Canon 5D MK3 or 6D Replacements... when?

[cocopop05]

All I can say is that Canon have very long lifecycles on their full frame cameras and high end cameras. And they appear to be getting longer. The 7D is almost 3.5 years old.

If you do not mind waiting another 2-3 years for the 5DMIII and 6D replacements, then wait.

Personally, that is an eternity for me and I would buy now. Actually I did, in September 2012 - 5DMIII.

 

[azezal]

I say buy a 6d/5d2 for now and start saving for the 2015 5d mark IV

 

[nicku]

I hope to see the 6D replacement soon.

 

[tomscott]

I would say get the 5DMKIII I moved from the 40D & 7D, the leap is huge.

Its a shame the 5DMKIII got such a bad reception when it was announced just because of price. I was blown away with it when it was announced, I couldn't have told Canon to create a more perfect camera for me. Its basically a full frame 40D with awesome IQ and noise performance with the best AF system Canon has to offer!

Dont be scare-mongered into believing that Canon cameras cant keep up. The banding and shadow issues are a non issue for 90% of shooting and if you know how to use a camera you wont run into these problems. It is more useful when you make a mess of an image and it needs some ridiculous recovery. Low light performance and noise is very very similar in real world application, 11.7EV is nothing to be sniffed at its more than enough range, 22mp is enough to create extremely detailed prints natively at A2 with no upscaling. The amount of people printing at A2 regularly I would say is quite small outside the professional realm.

In the 4 months I have been shooting with the 5DMKIII I have never come across the issue claimed by many, possibly because I expose my pictures properly. 6400ISO is a joy to use, its like 1000ISO on the 7D, a lifesaver. I shot these at 12800ISO recently as a test and they look fantastic, no banding very little noise and with minimal processing or effort.


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This is my thread:
http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=13209.0

Couple of good articles recently on the forum that are worth looking at

http://www.arthurdomagala.com/blog/2012/04/dynamic-range-canon-dslrs-and-shadow-noise-dealing-with-it/

http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Publications/DxOMark-Reviews/Which-lenses-should-you-choose-for-your-Canon-EOS-5D-Mark-III/Canon-EOS-5D-Mark-III-vs.-Nikon-D800-Competition-is-closer-than-expected

The 5DMKIII is IMO one of the best cameras ever made for professionals. The IQ is stunning, its incredibly sharp, fantastic features, and the addition of the EF line up, there isnt really anything else I would want in the 5DMKIII. They have sold like hotcakes and most pros I know own them or want one. I dont know anyone who has switched to Nikon because of it mostly amateurs who dont use their cameras commercially.

But the D800 is a fantastic camera and it is cheaper but the files are just ridiculously large, you would not only have to invest in a new camera and lens system you would have to invest in a high end machine to edit them! Without even thinking about storage. If landscape is your thing I would say ye go for it the D800 is made for it, but the 5DMKIII is the best all round FF camera on the market and as the thread above suggests the sharpness is very close between them and much easier to get across the board with the Canon lenses.

But the D800 is slow for most other application and the file sizes are excessive for use and would need to be downsized in most cases. Fantastic for cropping, but where is the skill theres no point in composing lol! But if the best is all that will do then its a great camera but its not without its problems too. The IQ of a camera is important but the features and use of it are of equal importance, which is where the 5D is better IMO.

The 6D I wasn't sold on, the cameras performance is fantastic on par with the 5DMKIII in some cases better but if you are using primes wide open with only one cross point right in the middle focusing and recomposing will lead to focus shift. Would have been another perfect camera for a lot of people if they had put the 7D AF in it, in fact I would have bought one to go with my 5DMKIII instead I will get a second 5D.

I think coming from the 7D you will be blown away. I was pretty disappointed with the 7D not for its features or even high ISO performance but its IQ where it counts at 100-400 where I shoot primarily. The 5D is so clean here its amazing. You can play a waiting game for as long as you want but I don't see another 5D for 18-24 months. If you are really worried about DR then just bracket, then you will realise you don't need to.

Hope this helps

 

[gjeb]

I registered just so i can reply to this topic. Hah!!! http://canonrumors.com/forum/Smileys/default/grin.gif

I too am using a 7d and heavily invested in L glass. Earlier this year, I bought a Nikon D600 but returned it - dust and oil after just 300 shots. The IQ and DR is definitely their but their manufacturing QA is definitely not.

My gut feeling is that Canon will need to move faster to answer Nikon's IQ and DR advancement in order to not lose out on new users and system switchers. How much faster, I do not know, but they will need to do something sooner than later.

So right now, I am just waiting and saving. Just my gut feeling (nothing else) Canon will surprise us soon!!!

 

[M.ST]

There will be no 5D Mark III or 6D replacement in the nex two years.

But there will be a FF over the 5D Mark III.

 

[smithy]

Save yourself some pain and buy a 5D3 now. Otherwise you'll chew your fingernails off every time Canon makes an announcement for the next 2-3 years.

 

[hamada]

ok ok im sold!!

i think i will buy the 6D next week.

im not so much into sports photography.
90% i do is landscape, macro and portraits.

i looked at the 5D MK3 AF system (camera manual) and i have to say i would not use it to it ´s full potential anyway. it´s to complicated for what i need... or lets say it has to many options to fiddel around with i would never us.

with the 7D i used the center AF point most of the time.
except when i shoot portraits with my 100mm f2.0 and 50mm f1.4.

i think the 6D with the 7D AF would be perfect for me.
or when all 11 AF points would be cross focus points.
but i think i can live with the 6D AF system.

i would love to shot birds but my longest lens is a 70-200mm.
makes no real fun with such a short lens i noticed.
don´t know if it makes sense to buy a 5D MK3 yet just for the possibility that i will buy a 400mm lens some day.

the 5D MK3 is 1000 euro more and i need to buy a standard zoom too.
so for a kit that means 2500 vs 3500 euro....3500 euro is too much money for me.

thanks for all your advices!

 

[tomscott]

The 7D is as good if not better for sports and birding for larger prints with the crop factor and pixel density apart from high ISO which you may need (400mm F5.6 or 100-400mm F4.5-5.6 are the easiest way to get into the long end but are fairly slow lenses ISO is a god send) to get the same field of view you need to crop and as previously said the density is more useful for large prints. If you buy the 6D and keep the 7D you will be pretty much set for a good compromise.

Its a good combo, and gives you a second camera as a backup. Thing is the 5DMKIII is a joy to use and is best of both worlds. I would take the 5DMKIII but it is slightly more expensive but really is very underrated cant say that enough.

 

[dickgrafixstop]

No digital camera is an investment. They are all rapidly depreciating expenses. Determine if you really can't do
what you like with your current gear and if the answer is "no", then go buy something that will. Whatever you choose, there will be a better choice in six months.

 

[Malte_P]

No digital camera is an investment. They are all rapidly depreciating expenses. Determine if you really can't do
what you like with your current gear and if the answer is "no", then go buy something that will. Whatever you choose, there will be a better choice in six months.

he does not see that camera as investment... not as an investment that grows.
but he wants to spend/invest his money for the right stuff.

as most people do who work for their money.


so it´s absolutely fine to aks if there will be a better option in the "near" future.