Canon announces even more supply shortages

[Del Paso]

They won't even take your order if you don't look rich enough. At least Canon doesn't discriminate.

Not that I'd ever wear a Rolex, I think they look gaudy.

Never met a Rolex dealer who does ask about your fortune or lack of to accept or not accept an order. Even if you don't buy the watch you "ordered", someone else will be happy to jump in.
This would be plain silly, just like judging somebody on his appearance.
I remember a business guest of mine who came by wearing bermudas and a cheap t-shirt. I didn't know him, took care of him for a few hours because a colleague was ill. And learnt afterwards this inconspicuous and very friendly guest was the owner of the five-master printed on his t-shirt, and that he came by in order to pick up a V12 limousine + a V12 convertible for his wife, and, if I remember well, an extremely expensive 4X4.
Asking a would-be customer about his wealth is the surest way to lose him...

 

[P-visie]

Expanding capacities in uncertain times represents a huge risk.
Who knows how the camera market will develop (or shrink) the next few years?
Overcapacity means machines - and employees - standing still, while costing boatloads of money.
Anyway, I'm really happy today, my RF 15-35 was delivered, tested and more than approved. I found it much sharper at 35 mm than the EF equivalent.
(Sorry for this off-topic digression, but I'm a happy bunny ). And waiting for the R5 II.

Some items have long leadtimes, so if your forecast is too low, you have to wait a very long time before a supplier can make up for the shortage.
And production capacity (and thus output) is limited by the production resource that has the lowest output. Increasing capacity elsewhere in the production/ supply chain will not increase output.

As @koenkooi stated, some luck is also involved. The RF 200-800mm is in stock at some stores in NL, while you have to wait for months in other stores.

Have fun with your RF15-35mm.

 

[Del Paso]

Some items have long leadtimes, so if your forecast is too low, you have to wait a very long time before a supplier can make up for the shortage.
And production capacity (and thus output) is limited by the production resource that has the lowest output. Increasing capacity elsewhere in the production/ supply chain will not increase output.

As @koenkooi stated, some luck is also involved. The RF 200-800mm is in stock at some stores in NL, while you have to wait for months in other stores.

Have fun with your RF15-35mm.

Thanks! I'm deeply impressed with it !
I bought it for my lightweight Japan kit (R5 II, 15-35, 50, 85, 24 TS, 70-200 + ext 1,4X. Since I'll be carrying my backpack 10-12 hours every single day, I needed something lighter than my usual hiking equipment (2 bodies, 6-9 lenses...). With the R5 II, I'll be able to crop the tele shots a bit more, compensating for the lack of a longe focal.
Maybe I'll replace the 70-200 f/4 with my EF 100-400L, and take a second body ?

 

[P-visie]

Thanks! I'm deeply impressed with it !
I bought it for my lightweight Japan kit (R5 II, 15-35, 50, 85, 24 TS, 70-200 + ext 1,4X. Since I'll be carrying my backpack 10-12 hours every single day, I needed something lighter than my usual hiking equipment (2 bodies, 6-9 lenses...). With the R5 II, I'll be able to crop the tele shots a bit more, compensating for the lack of a longe focal.
Maybe I'll replace the 70-200 f/4 with my EF 100-400L, and take a second body ?

I don’t want to get you in trouble with your wife, but I would take the RF 100-500mm and leave the 70-200, 1.4 extender and 100-400mm at home. You can rent the RF 100-500mm or buy one (don’t tell your wife, all white lenses look alike, so you can always tell her it’s your 100-400mm ). Biggest danger of renting one is that you’ll buy one once you’ve used one. And I would definitely take a second body on such a trip.

 

[Berowne]

Never met a Rolex dealer who does ask about your fortune or lack of to accept or not accept an order. Even if you don't buy the watch you "ordered", someone else will be happy to jump in.
This would be plain silly, just like judging somebody on his appearance.
I remember a business guest of mine who came by wearing bermudas and a cheap t-shirt. I didn't know him, took care of him for a few hours because a colleague was ill. And learnt afterwards this inconspicuous and very friendly guest was the owner of the five-master printed on his t-shirt, and that he came by in order to pick up a V12 limousine + a V12 convertible for his wife, and, if I remember well, an extremely expensive 4X4.
Asking a would-be customer about his wealth is the surest way to lose him...

