This camera is really starting to look good. I think we may have a winner here.... This could be the ultimate birding camera... Wow
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Canon 7D Mark II Owners first thoughts
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garyknrd said:
Yep, impressed. Just found the time to shoot a few hand held shots late this afternoon, with out of the box settings and a Tamron 150-600.
Seems like LR5 doesn't support it yet so I guess I will have to learn the new DPP.
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canon1dxman said:
If you prefer to LR just zero out all settings in DPP including ALO and NR. If you have a Canon lens using the DLO, lens optimizer, is a good way to go then convert to TIFF and process away in LR. You will probably spend less time this way and be happier as LR is more useful than DPP 4.1 IMO.
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I can't lie y'all. I really like this camera...a lot! It does focus fast and it tracks well. It's going to be a great sports camera for me and with the ISO improvement over the 7D, it's gonna be perfect for baseball. I believe I just found my camera for the next three years (unless I get some great deal with a 1DX and find some supertelephoto lenses that fell off a truck).
I am no wildlife photographer. I just like shooting ducks and birds and I don't know how to track em that well but the 7D II helped me get some decent shots. If you want to give me pointers go ahead, that'll be cool. If you're gonna be an abrasive jerk then I'll just ignore it because it's pointless and doesn't benefit anyone here.
I am no wildlife photographer. I just like shooting ducks and birds and I don't know how to track em that well but the 7D II helped me get some decent shots. If you want to give me pointers go ahead, that'll be cool. If you're gonna be an abrasive jerk then I'll just ignore it because it's pointless and doesn't benefit anyone here.
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Please everyone who posts images here state whether they are 100% crops or downsized and what the iso and other settings are. Without that information and some idea of the processing we can't evaluate the camera.
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I uploaded some 1600, 3200, and 6400 ISO RAW files that I took after work. The light was low and the shots are less than stellar, but they are good enough for evaluation. The zip is 267MB.
Link:
https://mega.co.nz/#!sN52kQ4T!EQQ9WSOzPqJp8Wc5nxyW-xqmo3sXGObWO0p8RCGazNo
My take on the camera is that it is wicked fast compared to my 5D3. The shots are not as sharp as the 5D3. The noise is much more controlled than my 60D. The camera shutter sound is really quiet, which is wonderful. With Lexar 1066x CF cards, I get about 30 RAW shots before the buffer kicks in, and the buffer processes very quickly in 2 shot bursts thereafter.
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A few more observations: When I say it is wicked fast compared to the 5D3, I meant the 10fps vs. 6fps. The extra 4 fps really make a big difference. The speed of the camera when you turn it on is not noticeably faster than the 5D3, but is noticeably faster than the 60D or 5D2. The menus, look, and build quality are all excellent, although nothing stands out (i.e. it's not obvious whether the 7D2 or 5D3 has the better weather sealing). That said, the memory card compartment sealing is noticeably better than the 5D3, 5D2 (terrible!), and 60D. The buttons are softer than (and quality wise, on par with) the 5D3, but much better quality than the 60D. The inputs on the side of the camera (e.g., mini USB) have a new, nice cover that is easy to open when compared to the 5D3, 5D2, and 60D. The viewfinder seems bright. The AF layout in the menus appeared similar to the 5D3. The Zone AF includes a new mode (in comparison to my 5D3) that is larger in frame size than the Zone AF in my 5D3, which will be very helpful when acquiring and tracking birds in flight. I didn't get much opportunity to track moving subjects, but it seemed to keep up well with the birds that I tracked and appeared to be as good as the 5D3 AF system. I did not notice a difference in noise between the 1600-6400 ISO shots. It's probably there, but it's a lot less evident than it is with the 60D. The image quality is distinctly Canon in its rendering. If you are looking for something different, this is not it.
