Canon EOS 100D Detailed Specs Appear

[EchoLocation]

The 5DIII is just more or less a refreshed D700 with double the MP's.... which is awesome, but not exactly innovative....

Yawn. Trolling troll is trollish.

And completely overlooks the 1Dx, the Great Whites, the TS-Es, the 24-70 II and 70-200 II, the MP-E 65....

How is this trolling?
first of all, I did mention that Canon has innovative lenses.
second of all, I did mention that "among top tier DSLR gear there isn't much difference", this was meant to say that the 1DX and D4 are fairly equal, and anyone would be hard pressed to say one is significantly better than the other.
Third, 24-70II is great, but its 600 dollars more than I paid for my Nikon 24-70, and i've never heard anyone say they want to trade the Nikon for the Canon(nor have I heard vice versa.) I think they're both great.
fourth, saying the 5DIII is an updated D700 with double the MP's isn't a bad thing. The 5DIII is the camera most Nikon fans were hoping to replace the D700. It's a great camera, and I seriously considered buying it, but ultimately it was just a little too expensive for my needs, especially along with the Canon 24-70 II.
You can say all the great things you want about the 5DIII, but it's pretty rare anyone calls it innovative, and that doesn't make it a bad DSLR.
Is it bad that the RX1 with interchangeable lenses is my dream camera? Whichever company makes this for a reasonable price(ie comparable to 5DIIIish) will instantly attract me as a huge fanboy. I'm not a Nikon Troll, Sony Troll, anything, i'm just a camera fan who happens to own both Canon and Nikon DSLR's and is very tempted to buy an RX1.
I'm not tempted to buy this camera at all. But I would have been if it was FF with similar to 5DIII specs for 3000 bucks, which would definitely have been innovative. This camera just sounds like an upgraded XTi. It's good if you don't have a DSLR or just like new toys... but I wouldn't buy this when I already own a 550D.

 

[CanoSony]

I have 4 canon dslr bodies and a set of L lenses to go with them. The NEX system has Zeiss lenses just for their system which are excellent in IQ. The 16MP sensor in the nex 6 is excellent, AND you get AF all the time.

Canon is way behind Nikon and Sony as far as IQ and innovative products.

Are you sure you got that right ... You mean you have 4 DSLR canon bodies and L lenses and they have poor IQ as compared to Nikons and Sony?

Troll post if ever I saw one!

Yeah Im sure I have it right. I have 5d, 7d, 5d2 and 1dsm
Nikon d800 blows away canon in terms of iq and Sony has been much better at new products and innovations.

Ive been with canon for a decade now and a cps member also. Just very disappointed in their cameras lately. I will not buy Nikon because d800 is too big for my hands.

 

[Albi86]

How is this trolling?

Whenever you mention some negative fact about Canon that is so obvious and objective that it can't be disputed, then expect to be called a troll. If you even articulate your opinion in a clear and rational way, then it's all the worse.

 

[TrumpetPower!]

You can say all the great things you want about the 5DIII, but it's pretty rare anyone calls it innovative, and that doesn't make it a bad DSLR.

Insisting that the 5DIII isn't innovative is most certainly trolling.

At the time of its introduction, it had the best autofocus system of any camera by any manufacturer, period. It's only since been surpassed by the 1Dx.

At the time of its introduction, it had the best high ISO performance of any camera by any manufacturer, period. That, too, has only since been surpassed by the 1Dx.

I don't think there's any other 135-format SLR with a shutter actuation as quiet as the 5DIII when in silent mode.

And it remains, to this day, the unquestioned leader for an all-around can-do-anything camera. Sure, it's not the best action camera, but it's better than the previous round of action cameras. It's the best photojournalism / wedding / event camera, no doubt. It's not the best landscape or studio camera, but it's still better than the previous round of landscape and studio cameras in that format -- and, besides, landscape and studio are much better served by medium format than 135 format. And so on.

Claiming that the camera that broke new ground in autofocus and ISO performance and which represents the best-balanced camera ever made isn't innovative?

Yeah, that's a troll.

Cheers,

b&

 

[RLPhoto]

I have 4 canon dslr bodies and a set of L lenses to go with them. The NEX system has Zeiss lenses just for their system which are excellent in IQ. The 16MP sensor in the nex 6 is excellent, AND you get AF all the time.

