Canon EOS-1D X Drops to $4599 From Authorized Dealers

[Mt Spokane Photography]

Assuming no one will sell it for a loss, the retailers got it at $4500? And Canon would have sold it with a margin of around $1000. So the camera (including advertising costs) is actually for $3500?? My calculations are most probably totally wrong, I some of you wise men can educate me on this please.

Its complicated, Canon may allow 8% margin(My local Dealer told me his markup), so as the price drops, so does the markup. Canon may also pay bonuses based on volume. They also drop the price or offer incentives to move overstock.

The end result is that we are only guessing because there are too many variables and ways for dealers to cut prices when Canon wants them to.

With a MAP of 4600, there is likely a 350 markup more or less, but incentives are a unknown.

Assuming similar price drops worldwide (In Yen), gray market buyers may also see big drops in cost, because they pay in US dollars.

 

[unfocused]

You don't need a 1DX to take good photos, and if you can't afford one don't worry. There are older 1D bodies that are great and newer less durable bodies with better sensors. An entry-level APS-C dSLR can take great photos... if the subject you're photographing permits a poor VF and slow AF, burst rate, etc. And if you can afford a 1DX, it's probably because you're using it for work or just have too much money.

Exactly. No one suggested a 1DX would make anyone a better photographer or that you need a 1DX to be a good photographer. I don't own a 1DX and I probably never will. I could neither afford nor justify it. But that doesn't mean I think it is overpriced. It is simply out of my price range.

To suggest that the Sensor is the only thing that matters and should be what sets the value of the camera is beyond silly. If someone is buying a 1DX for the sensor, they are probably buying it for the wrong reasons (unless of course, they need high ISO performance under low-light conditions, in which case the sensor is a very good reason to buy it – although both the 6D and the 5DIII are no slouches when it comes to high ISO performance. Still, if you need the very best, then you might need the 1DX).

I suspect that most of the professionals who buy the 1DX buy it because it works. They know it will perform under the most adverse conditions, is reliable and offers a slight edge under some conditions that will help them bring back the shots they need to stay employed.

 

[Policar]

You don't need a 1DX to take good photos, and if you can't afford one don't worry. There are older 1D bodies that are great and newer less durable bodies with better sensors. An entry-level APS-C dSLR can take great photos... if the subject you're photographing permits a poor VF and slow AF, burst rate, etc. And if you can afford a 1DX, it's probably because you're using it for work or just have too much money.

Exactly. No one suggested a 1DX would make anyone a better photographer or that you need a 1DX to be a good photographer. I don't own a 1DX and I probably never will. I could neither afford nor justify it. But that doesn't mean I think it is overpriced. It is simply out of my price range.

To suggest that the Sensor is the only thing that matters and should be what sets the value of the camera is beyond silly. If someone is buying a 1DX for the sensor, they are probably buying it for the wrong reasons (unless of course, they need high ISO performance under low-light conditions, in which case the sensor is a very good reason to buy it – although both the 6D and the 5DIII are no slouches when it comes to high ISO performance. Still, if you need the very best, then you might need the 1DX).

I suspect that most of the professionals who buy the 1DX buy it because it works. They know it will perform under the most adverse conditions, is reliable and offers a slight edge under some conditions that will help them bring back the shots they need to stay employed.

There is a group of photographers for whom the sensor is what matters: studio and landscape photographers.

And for them, a 5DS or A7IIR is a way better investment than a 1DX... but like... they REALLY should be using a tech camera and MFDB or 4x5 film if they wish to put their money where their mouth is.

So says someone selling his 5D Mark III and replacing it with a cheapo APS-C camera...

And a 4x5 field camera.

Nothing against the 5D Mark III is is fantastic, but I don't shoot photos much so it's just a toy sitting around that needs a better home.

 

[expatinasia]

US$ 4,599 is an amazing price for a camera such as the 1D X. But what amazes me more is that someone wrote above that the 1D Mark IV can be had for just over US$ 1,000. I just did a quick search and on amazon they can be bought used for US$ 1,2XX. Wow, that's a very special deal as well.

