Can you really tell which image is a 5d IV

[cpsico]

Just a couple of well exposed shots at low ISO. I was out playing with old camera gear and new. While I love everything about my new 5d I won't say without one my photography is doomed. I bet I could even take nice pictures with a 6D mark II.

Cameras used here are a 1Ds markIII, a 6D, and a shiny new 5D IV

 

[cpsico]

Every picture taken with a different camera, each with its own quirks, strengths and weaknesses. Don't get hung up on dxo mark, shadow lift, etc. At the end of the day the camera you have is still amazing if you take the time to learn how to best use it.

 

[sanj]

I can't.

Learnt something: All camera's give similar IQ (all things frame size, lens, ISO being close), it is just the ease with which they take the photo is different. And that difference too is evident only in extreme situations.

 

[Jack Douglas]

You mean the people driving around in Ford, Chev, Toyoto, and Hyundai are all getting the same ride experience, more or less. Well, who'd have thought that. And the doors all fit and close really nicely. Well, I'll be! Oh but I forgot, one has 20 more horsepower. Guess the others are actually junk.

Jack

 

[SecureGSM]

cpsico,
the second last image (img_0695) really stands out for me. what was the cam used?
thanks.

Every picture taken with a different camera, each with its own quirks, strengths and weaknesses. Don't get hung up on dxo mark, shadow lift, etc. At the end of the day the camera you have is still amazing if you take the time to learn how to best use it.

 

[AlanF]

cpsico,
the second last image (img_0695) really stands out for me. what was the cam used?
thanks.

Every picture taken with a different camera, each with its own quirks, strengths and weaknesses. Don't get hung up on dxo mark, shadow lift, etc. At the end of the day the camera you have is still amazing if you take the time to learn how to best use it.

That was from the camera without the electronic level.

 

[SecureGSM]

good one, Alan. I was impressed by the colour rendition in that image. Old Canon colour profile?

cpsico,
the second last image (img_0695) really stands out for me. what was the cam used?
thanks.

Every picture taken with a different camera, each with its own quirks, strengths and weaknesses. Don't get hung up on dxo mark, shadow lift, etc. At the end of the day the camera you have is still amazing if you take the time to learn how to best use it.

That was from the camera without the electronic level.

 

[Aglet]

0690, middle shot first post, is very noisy - the sky looks like gravel and the jpg compression has just made the noise look even worse. And this is a downsampled file.
What ISO was that shot at and with what camera? Cuz it sure isn't nice large print capable w-o a lot of NR applied.

As for many of the others... who can tell what from downsized images with crushed shadows?
not the sort of look I like; excessively contrasty and no tonality in the shadows, over-compressed jpg on top of it.

And generally under-exposed where fill-light wasn't used.

You're reminding me why I left Canon for daylight landscape shots. ;D

 

[cpsico]

cpsico,
the second last image (img_0695) really stands out for me. what was the cam used?
thanks.

Every picture taken with a different camera, each with its own quirks, strengths and weaknesses. Don't get hung up on dxo mark, shadow lift, etc. At the end of the day the camera you have is still amazing if you take the time to learn how to best use it.

5D mark II with a Tiffan enhancing filter. The sun was nice slow so the light was almost perfect

 

[cpsico]

0690, middle shot first post, is very noisy - the sky looks like gravel and the jpg compression has just made the noise look even worse. And this is a downsampled file.
What ISO was that shot at and with what camera? Cuz it sure isn't nice large print capable w-o a lot of NR applied.

As for many of the others... who can tell what from downsized images with crushed shadows?
not the sort of look I like; excessively contrasty and no tonality in the shadows, over-compressed jpg on top of it.

And generally under-exposed where fill-light wasn't used.

You're reminding me why I left Canon for daylight landscape shots. ;D

ISO 320 canon 6d with a polarizing filter.

 

[cpsico]

The first 5 are a 5d IV, 6-8 are the same lense 1D III for 6&7 last is 1Ds III. Is the 5d IV the best damn canon camera? Heck yes it's amazing and far more versatile than anything else. I just think some of the dxo shadow,underexposed by 5 stops thing lift gets a little silly sometimes

 

[YuengLinger]

You mean the people driving around in Ford, Chev, Toyoto, and Hyundai are all getting the same ride experience, more or less. Well, who'd have thought that. And the doors all fit and close really nicely. Well, I'll be! Oh but I forgot, one has 20 more horsepower. Guess the others are actually junk.

Jack

Funny and exactly, Jack.

I've long suspected that "passionate" photographers, especially the most successful, must have OCD. Musicians and software engineers too, among others. Some people call this perfectionism, and it can lead to absurd concerns about gear and specs. And marketing departments know this, whether for photography, automobiles, computers, TV's, heck, even kitchen equipment and ingredients for cooking.