Canon is way behind Nikon and Sony as far as IQ and innovative products.

Are you sure you got that right ... You mean you have 4 DSLR canon bodies and L lenses and they have poor IQ as compared to Nikons and Sony?

Troll post if ever I saw one!

Yeah Im sure I have it right. I have 5d, 7d, 5d2 and 1dsm
Nikon d800 blows away canon in terms of iq and Sony has been much better at new products and innovations.

Ive been with canon for a decade now and a cps member also. Just very disappointed in their cameras lately. I will not buy Nikon because d800 is too big for my hands.

May I ask, has the canon system ever held back your creativity? If so, in what area's? I'd be hard pressed to find something I can solidly say that canon equipment has held me back.

 

[EchoLocation]

You can say all the great things you want about the 5DIII, but it's pretty rare anyone calls it innovative, and that doesn't make it a bad DSLR.

Insisting that the 5DIII isn't innovative is most certainly trolling.

At the time of its introduction, it had the best autofocus system of any camera by any manufacturer, period. It's only since been surpassed by the 1Dx.

At the time of its introduction, it had the best high ISO performance of any camera by any manufacturer, period. That, too, has only since been surpassed by the 1Dx.

OK, at the time of it's introduction the D800 had already been announced. The D800 was announced Feb 7th, 2012, the 5DIII March 2nd. The 1DX was announced on Oct 18, 2011 and released in March. So, it was never actually surpassed by the 1DX, it never was as good. I'm not slamming the 5DIII AF, as it is awesome, i'm just showing that your facts aren't facts at all. Additionally, I have never heard anyone say that the 5DIII has the best AF of any camera on the market. The 1DX and D4 should be better(i haven't used them outside of a showroom.)
Additionally, The 5DIII has worse high ISO performance than the D800 according to DXOmark. It's ISO rating is 2293 while the D800 is 2853. I'm not a DXO mark fan, but I don't know where else to turn for objective high ISO numbers.
Nothing you stated is a fact.

 

[CanoSony]

I have 4 canon dslr bodies and a set of L lenses to go with them. The NEX system has Zeiss lenses just for their system which are excellent in IQ. The 16MP sensor in the nex 6 is excellent, AND you get AF all the time.

Canon is way behind Nikon and Sony as far as IQ and innovative products.

Are you sure you got that right ... You mean you have 4 DSLR canon bodies and L lenses and they have poor IQ as compared to Nikons and Sony?

Troll post if ever I saw one!

Yeah Im sure I have it right. I have 5d, 7d, 5d2 and 1dsm
Nikon d800 blows away canon in terms of iq and Sony has been much better at new products and innovations.

Ive been with canon for a decade now and a cps member also. Just very disappointed in their cameras lately. I will not buy Nikon because d800 is too big for my hands.

May I ask, has the canon system ever held back your creativity? If so, in what area's? I'd be hard pressed to find something I can solidly say that canon equipment has held me back.

Color depth and dynamic range are much greater on the Nikon and Sony cameras. I cannot push my RAW files as much as i want.

Anyone can shoot any camera and get similar results. Just some cameras do it better.

 

[RLPhoto]

I have 4 canon dslr bodies and a set of L lenses to go with them. The NEX system has Zeiss lenses just for their system which are excellent in IQ. The 16MP sensor in the nex 6 is excellent, AND you get AF all the time.

Canon is way behind Nikon and Sony as far as IQ and innovative products.

Are you sure you got that right ... You mean you have 4 DSLR canon bodies and L lenses and they have poor IQ as compared to Nikons and Sony?

Troll post if ever I saw one!

Yeah Im sure I have it right. I have 5d, 7d, 5d2 and 1dsm
Nikon d800 blows away canon in terms of iq and Sony has been much better at new products and innovations.

Ive been with canon for a decade now and a cps member also. Just very disappointed in their cameras lately. I will not buy Nikon because d800 is too big for my hands.

May I ask, has the canon system ever held back your creativity? If so, in what area's? I'd be hard pressed to find something I can solidly say that canon equipment has held me back.

Color depth and dynamic range are much greater on the Nikon and Sony cameras. I cannot push my RAW files as much as i want.

