Canon Announces the Canon EOS 6D DSLR
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Ricku said:DP-Review are not happy about it.
Quote: "Overall, though, it's difficult to shake the feeling that the EOS 6D simply lacks the 'wow' factor of its main rival. Whereas Nikon seems to have taken the approach of taking away as little as possible from D800 when creating the D600, Canon appears almost to have gone the other way, removing as much as it thinks it can get away with at the price. The result is the kind of conservative, slightly unimaginative design that's become the company's hallmark."
Source: http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canon-eos-6d/6
DPReview's summary is spot on. The fact is that Canon's probably right that the target audience won't need a fancy AF system, fast continuous burst rate, dual card slots or a 100% viewfinder... But, the main competition is offering these features for the same price and with APS-C upgrader needing to realign their lens collections, the temptation to switch is there.
I can see the price of used 5D MkIIs staying high after this announcement, but perhaps there will be a glut of EF-S lenses on the market and a shortage of Nikkors!
So far, this looks like a very weak offer from Canon -and why have they bothered developing a new 20.2MP sensor, when they already have 18MP and 22MP sensors that are less than a year old?
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I do not understand why most people here think it's bad? It does have AFMA (same AFMA as 5D3, with different MA for wide and tele with zooms). It'll be very good in high ISO's, and have better AF than 5D2. It's very light and a lot less expensive than 5D2 at the time of release. It's not meant as a replacement for a 5D3, it's meant as a modern alternative for a 5D2. The price will drop anyway. AF-points could have been more, but then they would end up with a bigger body and Canon chose not to.
I do not see much point in comparing this with the Nikon D600 as that's a Nikon
. I don't change brands because something else can give me 'more' for the same money. In that case, everyone with a crop would buy the new Pentax K5-II, isn't it?
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I do not see much point in comparing this with the Nikon D600 as that's a Nikon
. I don't change brands because something else can give me 'more' for the same money. In that case, everyone with a crop would buy the new Pentax K5-II, isn't it?Gert
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If you want a nice camera, pay for it.
If you can't afford it, don't bitch about how Canon sold you short or how they should do something like a D600.
Another $1000 and you have a 5D3, get a job, earn some more, save some money and buy what you want rather than hope a manufacturer will give you something for nothing.
If you can't afford it, don't bitch about how Canon sold you short or how they should do something like a D600.
Another $1000 and you have a 5D3, get a job, earn some more, save some money and buy what you want rather than hope a manufacturer will give you something for nothing.
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Why? You don't need 1/8000s for VIDEO work
Why do you need a CF slot or more than 1 memory card slot? A 64Gb SDXC card costs a hundred bucks and is perfect for VIDEO. Anyway all existing REBEL owners already have SD memory cards.
All VIDEO cameras cost more than straight photo ones, just look at 1Dc or C300 or C100??
I bet you any money that EOSHD will be very happy with the 6D, finally a DSLR to give the 'cracked-GH2' a run for its money!
The EOS 6D will outsell the 7D...period. It will become one of Canon's biggest selling digital interchangeable lens cameras of all time
The external audio recorder that the 6D owner will be using already has a headphone jack (no videographer uses the internal mic other than to sync up audio with video in post)
The NIKON D600 will not produce VIDEO @ ISO 12800 anywhere near as good as the EOS 6D (look at the samples already on Canon USA site)
nicku said:the specs list??? it have AFMA??????????????????????????????
http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canon-eos-6d/
looool shutter speed 1/4000((((((
Why? You don't need 1/8000s for VIDEO work
dswatson83 said:
Why do you need a CF slot or more than 1 memory card slot? A 64Gb SDXC card costs a hundred bucks and is perfect for VIDEO. Anyway all existing REBEL owners already have SD memory cards.
bradleyg5 said:
All VIDEO cameras cost more than straight photo ones, just look at 1Dc or C300 or C100??
Ricku said:DP-Review are not happy about it.
Quote: "Overall, though, it's difficult to shake the feeling that the EOS 6D simply lacks the 'wow' factor of its main rival. Whereas Nikon seems to have taken the approach of taking away as little as possible from D800 when creating the D600, Canon appears almost to have gone the other way, removing as much as it thinks it can get away with at the price. The result is the kind of conservative, slightly unimaginative design that's become the company's hallmark."
Source: http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canon-eos-6d/6
I bet you any money that EOSHD will be very happy with the 6D, finally a DSLR to give the 'cracked-GH2' a run for its money!
dilbert said:
The EOS 6D will outsell the 7D...period. It will become one of Canon's biggest selling digital interchangeable lens cameras of all time
hmmm said:
The external audio recorder that the 6D owner will be using already has a headphone jack (no videographer uses the internal mic other than to sync up audio with video in post)
The NIKON D600 will not produce VIDEO @ ISO 12800 anywhere near as good as the EOS 6D (look at the samples already on Canon USA site)
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Oh thank goodness we got some Nikon posts on the first page. I guess that guy from SoHo was sleeping, but you guys got our back!