Overall, my take it is that it is a big upgrade from a 60D and Rebels in every way imaginable. The image quality is not on par with the 5D3, IMO. (Please don't harangue me for this statement, fanboys. My Fuji crop is on par with my 5D3 in image quality.) Specifically, the shots seem soft and I don't think that if I cropped the 5D3 shots that I would necessarily get a sharper image from the 7D2. That said, the 10fps and fast-and-quiet default shutter are a definite upgrade from the 5D3 (which has a "quiet" mode, but the fps drops a lot).
Link:
https://mega.co.nz/#!sN52kQ4T!EQQ9WSOzPqJp8Wc5nxyW-xqmo3sXGObWO0p8RCGazNo
My take on the camera is that it is wicked fast compared to my 5D3. The shots are not as sharp as the 5D3. The noise is much more controlled than my 60D. The camera shutter sound is really quiet, which is wonderful. With Lexar 1066x CF cards, I get about 30 RAW shots before the buffer kicks in, and the buffer processes very quickly in 2 shot bursts thereafter.
EDIT:
A few more observations: When I say it is wicked fast compared to the 5D3, I meant the 10fps vs. 6fps. The extra 4 fps really make a big difference. The speed of the camera when you turn it on is not noticeably faster than the 5D3, but is noticeably faster than the 60D or 5D2. The menus, look, and build quality are all excellent, although nothing stands out (i.e. it's not obvious whether the 7D2 or 5D3 has the better weather sealing). That said, the memory card compartment sealing is noticeably better than the 5D3, 5D2 (terrible!), and 60D. The buttons are softer than (and quality wise, on par with) the 5D3, but much better quality than the 60D. The inputs on the side of the camera (e.g., mini USB) have a new, nice cover that is easy to open when compared to the 5D3, 5D2, and 60D. The viewfinder seems bright. The AF layout in the menus appeared similar to the 5D3. The Zone AF includes a new mode (in comparison to my 5D3) that is larger in frame size than the Zone AF in my 5D3, which will be very helpful when acquiring and tracking birds in flight. I didn't get much opportunity to track moving subjects, but it seemed to keep up well with the birds that I tracked and appeared to be as good as the 5D3 AF system. I did not notice a difference in noise between the 1600-6400 ISO shots. It's probably there, but it's a lot less evident than it is with the 60D. The image quality is distinctly Canon in its rendering. If you are looking for something different, this is not it.
Overall, my take it is that it is a big upgrade from a 60D and Rebels in every way imaginable. The image quality is not on par with the 5D3, IMO. (Please don't harangue me for this statement, fanboys. My Fuji crop is on par with my 5D3 in image quality.) Specifically, the shots seem soft and I don't think that if I cropped the 5D3 shots that I would necessarily get a sharper image from the 7D2. That said, the 10fps and fast-and-quiet default shutter are a definite upgrade from the 5D3 (which has a "quiet" mode, but the fps drops a lot).
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I'd love to see how well the 7D2 dual-pixel AF system tracks moving subjects (moving to or from the camera) in video mode, at relatively long focal lengths (say, 100-400mm). I'm particularly interested in shooting video of very high speed model and full-scale airplanes (models are way, way harder) so tracking medium sized birds would be similar in some ways. I'm interested in how it does stopped down to, say, f/8 or f/11 too.
According to the manual, face mode will work for non-faces (manual, page 301), "Focusing on a subject other than a human face" if you get the AF frame on the desired subject, from whence it will track it across the frame.
Anyone up for trying that out? I'd really appreciate feedback on that functionality.
According to the manual, face mode will work for non-faces (manual, page 301), "Focusing on a subject other than a human face" if you get the AF frame on the desired subject, from whence it will track it across the frame.
Anyone up for trying that out? I'd really appreciate feedback on that functionality.
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I received my 7DII today, I took an hour off in the afternoon to stop by lake Washington to try it on some birds. Weather was mostly cloudy with some on and off drizzle - typical Seattle weather this time of the year.
