Canon 5D X

[Axilrod]

I'm highly doubtful the next 5D will carry an "X" moniker. It wouldn't seem prudent for Canon to take such a large gamble with a larger segment of their market - they're free to gamble with the 1D X (and I think that until the reviews come in many photographers are going to be on the fence, if not extremely wary) but the "X" signifies a large overhaul of the system. To do that with the 5D - well, would they do that for the lowly Rebels, too, or the 7D? Meshing together the marketing isn't a good enough reason; the X would most likely signify comprehensive changes to the format and I don't see those changes being too likely for other cameras in the range.

Are you saying you wouldn't buy a camera because of the name? 5D Mark III, 5DX, I don't care what it's called, if it has great specs, I'll buy it.

 

[Edwin Herdman]

5. USB 2.0 only. USB 3.0 is already on my laptop and PC motherboard.

I think USB 3.0 chips are ubiquitous by now - it shouldn't cost very much more to use these, and at some point the movement by chip producers to USB 3.0 would make it more expensive to produce a legacy-only USB 2.0 specific chip (although my impression has been that USB 3.0 takeup has been slower than it should, as you also notice - my motherboard from 2008 had multiple USB 3.0 ports).

 

[JR]

I am beginning to wonder if perhaps the "split" of the 5D has already been announced and that the "video special" version will be the "red C" DSLR that was "announced" earlier this month.

Meaning that the follow on camera from the 5D2 will be a FF camera targetted at photographers and that there will be no cheaper FF camera.

I fear you may be right. The video component of the 5D mkII was a selling point for me and I was hoping its replacement would improve on that. Now it could look like I would have two buy 2 camera bodies to improve on the still and video features of the 5D mkII???

We must be missing something, with Nikon including video in its future D800, something is wrong here, unless Canon decided to play in a different market segment...

 

[ions]

Unless they actually make a 3D capable camera it won't happen. Same reason why we won't get a 2D.
Similar to your ideal i now get the feeling that its going to go something like this...

1D-X Flagship - $7000
1D-C 4K Video DSLR - $5000
5D3 - High MP Full Frame, Basic HD video (similar to mk2 already has) - $2500
7D2 - Top APSC - $2000

I agree, this is well reasoned. That said, I wouldn't be shocked to see the 5DIII carry the same sensor as the 1DX either but in a stripped down 5Desque body. Remember we haven't seen the capabilities of that sensor yet and to completely dismiss it on resolution is dangerous. Not saying that's what I think will happen, I just wouldn't be surprised. It would be nice to see the 5DIII a bigger step over the 7DII than the 5DII is over the 7D because right now the 7D is a better camera in every way except the sensor and for many people that sensor edge isn't necessary (whether they know it or not). If it's gonna be like it is now and the 5DIII is gonna be a crappier camera with a slightly better sensor than the 7DII I'll stick with the 7 and save my pennies for the X instead. Maybe that's what Canon wants and they win? Almost every time I go shoot I get an affirmation in how important a good reliable versatile camera is to me.

 

[moreorless]

So how would they distance it from the C300? That's going to be the really interesting question. Something that I find rather interesting is that the base ISO of the C300 is ISO 640 (or is it 800?) - not 100. Will the "C" DSLR be designed similarly? Does the "C" DSLR become a C300 without the plethora of outputs? Or...?

Perhaps the video DSLR will be to 4K video what the 5D mk2 was to HD? a cheaper option.

The C300 on the other hand seems to be targetting more towards the upper end of the HD market.

 

[Zuuyi]

I said 3d before the Cinema EOS camera was announced. I just put 3d because it's in between the 1D-X and 5DII numerically. It will probably go for $5000 like i said.

I just want my 7D2 or 5D3 to be announced soon; these waiting games are not fun.

http://www.canonrumors.com/2011/11/a-little-canon-roadmap/

In the roadmap what's the camera right next to the 1DX (Top Left Quadrant); it's not the Cinema EOS Camera because that's in the Top Right Quadrant.

 

[UncleFester]

I think however it turns out, in the $1,500 to $2,500 segment, Canon will always have you buying two cameras to cover 1D tasks. Or, close to it anyway.

 

[Wrathwilde]

What does the X stand for? Did they explain? - Ooops sorry re read

I wonder why they steered away from 5 as the 1 series was always named after the digic processor number... eg 1d3 - digic 3 - 1d4 digic 4

- I realise they crossed over the two models... but I thought the numbering system was quite effective

Maybe because the EOS 1D X has two Digic 5 processors, 5+5=X - Just Kidding, but it would still work.

 

[te4o]

I wonder what are Canon waiting for with their FF 5D update. They already have the technology to give us the choice of three highly awaited FF cameras which will be selling like crazy, and at the same time they watch the 1Ds3 taken off the market, 1D4 unavailable in most shops, 5D2 plummeting by the month in price, as well as the rebels taken over by Fuji and Pani and Sony and so on because the newly announced m43 do the job for this audience...
So what is the game here?
Are we stuck with a too big to change company (still making the best still DSLR) or is there a bigger picture?
No, I am not buying the 5D2 even at this price - I want an X behind it too, or a 3. Something which belongs in 2011 and soon 2012.

 

[Tarrum]

What's Canon waiting?

Sony and Nikon have their FF models delayed due to the floods. And sure it's not 100% but it makes a lot of sense as factories aren't working at all, and won't be for the next few weeks/months. Nikon stated full production will return in early 2012, so they could announce a FF model only some time before, not 6 months earlier.

There's no need to rush and announce the 5D MK III. II still sells very well, and they just announced their most professional camera ever, along with new video products. It needs everyone's attention, and the 5D MK III most likely won't get an announcement before the 1DX is out. Maybe it will, but it definitely won't be available before it.

I also doubt it will be X. X stands for a merge, X stands for 10th generation and Xtreme. A 5D with more megapixels and 4fps wouldn't be that extreme ;D

 

[JR]

What's Canon waiting?

Sony and Nikon have their FF models delayed due to the floods. And sure it's not 100% but it makes a lot of sense as factories aren't working at all, and won't be for the next few weeks/months. Nikon stated full production will return in early 2012, so they could announce a FF model only some time before, not 6 months earlier.

There's no need to rush and announce the 5D MK III. II still sells very well, and they just announced their most professional camera ever, along with new video products. It needs everyone's attention, and the 5D MK III most likely won't get an announcement before the 1DX is out. Maybe it will, but it definitely won't be available before it.

I also doubt it will be X. X stands for a merge, X stands for 10th generation and Xtreme. A 5D with more megapixels and 4fps wouldn't be that extreme ;D

I agree with you that the flooding of the factories has impacted the chess game between Nikon and Canon big time. I think Nikon was hoping to launch their D800 this year before Xmas but its no longer in a position to do so due to its operation being down. I also believe Canon was waiting for Nikon to make the first move before doing anything on the 5D II.

As soon as operatons are fully back up and running in Q1 2012 I think this is when the fun will start with a few announcement from each companies. I think by the latest end of Q1 (March or April), both the D700 replacement and the 5D II replacement should be announced (wishful thinking!)...

 

[bycostello]

higher iso the only reason i'd upgrade...

 

[Isaac]

I don' think it'll carry the name "X" because there were several reasons why the 1DX was called that. Some reasons include; merging of two models, tenth model since the first model was created etc.

Therefore, it should carry the name - Canon 5D mark III.