Canon EOS-1D X Mark II Talk [CR2]

[emko]

I hope Canon gets rid of CF in favour of CFast. I'm tired of worrying about bent pins.

Really it has pins? then again how on earth do you bend something when the card can only go in one way. I think what CFast was going for is improved performance over the current card technology.

 

[Eldar]

I had a five-point wish list for the 5DS/5DSR and got one (resolution). My list for a new 1DX is not much longer. I am very happy with the ergonomics as they are, so they don't have to change that to tempt me. 12 fps is sufficient for me and as long as buffer size remains at least where it is today, I'd be happy to stay with CF cards. I see some worry about broken pins. I have taken these cards out and reinserted them hundreds of times and I have never broken a pin, except in a memory card reader, with a very shallow connection slot. I expect all the relevant improvements we have seen on the 7DII and 5DS/R, as good or better, will be included.

For the 1DX-II I have a six-point list;

- If they could push resolution to app. 28MP, I would be happy.
- Low ISO DR should get a good push and we should see improvements on higher ISOs as well.
- Noise performance on all ISOs should improve and if I could get usable ISO51200 images, I'd be happy
- More and wider spread cross type/dual cross type AF points and improved tracking of (fast) moving objects in complex situations.
- Improved manual focus capabilities, which could be accomplished in several ways. The preferred would be to have improved AF point confirmation accuracy (to f1.4). A good alternative would be a high precision focusing screen
- Improved connectivity to other systems (USB 3.0, wifi, bluetooth) and a built in remote flash control would be nice.

I know from previous experience that I never fall in love with any menu system, but I learn to live with what I get. I suppose this will be the same here. I have learned my way around the 5DIII/1DX hierarchy, so hopefully not too many changes. Improved options to customize menus to include the vital few for the shooting situations that are important to me would be good. I haven't done video since my children were small (about a century ago), so I do not see that I will start now (maybe I'll get some grand children ??).

So, like everyone else with an itch, I'll cross my fingers and wait patiently ...

 

[K-amps]

I hope whatever it is.... its makes me stop thinking about the 645z.

 

[Peer]

6. If it has built in 4k with better bit rate and improved latitude it would be instant pre order. (Sleep on the pavement at launch like the apple fanboys.)

Yep, for that I'd sleep on the pavement too -- but only if it also had peaking/zebras and 10-bit 4k, (actually, 8-bit would still be sorta 'okay', I guess, but I wouldn't sleep on the pavement for it).

-- peer

 

[romanr74]

We need a camera that will push Canon back into the leader position of DSLRs. A camera that will keep good shooters from leaving to Sony/Nikon. A camera with new and awesome features that will filter down to cameras in the prosumer range. I don't want it to be Affordable. I want it to be awesome! And guess what, the more awesome it is the more 1DX swill hit the street and be...affordable.

I agree about How it shouldn't be cheap, but can I don't get the bit about pushing Canon back into the leader position. From this one model point of view, can you name one camera which outdoes the 3 year old 1D X now? Nikon have announced two flagships since the 1D X announcement (D4 and D4S), neither of which outgun the 1D X. No-one else is even in that category. What am I missing?

thank you! i am also pretty happy with how green the grass is on my side of the fence...
i believe the single most important bottle-neck is usually behind the camera (not inside it)

 

[wockawocka]

The 1DX is perfect, I'd only want to see a new sensor and a lighter body tbh.

I'd of liked to of seen a 'mini 1DX' small form like a 5D. Same camera but smaller and lighter.

 

[AE-1Burnham]

I am looking forward to the MP count to rise above (or at least be equal to) the 1Ds3.

Dream spec: hybrid optical viewfinder with button-actuated focus peaking across entire frame (how this would be possible I do not know...).

And I agree with most: Why change the ergonomics?

Excited.

 

[d]

I hope whatever it is.... its makes me stop thinking about the 645z.

This, exactly this!

 

[Spacenoodle]

What nobody seem to mention is WiFi.

If you're a sports or news shooter, shooting for publications, the news desk wants your images the minute they're shot. Most guys I know use the WFT-E6 tethered to an iPad to upload as they go. It's nearly $600 for functionality that really needs to be built in and I hope will come as part of the 1DX Mk II. There's no point uploading images an hour after the game / event, because others publications have already had them out since half time, Wifi in these pro bodies is a necessity.

My list of what I'd like to see:

• WiFi - news shooters and journalists will be begging for this
• Improved video for journalists, because it's harder and harder to be 'just a photographer' when editors want video and pictures. Dual Pixel AF, with tracking and face detect mode in video, headphone out jack (this should never have been left off the 1Dx anyway), and at least 1080p @ 60 FPS
• CFast

That's it, the burst rate and auto focus is already stellar, if they improve it, it's just icing on the cake.

 

[dslrdummy]

I'm surprised there hasn't been any trolling comments yet about Sony sensors being added to the list for DR. This thread is truly a virgin

OH MY GOD I WONT GET THIS DAMN CAMERA UNLESS THERE'S 4K and SUPER DR. THE A7R WILL SO MUCH BE BETTER THAN THE 1DX mk ii.

The A7Rii is about two weeks away. Won't be a speed demon but could well have some pretty impressive specs just the same.

 

[danski0224]

I would want the resolution and color of the 1DsIII with the ISO performance of the current 1DX. Improved Live View, focus peaking... even an EVF overlay that goes beyond the current transmissive LCD.

 

[dolina]

Good information. I didn't know that :-\

Now you know, and knowing is half the battle.

Another reason why I want CFast to become mainstream today is that by 2018 and forward the cards will be cheaper.

All the Cinema EOS bodies and at the very least the next 1-Series body should sport CFast.