 

[gsealy]

You don't need a 1DX to take good photos, and if you can't afford one don't worry. There are older 1D bodies that are great and newer less durable bodies with better sensors. An entry-level APS-C dSLR can take great photos... if the subject you're photographing permits a poor VF and slow AF, burst rate, etc. And if you can afford a 1DX, it's probably because you're using it for work or just have too much money.

Exactly. No one suggested a 1DX would make anyone a better photographer or that you need a 1DX to be a good photographer. I don't own a 1DX and I probably never will. I could neither afford nor justify it. But that doesn't mean I think it is overpriced. It is simply out of my price range.

To suggest that the Sensor is the only thing that matters and should be what sets the value of the camera is beyond silly. If someone is buying a 1DX for the sensor, they are probably buying it for the wrong reasons (unless of course, they need high ISO performance under low-light conditions, in which case the sensor is a very good reason to buy it – although both the 6D and the 5DIII are no slouches when it comes to high ISO performance. Still, if you need the very best, then you might need the 1DX).

I suspect that most of the professionals who buy the 1DX buy it because it works. They know it will perform under the most adverse conditions, is reliable and offers a slight edge under some conditions that will help them bring back the shots they need to stay employed.

The last paragraph is 'spot on.' I have seen those guys at sports events in some real nasty weather using the 1Dx. They were firing away like machine guns.

 

[expatinasia]

I suspect that most of the professionals who buy the 1DX buy it because it works. They know it will perform under the most adverse conditions, is reliable and offers a slight edge under some conditions that will help them bring back the shots they need to stay employed.

The last paragraph is 'spot on.' I have seen those guys at sports events in some real nasty weather using the 1Dx. They were firing away like machine guns.

Very true, the amount of times I have been sat on a pitch when the sky turns black, even though it is the middle of the day, and the worse rain you have ever seen comes down with thunder and lightening to accompany it. I suffer more than the camera does.

 

[gsealy]

The 1Dx is built to perform in all kinds of conditions and it is especially suited to athletic events and wildlife. If I were a sports photographer that wanted to make a buck then I would definitely own one. Is $4599 a good price? Yes, if you need that camera because it will perform. Does it make you a better photographer? For what the 1Dx is suited, yes it does. Athletes don't stand still. The action is fast and the camera has to catch it in focus with a burst of several frames. And most sports events are not cancelled because of rain or cold. The 1Dx can withstand that. I look at the 1Dx as a machine and less so as an artistic device. And what a machine it is.

 

[Peer]

I'm willing to bet the replacement will be a whole new design concept.

And if so, I hope & pray Canon will give the 1DX2 4k video with 6k burst mode along with zebra & false color.

-- peer

 

[expatinasia]

Understand that when you're in those conditions, if the camera fails to work then its repair will not be covered under warranty repair. Read your camera and lens documentation carefully: none of Canon's kit is sold as being "rain proof."

Canon take care to provide a good product but accept no responsibility if it fails.

Whenever it looks like it will rain, I always put on the rain cover Canon's ERC-E4. They work very well, and I have not had one fail on me yet.

 

[tomscott]

I was shooting at Silverstone Classics (the biggest classic motor racing event in the world) last weekend shooting for publication. Torrential rain yellow weather warning I was out from 9am until 4pm on the friday and it was bouncing had a rain cover on the 5DMKIII, after 7hours out in the rain the 5D gave up the ghost and the screen stopped working also the buttons were waterlogged… it would shoot the frame but I couldn't change any settings, got my 40D out (which I always keep on me and yes I know I need to upgrade this but love it and fine for newspaper publication) and that went in 2-3 hours too. Got back to my accommodation and put them in a towel to slow dry, they dried out fine for the rest of the weekend… Which was a surprise thought both were goners.

But did get me very worried at the time. All of my gear is insured because A its not worth it B I travel to some pretty bad places C for events like the above you have to have £5M worth of public liability insurance. So if the worst should happen like the above its all covered.