The camera felt very solidly built. The buttons and controls are laid out the same way as 5DIII which made it easy to use. Focusing was wicked fast, at least as fast as 5DIII. Tracking large to medium size birds at f/4 worked really well. Noise wasn't as good as 5DIII, but that to be expected from an APS-C camera; however, it is much better than 60D & 7D. The AF mode lever was a bit stiff to use to switch between focusing modes, maybe it needs some break in. The shutter release is noticeably quieter than 5DIII which is great.
The camera felt very solidly built. The buttons and controls are laid out the same way as 5DIII which made it easy to use. Focusing was wicked fast, at least as fast as 5DIII. Tracking large to medium size birds at f/4 worked really well. Noise wasn't as good as 5DIII, but that to be expected from an APS-C camera; however, it is much better than 60D & 7D. The AF mode lever was a bit stiff to use to switch between focusing modes, maybe it needs some break in. The shutter release is noticeably quieter than 5DIII which is great.
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Picked up a Canon 7D mark 2 today. As a fight photographer using a Canon 1Dx, I am very happy with the camera and the results.
I used the camera with a Canon 24-70mm f/2.8L II at a Muay Thai demo tonight.
Menu system, ergonomics, using the camera, and the results were very familiar. Felt like I was shooting with the 1Dx.
Since Adobe doesn't have an update for the Canon 7Dm2 yet, I shot Raw to CF and Jpeg to SD, which slowed down the buffer a bit. Not sure if this is the same problem as the 5Dm3 where the SD card slot shortens the buffer (if I remember correctly). I'm used to the 1Dx 32 RAW buffer so the difference was new to me.
Here's a Jpeg sample straight out of camera (added watermark). IMO, it's quite good for a jpeg.
The Canon 7Dm2 is definitely a good backup to my 1Dx. I can still comfortably shoot weddings and events with this no problem. I can see why Scott Kelby likes this camera so much.
I used the camera with a Canon 24-70mm f/2.8L II at a Muay Thai demo tonight.
Menu system, ergonomics, using the camera, and the results were very familiar. Felt like I was shooting with the 1Dx.
Since Adobe doesn't have an update for the Canon 7Dm2 yet, I shot Raw to CF and Jpeg to SD, which slowed down the buffer a bit. Not sure if this is the same problem as the 5Dm3 where the SD card slot shortens the buffer (if I remember correctly). I'm used to the 1Dx 32 RAW buffer so the difference was new to me.
Here's a Jpeg sample straight out of camera (added watermark). IMO, it's quite good for a jpeg.
The Canon 7Dm2 is definitely a good backup to my 1Dx. I can still comfortably shoot weddings and events with this no problem. I can see why Scott Kelby likes this camera so much.
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thericyip said:Picked up a Canon 7D mark 2 today. As a fight photographer using a Canon 1Dx, I am very happy with the camera and the results.
I used the camera with a Canon 24-70mm f/2.8L II at a Muay Thai demo tonight.
Menu system, ergonomics, using the camera, and the results were very familiar. Felt like I was shooting with the 1Dx.
Since Adobe doesn't have an update for the Canon 7Dm2 yet, I shot Raw to CF and Jpeg to SD, which slowed down the buffer a bit. Not sure if this is the same problem as the 5Dm3 where the SD card slot shortens the buffer (if I remember correctly). I'm used to the 1Dx 32 RAW buffer so the difference was new to me.
Here's a Jpeg sample straight out of camera (added watermark). IMO, it's quite good for a jpeg.
The Canon 7Dm2 is definitely a good backup to my 1Dx. I can still comfortably shoot weddings and events with this no problem. I can see why Scott Kelby likes this camera so much.
@3200 ISO it is not bad. Not bad at all. Was NR in camera applied?
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Got mine yesterday morning. One day shipment from amazon.
Noticed that viewfinder on 7D is much brighter than the viewfinder on my 60D. Substantial difference in method of navigating through Menu and submenus.
Spent most of the day getting familiar with new setup. Especially back button focus.