Anyone can shoot any camera and get similar results. Just some cameras do it better.

Could you demonstrate where the DR of a canon camera has limited you in real world shooting?

 

[CanoSony]

I have 4 canon dslr bodies and a set of L lenses to go with them. The NEX system has Zeiss lenses just for their system which are excellent in IQ. The 16MP sensor in the nex 6 is excellent, AND you get AF all the time.

Canon is way behind Nikon and Sony as far as IQ and innovative products.

Are you sure you got that right ... You mean you have 4 DSLR canon bodies and L lenses and they have poor IQ as compared to Nikons and Sony?

Troll post if ever I saw one!

Yeah Im sure I have it right. I have 5d, 7d, 5d2 and 1dsm
Nikon d800 blows away canon in terms of iq and Sony has been much better at new products and innovations.

Ive been with canon for a decade now and a cps member also. Just very disappointed in their cameras lately. I will not buy Nikon because d800 is too big for my hands.

May I ask, has the canon system ever held back your creativity? If so, in what area's? I'd be hard pressed to find something I can solidly say that canon equipment has held me back.

Color depth and dynamic range are much greater on the Nikon and Sony cameras. I cannot push my RAW files as much as i want.

Anyone can shoot any camera and get similar results. Just some cameras do it better.

Could you demonstrate where the DR of a canon camera has limited you in real world shooting?

Any shooting situations where blown highlights and clipped shadows appear, Nikon and Sony handle better at brining that back in line.

 

[RLPhoto]

Could you demonstrate where the DR of a canon camera has limited you in real world shooting?

Any shooting situations where blown highlights and clipped shadows appear, Nikon and Sony handle better at brining that back in line.

Definition of DEMONSTRATE

transitive verb
1
: to show clearly <demonstrate a willingness to cooperate>
2
a : to prove or make clear by reasoning or evidence
b : to illustrate and explain especially with many examples <demonstrate a procedure> Let's use this one.


Please show us some photos where the DR of a canon camera limited your creativity in real world shooting.

 

[Don Haines]

You can say all the great things you want about the 5DIII, but it's pretty rare anyone calls it innovative, and that doesn't make it a bad DSLR.

Insisting that the 5DIII isn't innovative is most certainly trolling.

At the time of its introduction, it had the best autofocus system of any camera by any manufacturer, period. It's only since been surpassed by the 1Dx.

At the time of its introduction, it had the best high ISO performance of any camera by any manufacturer, period. That, too, has only since been surpassed by the 1Dx.

I don't think there's any other 135-format SLR with a shutter actuation as quiet as the 5DIII when in silent mode.

And it remains, to this day, the unquestioned leader for an all-around can-do-anything camera. Sure, it's not the best action camera, but it's better than the previous round of action cameras. It's the best photojournalism / wedding / event camera, no doubt. It's not the best landscape or studio camera, but it's still better than the previous round of landscape and studio cameras in that format -- and, besides, landscape and studio are much better served by medium format than 135 format. And so on.

Claiming that the camera that broke new ground in autofocus and ISO performance and which represents the best-balanced camera ever made isn't innovative?

Yeah, that's a troll.

Cheers,

b&

Perhaps you two have a different idea of what innovative means?

Myself, I would not say that the 5D3 is innovative, but I would say that it has several good solid improvements over the 5D2. The 5D2 was considered by many to be the best all-round camera, then the 5D3 came out and now it holds that distinction. There is nothing about it that is new, or innovative, or revolutionary.... just a lot of growth from the models that have gone before..... no new technology, no new features, just incremental growth.

 

[CanoSony]

Could you demonstrate where the DR of a canon camera has limited you in real world shooting?

Any shooting situations where blown highlights and clipped shadows appear, Nikon and Sony handle better at brining that back in line.

Definition of DEMONSTRATE

transitive verb
1
: to show clearly <demonstrate a willingness to cooperate>
2
a : to prove or make clear by reasoning or evidence
b : to illustrate and explain especially with many examples <demonstrate a procedure> Let's use this one.


Please show us some photos where the DR of a canon camera limited your creativity in real world shooting.

Photos indoors beside windows or under shade with a single shot. Nothing will limit creativity but using the better tool for the job will always be the choice. Canon falls behind in dynamic range.