SL 65s and G-Class, i guess

 

[Del Paso]

SL 65s and G-Class, i guess

S Class, SL and AMG G ...
A nice little collection!

 

[Del Paso]

I don’t want to get you in trouble with your wife, but I would take the RF 100-500mm and leave the 70-200, 1.4 extender and 100-400mm at home. You can rent the RF 100-500mm or buy one (don’t tell your wife, all white lenses look alike, so you can always tell her it’s your 100-400mm ). Biggest danger of renting one is that you’ll buy one once you’ve used one. And I would definitely take a second body on such a trip.

No second body. If the R 5 II goes kaput, it will be easy to buy a replacement in Japan. Maybe I'll let my old EOS R in my luggage?
And I see no reason why I should replace the EF 100-400 with the RF 100-500, optically there won't be much of a difference. I love this lens!
Anyway, I'd like to travel light, therefore, the 70-200 + Ext 1,4 will have to suffice. 12 kilos (+ food, rain protection etc,,,) on the shoulders is ok in the mountains, less in cities. At least not all day long. Big lenses require a bigger backpack. And there are also on board restrictions...
My wife, by the way, doesn't even see a difference between a Leica M and an EOS 5 DIV...Both are cameras and both are black.

 

[Berowne]

S Class, SL and AMG G ...
A nice little collection!

For the Money you can also have a nice watch

 

[jam05]

Many of those that claimed they would pass have changed their minds. Especially after seeing the performance in Paris. The photogs in Paris are using both cameras. Expectedly. Albbeit for different applications.

 

[AlanF]

No second body. If the R 5 II goes kaput, it will be easy to buy a replacement in Japan. Maybe I'll let my old EOS R in my luggage?
And I see no reason why I should replace the EF 100-400 with the RF 100-500, optically there won't be much of a difference. I love this lens!
Anyway, I'd like to travel light, therefore, the 70-200 + Ext 1,4 will have to suffice. 12 kilos (+ food, rain protection etc,,,) on the shoulders is ok in the mountains, less in cities. At least not all day long. Big lenses require a bigger backpack. And there are also on board restrictions...
My wife, by the way, doesn't even see a difference between a Leica M and an EOS 5 DIV...Both are cameras and both are black.

I bought my wife the R7 and RF 100-400mm (she used to have the 5DSR + EF 100-400mm II when I had the 5Div + 400mm DO II + TCs but we were both younger then). Try the same - set it up for her with standard settings in C1, C2 and C3, and she might take to it. The R5 + RF 100-500mm + iPhone is about as much I am comfortable with for a longer hike now, though I will take the 200-800mm on shorter ones.

 

[Del Paso]

I bought my wife the R7 and RF 100-400mm (she used to have the 5DSR + EF 100-400mm II when I had the 5Div + 400mm DO II + TCs but we were both younger then). Try the same - set it up for her with standard settings in C1, C2 and C3, and she might take to it. The R5 + RF 100-500mm + iPhone is about as much I am comfortable with for a longer hike now, though I will take the 200-800mm on shorter ones.

Nice suggestion!
But no chance, my wife hates anything heavier than her small smartphone. The maximum she would maybe carry, with persuasion and bribery, is the R7 + RF 28 pancake. Preferably without battery, lensshade, eyepiece and SD...
Yet, you gave me a very good idea. I could buy an R7, giving me a longer range with the 70-200 and also serve as a usable backup.

 

[TwoWheeler]

Expanding capacities in uncertain times represents a huge risk.
Who knows how the camera market will develop (or shrink) the next few years?

Just ask the cycling industry. During the pandemic, everyone and their monkey wanted bikes. There were massive shortages, so the OEMs feverishly ramped up production…

…and now that things are back to what passes for normal, they are stuck with massive inventory they can’t unload. They’re slashing prices and personnel - and many have gone under.

 

[neurorx]

Given the rumor a few days ago that said that pre-orders for the R5M2 would be completed in the first 3 weeks after August 20, does this mean that those who didn't preorder might see delays? or is the status just unclear?