I'm gonna go sell all my gear and switch to Nikon now.
So has anyone CONFIRMED that there is no MFA or are we just playing chicken little?
Oh thank goodness we got some Nikon posts on the first page. I guess that guy from SoHo was sleeping, but you guys got our back!
I'm gonna go sell all my gear and switch to Nikon now.
So has anyone CONFIRMED that there is no MFA or are we just playing chicken little?
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Canon's priority is how not to let Canon A hurt the sale of Canon B or vice versa, so they ended up crippling both products. Nikon's priority is how to beat Canon hands down and that's where innovation comes in. We've seen RIM going down, and we've seen how Miscrosoft hasn't wowed the world for a long time. Arrogance plus lack of innovation. Really disappointed!
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A deal breaker for me is the lack of a proper thumb joystick in the upper back area- I like to change the focus point directly without taking my eye away from the viewfinder. The back looks like a 60D without the flippy screen!
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bradleyg5 said:
Canon's pricing policy is pure MARKETING GENIUS....
........any xxD or xxxD owner will aspire to owning a 6D.... the higher initial entry price for the 6D will ensure (listen to the voices on CR over the last 12 hours as proof) that those serious amateur enthusiasts (incl. 7D owners) will now pony up the extra for a 5D3.....
.... meanwhile lots of budding videographers (look at the Canon 6D Press Release - it mentions 3 categories of user: PHOTOGRAPHERS, VIDEOGRAPHERS & CINEMATOGRAPHERS - 2 out of 3 are video users) will happily pay 2 grand for a FF DSLR video cam with low-light capability as well as compatibility with the new STM lenses
.... read the threads on this forum re. 6D, commentators have polarized into 2 distinct groups:
(1) those who have their credit cards out and cannot wait till October to get their hands on a 6D
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(2) those who think its awful and the disappointment is enough to finally trigger their 5D3 purchase
As a 7D owner I wouldn't buy a 6D, but I'm glad that Canon has just protected the residual value of my 7D with their inane pricing strategy
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I saw one pro taking pictures in Bristol Night Race with this:
http://www.dpreview.com/search/?query=1d%20ma&product=canon_eos1dmkiin
Looked his pictures afterwards, no complaints.
Why complain about this camera you have not seen picture samples from real life?
Take pictures with what you already have and gain more experience taking great pictures.
If camera is too expensive for you, buy one you can afford with good lens(es) and start taking pictures.
http://www.dpreview.com/search/?query=1d%20ma&product=canon_eos1dmkiin
Looked his pictures afterwards, no complaints.
Why complain about this camera you have not seen picture samples from real life?
Take pictures with what you already have and gain more experience taking great pictures.
If camera is too expensive for you, buy one you can afford with good lens(es) and start taking pictures.
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Well the low rent autofocus system and a top shutter speed less than my current 50D have put my wallet right back in my pocket. I have $2,600 burning a hole in my pocket and I don't think this camera is worth what they are asking. It really looks like they took out as much stuff as possible and hope the "full frame" would sell it. Disappointment. In another 6 months I'll be able to afford a 5D3. I think that is the way to go
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Lame. No innovations on either still or motion fronts. If canon continues at this rate they will lose huge market share. I never understand why the little guys are the ones left to do the innovating when the big guys are the ones with enough capital for some serious R&D work. Maybe they are happy selling millions of crappy point and shoots to teenage girls.
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heron88 said:
What sort of innovations were you hoping for? Canon did change everything with the 5D and 5D II, give them a break. Or switch to something else, you are free to do so. It's a company, not make a wish foundation, they here to make money, not cater to all sorts of weird ass needs on less than a mid-range product. I'll probably get one, I think. I'd like a full frame camera, but not enough to get the 5D III.
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Okay, so nonstop complaining aside, here's a thought:
Wouldn't it have made sense to release an "L" version of an STM lens with this?
Wouldn't it have made sense to release an "L" version of an STM lens with this?
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RuneL said:
Give them a break?? Giving them a break is saying "alright, you deserve a break, don't come to work tomorrow, and actually don't come back at all, we don't need someone who isn't innovative or can't provide people with their needs".
Yes, Canon did a lot with the DSLR world through the 5D and Mk2, so naturally there's the eager anticipation for something huge. Now, an "entry-leve FF" by Nikon provides high IQ uncompressed video and great features all around, and the overall is fantastic compared to the 6D, and that's with Nikon users complaining about what the D600 is lacking in...
Why are you defending a major corporation? Sure they're here to make money and they can do what they want, but that doesn't mean users can't express their dissatisfaction.
And weird needs?? In the digital world your "I want FF" is a weird need so what are you talking about?
Personally, I think GPS and Wifi are weird and unnecessary, I see the benefit users can have with them in workflow and connectivity, but think they're bells on an underperforming and overpriced device.
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