 

[RLPhoto]

Could you demonstrate where the DR of a canon camera has limited you in real world shooting?

Any shooting situations where blown highlights and clipped shadows appear, Nikon and Sony handle better at brining that back in line.

Definition of DEMONSTRATE

transitive verb
1
: to show clearly <demonstrate a willingness to cooperate>
2
a : to prove or make clear by reasoning or evidence
b : to illustrate and explain especially with many examples <demonstrate a procedure> Let's use this one.


Please show us some photos where the DR of a canon camera limited your creativity in real world shooting.

Photos indoors beside windows or under shade with a single shot. Nothing will limit creativity but using the better tool for the job will always be the choice. Canon falls behind in dynamic range.

Big talk and no photos = Worthless opinion.

 

[CanoSony]

Could you demonstrate where the DR of a canon camera has limited you in real world shooting?

Any shooting situations where blown highlights and clipped shadows appear, Nikon and Sony handle better at brining that back in line.

Definition of DEMONSTRATE

transitive verb
1
: to show clearly <demonstrate a willingness to cooperate>
2
a : to prove or make clear by reasoning or evidence
b : to illustrate and explain especially with many examples <demonstrate a procedure> Let's use this one.


Please show us some photos where the DR of a canon camera limited your creativity in real world shooting.

Photos indoors beside windows or under shade with a single shot. Nothing will limit creativity but using the better tool for the job will always be the choice. Canon falls behind in dynamic range.

Big talk and no photos = Worthless opinion.

Its fun to see you so worked up when theres plenty of evidence of DR superiority and IQ of Nikon Sony. Sorry I dont spend all day on my computer. Im on my phone.

 

[RLPhoto]

Could you demonstrate where the DR of a canon camera has limited you in real world shooting?

Any shooting situations where blown highlights and clipped shadows appear, Nikon and Sony handle better at brining that back in line.

Definition of DEMONSTRATE

transitive verb
1
: to show clearly <demonstrate a willingness to cooperate>
2
a : to prove or make clear by reasoning or evidence
b : to illustrate and explain especially with many examples <demonstrate a procedure> Let's use this one.


Please show us some photos where the DR of a canon camera limited your creativity in real world shooting.

Photos indoors beside windows or under shade with a single shot. Nothing will limit creativity but using the better tool for the job will always be the choice. Canon falls behind in dynamic range.

Big talk and no photos = Worthless opinion.

Its fun to see you so worked up when theres plenty of evidence of DR superiority and IQ of Nikon Sony. Sorry I dont spend all day on my computer. Im on my phone.

Nah, Just trolling the troll. DR is irrelevant if you don't take pictures.

 

[Loswr]

Let me explain. No, there is too much. Let me sum up.

There is a horse named Dynamic Range. It is dead. Please stop beating the dead horse.

 

[TrumpetPower!]

OK, at the time of it's introduction the D800 had already been announced. The D800 was announced Feb 7th, 2012, the 5DIII March 2nd. The 1DX was announced on Oct 18, 2011 and released in March. So, it was never actually surpassed by the 1DX, it never was as good. I'm not slamming the 5DIII AF, as it is awesome, i'm just showing that your facts aren't facts at all.

Physician, kettle, mote, etc.

I and thousands others had thousands of exposures on our 5DIIIs long before you could even officially pre-order a 1Dx. And the D800 is many wonderful things, but it only surpasses the 5DIII in megapickle count and dynamic range -- its autofocus is far shy of the 5DIII's -- as are almost all of its other features. That you should suggest it's got better autofocus than the 5DIII...and then start whipping the dead dynamic range horse and claiming the D800 has better high ISO performance....

...yeah. Troll.

Even if you're not intentionally trolling, which I rather doubt by now, you're still trolling.

Cheers,

b&

 

[EchoLocation]

OK, at the time of it's introduction the D800 had already been announced. The D800 was announced Feb 7th, 2012, the 5DIII March 2nd. The 1DX was announced on Oct 18, 2011 and released in March. So, it was never actually surpassed by the 1DX, it never was as good. I'm not slamming the 5DIII AF, as it is awesome, i'm just showing that your facts aren't facts at all.

Physician, kettle, mote, etc.

