Ah, another thread with the usual suspects believing that their personal wants are representative of a market segment that is of high importance to Canon. The fact that the xxD series, 5-series and even the 1D X were updated more frequently than the 7-series doesn’t seem to impinge on their consciousness. They wants it, Precious, and they must haves it, Gollum, Gollum.
Best to not get into it, given that your understanding of the concepts is evidently flawed.
Yes, an option could be a full frame version of the M200 for instance. Would definitely be the lightest and smallest FF body on the market then and perhaps be a introduction into the R mount ecosystem from camera phone users... but the jpeg/HEIF engine would need to match what current iPhone/Andriod phones can produce (in auto mode). Users can use other modes when they understand the differences to auto.
Sigma has the tiny full frame I would like to see alongside my R5 or its gripped successor.
My guess is that they would come out at the exact same time.
If I recall correctly, Canon seemed to have indicated that there were to be 2 bodies below the R6. Given that this $799 would be one, then the other would be a sort of R replacement. My speculation would be that this would have the R5/6 AF system, kept at 30mp, and priced around $1700-1800. When this is introduced, it will leave some time for the remaining stock of R6 to be cleared off before a R6 Mark II (stacked sensor? higher fps? more video features? 30-36mp?) surfaces. If this becomes a reality, then the line-up of RF cameras would achieve better coherence in terms of their relative positionings, resolving buying conflicts/considerations between the current R & R6.And a huge hole too.
Of course they could fill it by just keeping the R in the lineup, as it's still a great camera. I do agree that eventually they may slot something between the entry level body/bodies and the R6, but I don't see them in any hurry as the current R fills the need pretty well. The problem, as I see it, is that the R is equal to or better than the R6 in some respects (most notably the 30mp sensor) and the features that would need to be shed for a replacement to fit in under the R6 are already not on the R (IBIS and dual card slot) so I'm not sure what a new model would have/not have that isn't already met by the R.
Sorry if I was unclear. This rumor is an $800 FF MILC. The implied claim was that this camera and the M line could not coexist for long.
People who seek a crop sensor do so not just for the body but for a system. A lighter body with lighter (cheaper) lenses is what they seek.
And what doesn’t the M system already do for those people?
I do not know about the M system at all Private. In anycase, my comment stays logical. My statement is a broad one. Btw if the M system exists, does that mean the crop crowd does not deserve a new system?
And that is a large part of the problem with threads here, why anthropomorphize corporate decision making, what does ‘deserve’ have to do with anything?
2 different camps for APS-C and I think that you are mixing them up. Rebel style APS-C (cheap/small) and 7Dii (much more expensive, dual card, AF, fps). These marketing segments are completely separated by Canon already (see my post above yours). It seems like you want a R6 body with higher pixel density like reusing the 90D/M6ii sensor. Don't expect a new sensor though with R6 AF/fps performance though. You would be a small subset of potential R6 buyers.
I agree with your premise but you can't use the RF800 with the M series. If you mean M series for cheap/small (or M + EF white lenses for reach) OR any of the R bodies + RF800mm then I concur.
Agree completely. That’s free market economics. While a market space (or “niche”) like APS-C might be too small for a big player like Canon, other companies like Sony and Fuji might find it worth their investment.
