Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II [CR2]

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EYEONE said:
Weight is not an issue to me nor size really. Though the current model is a beast. What I really want from the Mk II version is more sharpness. The original is fine, nothing outstanding. Nothing that will blow your mind like the 70-200mm f2.8 IS II. I walked around London for several days with the 24-70 on a 7D. I pretty much kept it stopped down to F6.3-8 the whole time since i was mainly doing architecture shots. It was pretty razor sharp but being sharp at f8 isn't really impressive. I've used it for weddings at f2.8 and it performs well enough however.

I like seeing this lens without IS. I have no good reason for saying so. I don't think it would add much to cost or weight to include IS. I just don't think the focal range justifies IS and I like to see that Canon realizes that. If you are a videographer this really isn't a ideal lens for you anyway.

I have thought about getting the 24/1.4 L for the IQ but have decided to wait for the new 24-70 instead. I already have the 24-105 (which I will probably sell if I get the new 24-70) so I have the range covered just not the IQ at that range. I hope when the 24-70 comes out it will compete with the 24 L in IQ.
 
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bigblue1ca said:
Stone said:
Weight is simply not an issue for alot of us.....

I agree, I'd take the added weight for the internal zoom and IS. I carry my 70-200 with no problems.

While weight is an issue for me in general, I would for sure take extra weight if I could have this lens with IS. But I know it is not going to happen! One thing does seem to be sure now is it seem emminent that it will be announced by March or so.

If it was offered as a kit with the 5DmkIII as mentionned it would be a plus. Too bad the 1 series does not offer kit lens! WOuld have been a great buy with the 1DX!

:P
 
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candyman said:
Less heavy & shorter is very nice.
And what about the IQ and other possible improvements?

Shorter and lighter would be very nice, after a day walking about with the current 24-70mm on a gripped 5DmkII hanging off my neck I feel some aches and pains...maybe I just need to work out more ::)

For me the internal zoom or IS doesnt matter so much. Aesthetically I don't like the look of the external zoom, but I've never (touch wood) had any issues with dust or moisture getting in over it's 4 years of use, I can see why taking it to Burning man would be scary though.

I appreciate the IS on my 100mm macro and when I am shooting people doing speeches in low light I sometimes wish I had the 70-200mm f2.8L IS II instead of the non IS version, but for my 24-70mm I've never ever felt the need for IS, that's just me though, I know a lot of people would like it.

The IQ improvements are what I am more intereted in hearing about, but I guess we won't know anything for sure until the lens is released and has been tested inthe field.
 
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willrobb said:
I appreciate the IS on my 100mm macro and when I am shooting people doing speeches in low light I sometimes wish I had the 70-200mm f2.8L IS II instead of the non IS version, but for my 24-70mm I've never ever felt the need for IS, that's just me though, I know a lot of people would like it.

The IQ improvements are what I am more intereted in hearing about, but I guess we won't know anything for sure until the lens is released and has been tested inthe field.

In general, I believe the main intended use case for this lens is events or photojournalism. In both these use cases, it is generally necessary to keep shutter speeds fast enough to freeze motion of people walking at moving. That means shooting at shutter speeds which make IS less relevant - generally over 1/80s - which on a full frame body obviates the need for IS. That is probably the rationale used in why this lens most probably will not have IS.
 
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gmrza said:
That is probably the rationale used in why this lens most probably will not have IS.

Also with that kind of lens there is a distinct advantage of having an external zoom: you can design the lens shade more effective.
Sure, some might say you could just mind the suns position, but that sounds rather unintentionally funny in the context of most environments...
 
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willrobb said:
candyman said:
Less heavy & shorter is very nice.
And what about the IQ and other possible improvements?

Shorter and lighter would be very nice, after a day walking about with the current 24-70mm on a gripped 5DmkII hanging off my neck I feel some aches and pains...maybe I just need to work out more ::)

if by "hanging off my neck" you mean you're using a conventional neck strap for that kit, your neck and back would thank you greatly if you moved to a sling strap like Black Rapid or one of it's competitors. I can carry my gripped 7D/70-200 2.8 with an R-Strap for hours with no discomfort.
 
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Stone said:
willrobb said:
candyman said:
Less heavy & shorter is very nice.
And what about the IQ and other possible improvements?

Shorter and lighter would be very nice, after a day walking about with the current 24-70mm on a gripped 5DmkII hanging off my neck I feel some aches and pains...maybe I just need to work out more ::)

if by "hanging off my neck" you mean you're using a conventional neck strap for that kit, your neck and back would thank you greatly if you moved to a sling strap like Black Rapid or one of it's competitors. I can carry my gripped 7D/70-200 2.8 with an R-Strap for hours with no discomfort.

+1

I carry two all day (just got home after 4 hours shooting) with the BR double harness
 
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If it is still a prototype, and it's a possible for launch alongside a 5D Mark III/a boxed set - then that kind of hints that we won't be seeing a release of the 5DMK III for a bit, right?
Did the 24-105 boxed set arrive at the same time as the 5D Mk II alone, or come after?
 
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Stone said:
willrobb said:
candyman said:
Less heavy & shorter is very nice.
And what about the IQ and other possible improvements?

Shorter and lighter would be very nice, after a day walking about with the current 24-70mm on a gripped 5DmkII hanging off my neck I feel some aches and pains...maybe I just need to work out more ::)

if by "hanging off my neck" you mean you're using a conventional neck strap for that kit, your neck and back would thank you greatly if you moved to a sling strap like Black Rapid or one of it's competitors. I can carry my gripped 7D/70-200 2.8 with an R-Strap for hours with no discomfort.

+1 My RS7 is easily one of the best purchases I've made. Get any R-Strap and weight won't be an issue anymore. If you still have troubles getting the camera up to your face, then you may need to work out a little ;)
 
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