackmagic has been pretty aggressive of late. I still remember the days of the original Blackmagic cameras that couldn't even format cards, view remaining storage capacity and even monitor audio channels in camera. I wonder if they (and other lower cost entrants) are having an impact on Canon because it appears Canon's cinema line has been taking a thrashing lately. They lost 60% of its sales last quarter in areas outside of the Americas and even reclassified their cinema segment outside of its imaging BU moving a large operating profit deficit with it as well...
Any idea if any of the Canon cameras are certified for Netflix productions?
Nope all these fake purist type people just want a block that records images with no automation or intelligent features. to hell with technology making life and work easier. features that make life easier is not cinematic.
Skyfall in a beautiful film, but not shot in 1080p : https://shotonwhat.com/skyfall-2012I'm more interested in the Blackmagic color science, ProRes and the larger sensor than I am 6K. Skyfall, which was shot in 1080p still looks amazing on a giant screen. Honestly, I'm still not on the resolution bandwagon. The only uses I can see for 6K is for cropping in or for incorporating CGI. But for 95% of the people using the camera, 6K is just going to translate into more expensive storage and a need to upgrade their editing system. Increasing the resolution seems to be an easy way to release new camera models. I'd rather camera companies tackle the hard stuff, which is increased dynamic range, color science, lowlight, better codecs and power efficiency. I could care less about resolution.
Nope, the reason most cinema cameras dont have those features is that you have a dedicated focus puller as part of the crew. If you're renting RED or Alexa you aren't a one person run and gun setup. And a good focus puller beat an AF system 99% of the time for fiction. We have half a dozen C200s and while the AF is great for certain things, especially when you're doing everything alone, given the choice, especially for fiction I'd take a crew every time. Having the AF adjust focus when you dont want it to, lose the object its tracking, react too slowly or too quickly etc. are noit cinematic.
A one man blog/wedding videographer is not the same thing as the crew for a feature/tv series, they dont use the same equipment and dont need the same features.
This is not exactly rocket science.