 

[Navism]

Rkii first week in Japan.

 

[Del Paso]

Just ask the cycling industry. During the pandemic, everyone and their monkey wanted bikes. There were massive shortages, so the OEMs feverishly ramped up production…

…and now that things are back to what passes for normal, they are stuck with massive inventory they can’t unload. They’re slashing prices and personnel - and many have gone under.

Absolutely correct,!
This is a market I know quite well, my son rides a Commencal V5 and a Santa V10. I remember times when even trivial parts like chains were not available. It took him almost a year to get his Michelin DH 22 and 34 tires. Now, prices are down, as you justly wrote, many well established companies went bankrupt or were sold to bigger ones. Sadly, this affects their loyal employees as well.

 

[koenkooi]

Absolutely correct,!
This is a market I know quite well, my son rides a Commencal V5 and a Santa V10. I remember times when even trivial parts like chains were not available. It took him almost a year to get his Michelin DH 22 and 34 tires. Now, prices are down, as you justly wrote, many well established companies went bankrupt or were sold to bigger ones. Sadly, this affects their loyal employees as well.

You’d be surprised how many ‘small’ companies have had a megacorp as silent partner for years.
The relatively small bike manufacturer in town has been owned by the Accell group for a while now. If you’re into beer, the big 2 have been buying up 2-beards-and-a-dog breweries, silently. The breweries get a financial injection and access to the logistics department, so they have an easier time getting their product to pubs across the country. And Inbev/Heineken gets market research basically for free.
And you get to enjoy smiling at people saying “this is so much better than that inbev piss”!

The accell group is in trouble as well, they didn’t ramp down production in time, so lots of bikes in stock that aren’t selling.

 

[Del Paso]

You’d be surprised how many ‘small’ companies have had a megacorp as silent partner for years.
The relatively small bike manufacturer in town has been owned by the Accell group for a while now. If you’re into beer, the big 2 have been buying up 2-beards-and-a-dog breweries, silently. The breweries get a financial injection and access to the logistics department, so they have an easier time getting their product to pubs across the country. And Inbev/Heineken gets market research basically for free.
And you get to enjoy smiling at people saying “this is so much better than that inbev piss”!

The accell group is in trouble as well, they didn’t ramp down production in time, so lots of bikes in stock that aren’t selling.

Interesting!
I knew what you said about bike companies. Yet, I meant the smaller, still independent ones, which are now fighting for survival. Accell still is poison!
As to breweries, I was born 200 meters from the Kronenbourg brewery, which back then, still produced in the Strasbourg suburb adequately named Cronenbourg. Worked for them as a student.
It is not always true that all Inbev/Heineken subsidiaries produce catpiss, though most of them indeed do so. But I was positively surprised at the growing number of independent micro breweries (more than a 100 in Alsace alone!). One of the best craftbeers I enjoyed was in Boulder City! Bud and Coors are a different story, "subcatpiss" beverages...In the UK too, I noticed a raise in quality. And what to say of the world's best beers from Belgium, of course?
If I didn't mention Germany, it's because I find most beers far too standardized to be really recommendable (thanks, Inbev/Heineken); though there is a growing number of excellent craft beers.
Sorry for the offtopicism...

 

[Del Paso]

For the Money you can also have a nice watch

Depends...

 

[Del Paso]

Depends... Did you take a look at the Patek Philippe price list recently?

 

[dafrank]

Expanding capacities in uncertain times represents a huge risk.
Who knows how the camera market will develop (or shrink) the next few years?
Overcapacity means machines - and employees - standing still, while costing boatloads of money.
Anyway, I'm really happy today, my RF 15-35 was delivered, tested and more than approved. I found it much sharper at 35 mm than the EF equivalent.
(Sorry for this off-topic digression, but I'm a happy bunny ). And waiting for the R5 II.

I agree about capacity 100%. Canon was faced with sales declines all through Covid and cell phone hegemony and had to have had excess production capacity that has subsequently been reduced. I’m quite sure they are very wary of increasing capacity now, instead just trying to offer higher content per unit at higher prices to regain higher levels of profitability. Until there appears to be a sustained market expansion in the mid and high end photo gear market, there will likely continue to be these shortages with longer availability timing.