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this camera looks like a real winner to me!
this camera looks like a real winner to me!
Canon 7D Mark 2 Rolling Review
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My main interest in getting this camera is to use it with the 200-400. Now I am REALLY looking forward to get it 
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Eldar said:My main interest in getting this camera is to use it with the 200-400. Now I am REALLY looking forward to get it
I only have a 400 f/5.6 but wow! I cannot wait to get my hands on this beast!!!
PS wish I had a 200-400 like you Eldar
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I'm also glad to hear of the glowing reviews. At present, I'm not considering this camera, but I was somewhat suspect of reviews like Kelby's who is associated with Canon. With each independent review, more cred.
Can't wait to see example pics from all types of photogs.
Who knows, I may change my mind.
Good for Canon, good for us.
sek.
Can't wait to see example pics from all types of photogs.
Who knows, I may change my mind.
Good for Canon, good for us.
sek.
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Rouse isn't really independent, he's a Canon Explorer which is the reason he got access to a preproduction model. The cam looks great but take these pre-release reviews with a grain of salt.
That said, the shots at 1600 look great, similar to what I get with my mkIV. Its a confusingly worded in the review but I think those are TIFFs produced from RAW? Hard to say as it wasn't exactly clear and the pics from PS are too small to make out the file extensions. I'm disappointed that this is another review that skips over the AF system, especially since he went into it pretty thoroughly in his 1DX review. It would be cool to know from someone with the body in hand if the AF points are illuminated, do they display during auto-select, how well does that AF mode toggle work and is it programmable, facial recog?, etc. None of this would require extensive testing to report on but so far the two big name reviewers aren't interested in mentioning this stuff. I know the AF works and is fast and accurate. That's true of literally every DSLR available for purchase in the YOOL 2014. An SL1 will nail focus on a stationary deer. I'm interested in the advanced AF system and specifically how much of an improvement it is from a camera that a likely 7DII buyer will be upgrading from.
That said, the shots at 1600 look great, similar to what I get with my mkIV. Its a confusingly worded in the review but I think those are TIFFs produced from RAW? Hard to say as it wasn't exactly clear and the pics from PS are too small to make out the file extensions. I'm disappointed that this is another review that skips over the AF system, especially since he went into it pretty thoroughly in his 1DX review. It would be cool to know from someone with the body in hand if the AF points are illuminated, do they display during auto-select, how well does that AF mode toggle work and is it programmable, facial recog?, etc. None of this would require extensive testing to report on but so far the two big name reviewers aren't interested in mentioning this stuff. I know the AF works and is fast and accurate. That's true of literally every DSLR available for purchase in the YOOL 2014. An SL1 will nail focus on a stationary deer. I'm interested in the advanced AF system and specifically how much of an improvement it is from a camera that a likely 7DII buyer will be upgrading from.
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He did say he is going to start testing the AF, but I agree with him Canon would of not came out with it and hyped the af if it was not good.
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Lastest from Liquidstone/Romy is that it seems to focus at least as well as a 1D4/5D3 for BIF and probably better and he believe it will prove to be the best AF he has ever used.
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LetTheRightLensIn said:
Cool, I'm gonna have to keep checking in with this guy since he's doing an actual comparison to a camera I'm familiar with.
Also, while searching for that Liquidstone post at FM, I found out that Arthur Morris is selling 7DII RAW files for $5 each. What a scumbag, lol.
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As Steve said... Rouse is not exactly unbiased and independent. When all the canon explorers say its too good to be true... Well don't bet the farm on these reviews is all.
Andy mentioned that he thought this camera could beat the 5d3 on high ISO. I'm not drinking the punch yet.
Looks to be an awesome camera. High ISO looks good too, but a thorough independent review may bring folks back to reality a bit.
Andy mentioned that he thought this camera could beat the 5d3 on high ISO. I'm not drinking the punch yet.
Looks to be an awesome camera. High ISO looks good too, but a thorough independent review may bring folks back to reality a bit.
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Canon1 said:
Photos and tests have been out for quite a while now, it basically matches the 70D for high ISO, a stop behind the 1D MK IV, 2 stops behind the 5DMK III.
You can see for yourself.
http://www.imaging-resource.com/IMCOMP/COMPS01.HTM
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Mt Spokane Photography said:
Yet the people who have had their hands on the camera says it's better than the 70D by a fair margin.
Some South African shooters have posted that it is not an incrementally improved 70D sensor but a whole new animal.
I do agree though that a fully independent review is probably needed.
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Mt Spokane Photography said:
One thing to keep in mind is that the tests from IR are far from perfect. The lighting is not even consistent from one camera to the other for the same exact test scene.