1D X replacement should be out a few months before the 2016 Olympics on August in Rio.

Announced by September 2015 with some units arriving by December 2015 with the rest trickling in January 2016.

 

[Loswr]

We need a camera that will push Canon back into the leader position of DSLRs. A camera that will keep good shooters from leaving to Sony/Nikon. A camera with new and awesome features that will filter down to cameras in the prosumer range. I don't want it to be Affordable. I want it to be awesome! And guess what, the more awesome it is the more 1DX swill hit the street and be...affordable.

I agree about How it shouldn't be cheap, but can I don't get the bit about pushing Canon back into the leader position. From this one model point of view, can you name one camera which outdoes the 3 year old 1D X now? Nikon have announced two flagships since the 1D X announcement (D4 and D4S), neither of which outgun the 1D X. No-one else is even in that category. What am I missing?

You're missing the single most important, all-encompassing feature for any dSLR - low ISO DR. Really, without at least two more stops of low ISO DR, every new Canon camera – including the 1D X II – will be essentially useless and will utterly fail to compete with cameras from Nikon and Sony...just as all current Canon cameras are hopelessly outclassed by the competition.

Hope that clarifies...

 

[dolina]

You're missing the single most important, all-encompassing feature for any dSLR - low ISO DR. Really, without at least two more stops of low ISO DR, every new Canon camera – including the 1D X II – will be essentially useless and will utterly fail to compete with cameras from Nikon and Sony...just as all current Canon cameras are hopelessly outclassed by the competition.

Hope that clarifies...

The $16,000 C300 Mark II's supposed to have 15 stops of DR.

Incidentally it has two CFast and one SDXC slot.

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Anyone else want to whine about my wanting CFast sooner?

To put things in perspective CF cards uses Parallel ATA technology (limited to 167MB/s) that is most useful for hard disk drives.

CFast cards uses Serial ATA technology (surpasses 167MB/s) that is most needed and already saturated by solid state drives.

If you want higher DR, larger MP and faster frame rates with a short buffering time will require storage that can write faster than a typical hard disk drive.

 

[TexPhoto]

I still don't think the 1Dx is affordable and now comes the successor. :-\

Affordable? We need a camera that will push Canon back into the leader position of DSLRs. A camera that will keep good shooters from leaving to Sony/Nikon. A camera with new and awesome features that will filter down to cameras in the prosumer range. I don't want it to be Affordable. I want it to be awesome! And guess what, the more awesome it is the more 1DX swill hit the street and be...affordable.

Also, Canon should totally give me a free one, and I was not trying to come across as a jerk.

I might agree with you at compact and mirrorless, but not DSLR.

Compact and Mirrorless are certainly an option for some. It's 2015, and these alternative lifestyles are accepted more and more these days, and I am fine with that.

 

[GuyF]

If they can make the body a bit lighter than the current 1DX and give it a quieter silent shutter mode then I'd be in the queue. My 5D3 is great for many things but just lags behind the 1DX in enough areas to make me want one.

I wonder how many current 5D3 owners would get a 1DX mkII and keep their 5D3 for back-up but then after a year realise they'd never given that faithful old 5D3 any use....

 

[can0nfan2379]

If they can make the body a bit lighter than the current 1DX and give it a quieter silent shutter mode then I'd be in the queue. My 5D3 is great for many things but just lags behind the 1DX in enough areas to make me want one.

I wonder how many current 5D3 owners would get a 1DX mkII and keep their 5D3 for back-up but then after a year realise they'd never given that faithful old 5D3 any use....

I'd likely keep my 5D3 as a backup, sell the grip and use it for times when I'd want a smaller form factor over the 1DXII that still produces awesome images.

 

[rs]

We need a camera that will push Canon back into the leader position of DSLRs. A camera that will keep good shooters from leaving to Sony/Nikon. A camera with new and awesome features that will filter down to cameras in the prosumer range. I don't want it to be Affordable. I want it to be awesome! And guess what, the more awesome it is the more 1DX swill hit the street and be...affordable.

I agree about How it shouldn't be cheap, but can I don't get the bit about pushing Canon back into the leader position. From this one model point of view, can you name one camera which outdoes the 3 year old 1D X now? Nikon have announced two flagships since the 1D X announcement (D4 and D4S), neither of which outgun the 1D X. No-one else is even in that category. What am I missing?

You're missing the single most important, all-encompassing feature for any dSLR - low ISO DR. Really, without at least two more stops of low ISO DR, every new Canon camera – including the 1D X II – will be essentially useless and will utterly fail to compete with cameras from Nikon and Sony...just as all current Canon cameras are hopelessly outclassed by the competition.

Hope that clarifies...

Of course, I forgot about the 14+ stops of DR output media such as prints and screens have, which renders cameras which capture anything less than 14+ stops of DR at base ISO inexcusable.

 

[fatmanmedi]

• • • my wish list is as follows
      
      • illuminated controls in red (so that it doesn’t distract and great for very low light operations)
      • Cfast - CF cards are getting old, they are great and robust, but the tech is getting slow compared to other formats
      • 2FPS improvements - nothing too dramatic there, a little faster is always better
      • Low light ISO improvement - this is the most important thing, i would happly losr the extra FPS to gain 3 FULL stops of low light performance, the tech is there for this to happen.
      • new battery - more shots in a lower weight package with faster recharge times
      • built in WI-FI - essential for press work
      
      Video is not important for me as i have dedicated video cameras for that work.
      
      fats

 

[RGF]

I hope Canon gets rid of CF in favour of CFast. I'm tired of worrying about bent pins.

only bent pin I ever had was I *stupidly* forced the card in the wrong way.

Have you have bent pins when the card was inserted correctly?