I and thousands others had thousands of exposures on our 5DIIIs long before you could even officially pre-order a 1Dx. And the D800 is many wonderful things, but it only surpasses the 5DIII in megapickle count and dynamic range -- its autofocus is far shy of the 5DIII's -- as are almost all of its other features. That you should suggest it's got better autofocus than the 5DIII...and then start whipping the dead dynamic range horse and claiming the D800 has better high ISO performance....

...yeah. Troll.

Even if you're not intentionally trolling, which I rather doubt by now, you're still trolling.

Cheers,

b&

Neuro, are you ready to stop standing on the sidelines while people argue against my FACTS with their OPINIONS. I have been killed on this board for using my opinion to make arguments many times. I presented factual numbers from DXOMARK. I explained that I don't think they are the best numbers, but they are at least numbers by a lab. What have you used for your argument, 100% opinion.
The D800 was measured as having better high ISO performance than the 5DIII.
I'm not saying it's a better camera, i'm simply saying that YOU ARE USING OPINION.
DO YOU HAVE ANY FACTS TO SHOW THAT THE 5DIII has better HIGH ISO performance?
Are you even reading my posts? I never said the D800 has better AF. I said the 1DX has better AF and that it was announced before the 5DIII. Whether it was available or not at the time, there was never any doubt in my mind that the AF of the 1DX would be superior.
You guys just spent a page killing our newcomer for not agreeing with you, all the while you have ignored that I presented numbers showing the D800 has better high ISO performance. I never mentioned DR in any earlier posts as I agree it is has been overblown(pardon the pun), however I don't discount it's importance. It's obviously better to have good DR than not to.
How did you rebuke the high ISO dxomark scores? by yeling, "Troll" "Troll" "troll"
TrumpetPower, please show me numbers, not opinions, but factual evidence from anywhere showing that the 5DIII is better at high ISO? I'm curious to see why you are so positive that the 5DIII is better.

As I said in earlier posts, I don't really care all that much for DXOMark, but I don't know where else to turn for lab measured numbers on cameras.
Also, people on this board can bash DXOmark scores all they want, but when Admin posted this thread with false 1DX scores, people were thrilled to gloat about the superior scores of the 1DX.... until they found out the numbers were false, when they went back to hating DXO. lol! http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=10075.0
You can disagree with me all you want, it's fine. But please don't call me a troll when i'm at least trying to give evidence. All you have given us is your opinion.
Once again, please show me where any 3rd party has definitively said the 5DIII has better high ISO.

 

[Hobby Shooter]

OK, at the time of it's introduction the D800 had already been announced. The D800 was announced Feb 7th, 2012, the 5DIII March 2nd. The 1DX was announced on Oct 18, 2011 and released in March. So, it was never actually surpassed by the 1DX, it never was as good. I'm not slamming the 5DIII AF, as it is awesome, i'm just showing that your facts aren't facts at all.

Physician, kettle, mote, etc.

I and thousands others had thousands of exposures on our 5DIIIs long before you could even officially pre-order a 1Dx. And the D800 is many wonderful things, but it only surpasses the 5DIII in megapickle count and dynamic range -- its autofocus is far shy of the 5DIII's -- as are almost all of its other features. That you should suggest it's got better autofocus than the 5DIII...and then start whipping the dead dynamic range horse and claiming the D800 has better high ISO performance....

...yeah. Troll.

Even if you're not intentionally trolling, which I rather doubt by now, you're still trolling.

Cheers,

b&

Neuro, are you ready to stop standing on the sidelines while people argue against my FACTS with their OPINIONS. I have been killed on this board for using my opinion to make arguments many times. I presented factual numbers from DXOMARK. I explained that I don't think they are the best numbers, but they are at least numbers by a lab. What have you used for your argument, 100% opinion.
The D800 was measured as having better high ISO performance than the 5DIII.
I'm not saying it's a better camera, i'm simply saying that YOU ARE USING OPINION.
DO YOU HAVE ANY FACTS TO SHOW THAT THE 5DIII has better HIGH ISO performance?
Are you even reading my posts? I never said the D800 has better AF. I said the 1DX has better AF and that it was announced before the 5DIII. Whether it was available or not at the time, there was never any doubt in my mind that the AF of the 1DX would be superior.
You guys just spent a page killing our newcomer for not agreeing with you, all the while you have ignored that I presented numbers showing the D800 has better high ISO performance. I never mentioned DR in any earlier posts as I agree it is has been overblown(pardon the pun), however I don't discount it's importance. It's obviously better to have good DR than not to.
How did you rebuke the high ISO dxomark scores? by yeling, "Troll" "Troll" "troll"
TrumpetPower, please show me numbers, not opinions, but factual evidence from anywhere showing that the 5DIII is better at high ISO? I'm curious to see why you are so positive that the 5DIII is better.