Ive taken the 5D round the world its been in deserts of 50+ Deg C and arctic conditions of -45 Deg C, was in the amazon for a week with its torrential rain etc etc some really bad places for equipment. Shot around 150,000 shots and never let me down first time last weekend. Got me seriously thinking about a 1DX... Just a shame here in the UK they are £4599… huge premium over the US.

The saturday was fine then the sunday was even worse but was a little more prepared and had no problems.

TBH I forgave the 5DMKIII because I was seriously miserable… 7 hours in torrential rain, all my waterproof gear failed and I was soaked through too. There is only so much you can take let alone the equipment.

But then I got the results I needed. Check the amount of water on the track on the first image.. and yes both of these are with a 40D!!!

BMW E30 M3, No.83, Tim Harvey, Silverstone Classics 2015 by Tom Scott, on Flickr

Sideways Action, Historic Formula 1, Silverstone Classics 25th Anniversary by Tom Scott, on Flickr

One from the 5D

Ferrari 250GT SWB breadvan, Royal Automobile Club Tourist Trophy For Historic Cars Pre '63 GT, Silverstone Classics 2015 by Tom Scott, on Flickr

 

[kubelik]

I have to imagine that people who compare cameras purely based on sensor specs have never shot a serious gig before, whether it be a wedding, concert, report, editorial, race, or game. Almost every interchangeable lens camera on the market nowadays has a decent enough sensor for 80% of the work to be done out there (barring the extreme high-resolution stuff, or extreme low-light stuff). I readily admit I've only shot a few paid gigs in my life and a few more as a second-shooter, so I'm not going to try to speak for the true pros, but even in my brief experience I've noticed that my requirements for a camera in a pressure-cooker situation basically come down to:

1. can I rely on my AF to do its job
2. how rapidly can I adapt my camera on the fly to do what it needs to do

for that alone my 5D Mark II was a worthy upgrade over my 30D, and likewise my 5D Mark III was a hugely worthy upgrade over my 5D Mark II. I'm not going to shell out for a 1D X because I don't do enough paid work to justify it, but I can certainly imagine that it really nails both key requirements on my checklist for a high-performance camera.

I do agree with the poster that said you'd probably be just as well off buying a used 1D Mark IV ... these things are all built like tanks and should keep working hard for a long time.

 

[dstppy]

I am *so* getting two of these. One for each hand.

 

[sanj]

Tomscot!! Very nice...

 

[Dylan777]

Wow...it getting low and lower. For those dreaming about 1Dx, this is a great time.

Regardless how good 1DX II might be, this BEAST is awesome

 

[Oakville]

Hi, anybody knows of any gray market sales for Canadians? I mean not to go through converting dollars etc...
or why the Canon Gear is not getting cheap in Canadian Stores - especially the Canon 5DMk3?
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[PureClassA]

No doubt. Fortunately I have no need for the 1DX again until May 2016 when dance recital season come around again. Either I'll be calling LensRentals again as usual or if the 1DX2 is out by then I may get an uncontrollable case of itchy trigger finger

Wow...it getting low and lower. For those dreaming about 1Dx, this is a great time.

Regardless how good 1DX II might be, this BEAST is awesome

 

[PureClassA]

Friend of mine just sent me this. I offer it "as is" but it would be much better with a 1DX.

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

US$ 4,599 is an amazing price for a camera such as the 1D X. But what amazes me more is that someone wrote above that the 1D Mark IV can be had for just over US$ 1,000. I just did a quick search and on amazon they can be bought used for US$ 1,2XX. Wow, that's a very special deal as well.

Yes, the price on that wonderful camera is dropping out of site. I had to sell mine for $4,000 about 3 years ago due to hand issues. Its a good compromise of extra reach for birders and low light response. I think that a lot of users are put off by its size. Smaller seems to be the current fad.

 

[Click]

Friend of mine just sent me this. I offer it "as is" but it would be much better with a 1DX.

;D ;D ;D

 

[mark d.]

Could the price decrease be due to the 5DS being priced at $3699? While the 1DX is a natural for sports photographers, those who wish to currently step up from a 5D3 could go to the newer technology in the 5DS for less money rather than opt for the heavier, older and more expensive 1DX.