I don't dispute that the new 7d sensor is a great improvement over its predecessor, and may very well be one and two stops behind the 1d4 and 5d3 respectively... But I have yet to see a definitive test that illustrates this, or a review by an impartial source. ;-)
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Was on holidays with limited internet when the 7D2 came out. Does the camera have the option of linking AF points to exposure?
To me this is quite important when choosing not to use the spot center point. Example, 6D with 600mm using vertical orientation and the upper focus point. A pileated woodpecker lands on a stump in close proximity and my exposure comes off his densely black body (center point), significantly overexposing his red and white and black head. So just compensate - right? However, in situations like this the subject tends to be in constant motion with the background/foreground shifting from dark stump to blue sky to significant to almost out of the picture, not to mention the shadows.
Of course I'm relatively new to all this so there are no doubt some alternate solutions but for now that may be a deal breaker and reason to wait a little longer.
BTW in contrast to this reviews assertion, I find in my multi-hour hikes up mountainsides that I'd never crave to have a much heavier camera, although I do understand the principle of balance. My 6D with 300 2.8 X2 balances very nicely and is more comfortable than with just the 300. The shot doesn't illustrate perfectly but you can see how my hand pulls the camera into my armpit allowing the unit to be both carried comfortably or simply steadied by my hand while being supported by the shoulder strap. I can climb through bushes and jump puddles without losing a beat. Sadly, the 1Dx doesn't sit in there nearly as well and adds quite a bit of weight.
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To me this is quite important when choosing not to use the spot center point. Example, 6D with 600mm using vertical orientation and the upper focus point. A pileated woodpecker lands on a stump in close proximity and my exposure comes off his densely black body (center point), significantly overexposing his red and white and black head. So just compensate - right? However, in situations like this the subject tends to be in constant motion with the background/foreground shifting from dark stump to blue sky to significant to almost out of the picture, not to mention the shadows.
Of course I'm relatively new to all this so there are no doubt some alternate solutions but for now that may be a deal breaker and reason to wait a little longer.
BTW in contrast to this reviews assertion, I find in my multi-hour hikes up mountainsides that I'd never crave to have a much heavier camera, although I do understand the principle of balance. My 6D with 300 2.8 X2 balances very nicely and is more comfortable than with just the 300. The shot doesn't illustrate perfectly but you can see how my hand pulls the camera into my armpit allowing the unit to be both carried comfortably or simply steadied by my hand while being supported by the shoulder strap. I can climb through bushes and jump puddles without losing a beat. Sadly, the 1Dx doesn't sit in there nearly as well and adds quite a bit of weight.
Jack
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He always comes across as a paid shill. Hinting that the sensor will be radically better than the one in the 70D, come on. And how it might be close to APS_H,FF for high ISO non-reach limited? Come on. And his 4k talk, come on, some of the other 4k stuff won't make you have to rob a bank and he doesn't even put it in the best terms either. (although it's possible if Canon had put 4k in it they might have raised the price a bit (even though I bet the sales compared to what they get from 1DC would've way more than made up for 1DC lost sales and they'd be pulling in tons more money overall and in that sense would'nt even need to raise the price, so if you shoot zero video I could see those guys rather paying a little bit less). And he doesn't even bring up that they left out crop mode for video on a wildlife camera. Or proffer and excuse for why the 1080p is still soft and waxy and mushy.
And then he says that he didn't even bother to really try to push the AF at all. Just useless shill talk.
The one good thing is that it seems clear that Canon IS well aware of the forums and all the people going on about 4k and general 1080p video quality and wonders about if they will ever go to new sensor fabs and such.
All THAT said though, for sources who do tend to tell it like it is and not come across as corporate shills, they, or at least the one so far and other semi-so, are saying VERY good things about the AF so far (seemingly better than both 1D4 and 5D3 AF, at least for some things) and they do say that the IQ is definitely better than on the original 7D. I'm sure it will be a sports and especially wildlife beast for stills. Nothing else has the combo of the AF, speed and reach (and it has small size too).
And then he says that he didn't even bother to really try to push the AF at all. Just useless shill talk.
The one good thing is that it seems clear that Canon IS well aware of the forums and all the people going on about 4k and general 1080p video quality and wonders about if they will ever go to new sensor fabs and such.
All THAT said though, for sources who do tend to tell it like it is and not come across as corporate shills, they, or at least the one so far and other semi-so, are saying VERY good things about the AF so far (seemingly better than both 1D4 and 5D3 AF, at least for some things) and they do say that the IQ is definitely better than on the original 7D. I'm sure it will be a sports and especially wildlife beast for stills. Nothing else has the combo of the AF, speed and reach (and it has small size too).
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