Thanks, cpsico, for gently reminding us that knowing how to use the gear is more important than the specs!

 

[cpsico]

0690, middle shot first post, is very noisy - the sky looks like gravel and the jpg compression has just made the noise look even worse. And this is a downsampled file.
What ISO was that shot at and with what camera? Cuz it sure isn't nice large print capable w-o a lot of NR applied.

As for many of the others... who can tell what from downsized images with crushed shadows?
not the sort of look I like; excessively contrasty and no tonality in the shadows, over-compressed jpg on top of it.

And generally under-exposed where fill-light wasn't used.

You're reminding me why I left Canon for daylight landscape shots. ;D

 

[arthurbikemad]

Nice sunsets!

 

[Loswr]

not the sort of look I like

The sort of look Aglet doesnt' like:

The sort of look Aglet likes:

 

[BillB]

You mean the people driving around in Ford, Chev, Toyoto, and Hyundai are all getting the same ride experience, more or less. Well, who'd have thought that. And the doors all fit and close really nicely. Well, I'll be! Oh but I forgot, one has 20 more horsepower. Guess the others are actually junk.

Jack

Funny and exactly, Jack.

I've long suspected that "passionate" photographers, especially the most successful, must have OCD. Musicians and software engineers too, among others. Some people call this perfectionism, and it can lead to absurd concerns about gear and specs. And marketing departments know this, whether for photography, automobiles, computers, TV's, heck, even kitchen equipment and ingredients for cooking.

Thanks, cpsico, for gently reminding us that knowing how to use the gear is more important than the specs!

In addition to marketers, people fishing for clicks on their websites know that bashing new equipment can attract attention, along with magic numbers of dubious significance. Endless hours of fun.

 

[Aglet]

ISO 320 canon 6d with a polarizing filter.

PL filter use is betrayed but the sudden shift in sky appearance from left to right but even I'm surprised at how much chunky noise there is in the sky at 320 ISO!

 

[Aglet]

not the sort of look I like

The sort of look Aglet doesnt' like:

ARGHHH!! My eyes! My eyeses! PAINful!

That second image... No Samsung, Sigma or Sony cameras in my inventory...
Hmmm... I may be averse to esses

 

[dak723]

I've long suspected that "passionate" photographers, especially the most successful, must have OCD. Musicians and software engineers too, among others. Some people call this perfectionism, and it can lead to absurd concerns about gear and specs. And marketing departments know this, whether for photography, automobiles, computers, TV's, heck, even kitchen equipment and ingredients for cooking.

Thanks, cpsico, for gently reminding us that knowing how to use the gear is more important than the specs!

I beg to disagree. While there certainly are some perfectionists among professionals (whether photographers, musicians, etc.) it is the enthusiast "Wannabe's" that are the ones who are technology obsessed. Most professionals are quite aware that the gear is NOT the number one priority and that they can do their professional job with virtually any pro level equipment.

 

[pwp]

I've long suspected that "passionate" photographers, especially the most successful, must have OCD. Musicians and software engineers too, among others. Some people call this perfectionism, and it can lead to absurd concerns about gear and specs. And marketing departments know this, whether for photography, automobiles, computers, TV's, heck, even kitchen equipment and ingredients for cooking.

Thanks, cpsico, for gently reminding us that knowing how to use the gear is more important than the specs!

I beg to disagree. While there certainly are some perfectionists among professionals (whether photographers, musicians, etc.) it is the enthusiast "Wannabe's" that are the ones who are technology obsessed. Most professionals are quite aware that the gear is NOT the number one priority and that they can do their professional job with virtually any pro level equipment.

I suspect you've nailed it Dak723. Out of the dozens of very successful professionals I am associated with, a good number of them may not even be aware that the 5D Mark 4 even exists. Let alone that a 6D Mark 2 has been released. They'll look around at the latest pro-level releases when it's time to upgrade. The rest of the time they're far more focused on refining their creativity, running their businesses, setting up shoots, client relations, staff management, marketing and all the other un-glamorous backend stuff that is a reality when operating a small business. Most could deliver a very decent result for a client using an iPhone 7. Or an ancient EOS 20D. Not that they would. Working with the latest high end cameras offers obvious technical advantages, a positive client perception and hell, new stuff is fun and good for the soul!

Gear obsessed perfectionists whether professional or enthusiast do us all a great service with microscopic analysis and careful pixel peeping. Then they'll report their findings here on CR for the rest of us! All viewpoints, opinions and positions are valid and add up to a truly fascinating and informative diversity.

-pw