Full instruction manual found on CD. Only basic manual shipped with camera.
Camera has a good feel. Shutter sounds loud.
Only way to distinguish 6N battery from 6 battery is to turn it over and look for little N on reverse. I marked my new 6N battery with white paint to tell it from 6 battery from my 60D.
Weather here yesterday was delightful. Snow and 40 mph gusts. Not a day to be shooting outdoor with new camera.
Noticed that viewfinder on 7D is much brighter than the viewfinder on my 60D. Substantial difference in method of navigating through Menu and submenus.
Spent most of the day getting familiar with new setup. Especially back button focus.
Full instruction manual found on CD. Only basic manual shipped with camera.
Camera has a good feel. Shutter sounds loud.
Only way to distinguish 6N battery from 6 battery is to turn it over and look for little N on reverse. I marked my new 6N battery with white paint to tell it from 6 battery from my 60D.
Weather here yesterday was delightful. Snow and 40 mph gusts. Not a day to be shooting outdoor with new camera.
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Thanks for sharing!thericyip said:Picked up a Canon 7D mark 2 today. As a fight photographer using a Canon 1Dx, I am very happy with the camera and the results.
I used the camera with a Canon 24-70mm f/2.8L II at a Muay Thai demo tonight.
Menu system, ergonomics, using the camera, and the results were very familiar. Felt like I was shooting with the 1Dx.
Since Adobe doesn't have an update for the Canon 7Dm2 yet, I shot Raw to CF and Jpeg to SD, which slowed down the buffer a bit. Not sure if this is the same problem as the 5Dm3 where the SD card slot shortens the buffer (if I remember correctly). I'm used to the 1Dx 32 RAW buffer so the difference was new to me.
Here's a Jpeg sample straight out of camera (added watermark). IMO, it's quite good for a jpeg.
The Canon 7Dm2 is definitely a good backup to my 1Dx. I can still comfortably shoot weddings and events with this no problem. I can see why Scott Kelby likes this camera so much.
This looks promising, even if its a downsized JPG. Seems to treat skin tones well without any overlaid colour casts.
Did the difference between this 7D Mark II and the 1D X make you do anything different, or did you shoot it as if they were the same?
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Got mine yesterday morning. One day shipment from amazon.
Noticed that viewfinder on 7D is much brighter than the viewfinder on my 60D. Substantial difference in method of navigating through Menu and submenus.
Spent most of Friday getting familiar with new setup. Especially back button focus.
Full instruction manual found on CD. Only basic manual shipped with camera.
Camera has a good feel. Shutter sounds loud.
Only way to distinguish 6N battery from 6 battery is to turn it over and look for little N on reverse. I marked my new 6N battery with white paint to tell it from 6 battery from my 60D.
Weather here yesterday was delightful. Snow and 40 mph gusts. Not a day to be shooting outdoor with new camera.
Noticed that viewfinder on 7D is much brighter than the viewfinder on my 60D. Substantial difference in method of navigating through Menu and submenus.
Spent most of Friday getting familiar with new setup. Especially back button focus.
Full instruction manual found on CD. Only basic manual shipped with camera.
Camera has a good feel. Shutter sounds loud.
Only way to distinguish 6N battery from 6 battery is to turn it over and look for little N on reverse. I marked my new 6N battery with white paint to tell it from 6 battery from my 60D.
Weather here yesterday was delightful. Snow and 40 mph gusts. Not a day to be shooting outdoor with new camera.
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Handheld with Tamron 150-600 last night 6400 ASA
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https://flic.kr/p/pBjoC2https://www.flickr.com/people/90892306@N05/
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I think he was right. With 5D3 you can generally have faster shutter speeds with same IQ. That's a priority when dealing with fast movement action like that. Maybe someone else can advise on what shutter speeds you need for freezing action in this situation.Sportsgal501 said:
7D2 will be just as good or better only if lighting will be strong enough.
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