As I said in earlier posts, I don't really care all that much for DXOMark, but I don't know where else to turn for lab measured numbers on cameras.
Also, people on this board can bash DXOmark scores all they want, but when Admin posted this thread with false 1DX scores, people were thrilled to gloat about the superior scores of the 1DX.... until they found out the numbers were false, when they went back to hating DXO. lol! http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=10075.0
You can disagree with me all you want, it's fine. But please don't call me a troll when i'm at least trying to give evidence. All you have given us is your opinion.
Once again, please show me where any 3rd party has definitively said the 5DIII has better high ISO.

What are you trying to achieve?

 

[EchoLocation]

OK, at the time of it's introduction the D800 had already been announced. The D800 was announced Feb 7th, 2012, the 5DIII March 2nd. The 1DX was announced on Oct 18, 2011 and released in March. So, it was never actually surpassed by the 1DX, it never was as good. I'm not slamming the 5DIII AF, as it is awesome, i'm just showing that your facts aren't facts at all.

Physician, kettle, mote, etc.

I and thousands others had thousands of exposures on our 5DIIIs long before you could even officially pre-order a 1Dx. And the D800 is many wonderful things, but it only surpasses the 5DIII in megapickle count and dynamic range -- its autofocus is far shy of the 5DIII's -- as are almost all of its other features. That you should suggest it's got better autofocus than the 5DIII...and then start whipping the dead dynamic range horse and claiming the D800 has better high ISO performance....

...yeah. Troll.

Even if you're not intentionally trolling, which I rather doubt by now, you're still trolling.

Cheers,

b&

Neuro, are you ready to stop standing on the sidelines while people argue against my FACTS with their OPINIONS. I have been killed on this board for using my opinion to make arguments many times. I presented factual numbers from DXOMARK. I explained that I don't think they are the best numbers, but they are at least numbers by a lab. What have you used for your argument, 100% opinion.
The D800 was measured as having better high ISO performance than the 5DIII.
I'm not saying it's a better camera, i'm simply saying that YOU ARE USING OPINION.
DO YOU HAVE ANY FACTS TO SHOW THAT THE 5DIII has better HIGH ISO performance?
Are you even reading my posts? I never said the D800 has better AF. I said the 1DX has better AF and that it was announced before the 5DIII. Whether it was available or not at the time, there was never any doubt in my mind that the AF of the 1DX would be superior.
You guys just spent a page killing our newcomer for not agreeing with you, all the while you have ignored that I presented numbers showing the D800 has better high ISO performance. I never mentioned DR in any earlier posts as I agree it is has been overblown(pardon the pun), however I don't discount it's importance. It's obviously better to have good DR than not to.
How did you rebuke the high ISO dxomark scores? by yeling, "Troll" "Troll" "troll"
TrumpetPower, please show me numbers, not opinions, but factual evidence from anywhere showing that the 5DIII is better at high ISO? I'm curious to see why you are so positive that the 5DIII is better.

As I said in earlier posts, I don't really care all that much for DXOMark, but I don't know where else to turn for lab measured numbers on cameras.
Also, people on this board can bash DXOmark scores all they want, but when Admin posted this thread with false 1DX scores, people were thrilled to gloat about the superior scores of the 1DX.... until they found out the numbers were false, when they went back to hating DXO. lol! http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=10075.0
You can disagree with me all you want, it's fine. But please don't call me a troll when i'm at least trying to give evidence. All you have given us is your opinion.
Once again, please show me where any 3rd party has definitively said the 5DIII has better high ISO.

What are you trying to achieve?

To show that my opinions based on facts are being lambasted by simple opinions with no facts?