Canon EOS 5D Mark III Product Advisory
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Boring. Hoped (entirely foolishly of course) that they'd add the stuff missing from video or at least fix the crashes with eyefi and general usage some people are reporting at least.
If anything, maybe it's good for Canon, now they can sustain the $3500 longer since they will create a second backlog of pent up demand.
:'(
If anything, maybe it's good for Canon, now they can sustain the $3500 longer since they will create a second backlog of pent up demand.
:'(
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prestonpalmer said:
Because people whined and complained and it got picked up by popular sites as a 5D3 issue; so Canon is doing what a good company does, grease the squeaking wheel. Unfortunately in the process, the number of people chiming in with my X (where X is not a 5D3) gets lost in the noise or ignored because talking about last years cameras doesn't get the page-views talking about a big screwup on this years new release does.
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unfocused said:
lol! Maybe they also thought the actually screen cover assembly was not strong enought (or the batch they got initially) compared to the mkii. So they are acting now in fear this part may cause other issue in the future...maybe?
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While I can't even remember ever turning on the top LCD's backlight in all the years I had my 5d2 and now 5d3, I can see why this would be a problem for some... I mean, why else would they even have the backlight if certain photographers didn't need it?
Does suck I'll probably have to get my camera repaired for something that will absolutely not affect me. I just wouldn't want to hurt the resale value by having an unfixed first batcher. Gives a new meaning to beta cam!
Does suck I'll probably have to get my camera repaired for something that will absolutely not affect me. I just wouldn't want to hurt the resale value by having an unfixed first batcher. Gives a new meaning to beta cam!
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So does this problem actually surface when a lens is attached? Last I checked, it's tough to take pictures when the body car or lens cap is blocking all the light to the sensor.
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Oh well....I'm 15mins away from Canon Service Center in Irvine, CA. Same day service I hope
Same here being 15 mins away. However (you may know this), if you are a CPS member don't bother to wait in line when you arrive. You can go straight to the desk and avoid the meaningless wait. I've never had my lenses or camera back in the same day. Typically a 2-4 day wait as a CPS (free) member. Waits may be shorter if you are a paying CPS member. Hope that helps.
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All the tests I've seen online were done with no lens and the body cap on, or with a lens and the lens cap on.
I've tried it on my camera with no lens and the body cap on and it has the issue described.
But has anyone demonstrated a scenario and taking an actual exposure where this will result in problems?
I've tried it on my camera with no lens and the body cap on and it has the issue described.
But has anyone demonstrated a scenario and taking an actual exposure where this will result in problems?
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victorwol said:
By the time I'm ready to sell my 5DIII, it's going to be damn near worthless anyway. The 5DC has known issues where the freakin' mirror falls off, but that doesn't seem to hurt resale too much. IMHO, mirrors that fall off are a bigger problem than a light leak that only affects exposure when the body cap or lens cap is on. Until the day comes where you can take pictures without a lens attached, this is an non-issue to me.
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dilbert said:
Or you can just look at the quick menu on the bright, super-high-res 3.2 inch screen instead of the LCD panel. In the worst case scenario, you have an image that's underexposed, in which case you can change the exposure and fire off another frame. Problem solved. Do you want a camera that wipes your ass for you too?
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awinphoto said:
A light leak somewhere in the body would be an issue for those of us who do shoot in darkened environments like museums without tripods (some museums don't allow tripods), or night-time photography, in that while there are times we can take the time to make sure we get that shot, there are other times where we can't take a couple minutes to get the shot right, and have to take it "on the fly".
This is where the camera's automatic metering comes into play; and if there's a light leak that throws this into doubt...
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RyanCrierie said:
But on the fly, i'm assuming you would be framing up your shot with the VF or rear LCD and not having the top LCD shining away.... I guess to me it was a nice reference but something i rarely used to base exposure off of. Every so often I shoot for banks who send me out to take photos of buildings they have mortgages on, like retail centers/warehouses/apartments... If the buildings are occupied, great, but other times i'm shooting in buildings, sometimes without power turned on, pretty dark.... Shot with the 5d2 which had the same problem but it wasn't a problem... never affected me to the point where it was an issue. I can see your point for how i work, i would never base exposure off of using the top LCD.
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One word - Automatic exposure bracket. At 6fps it is an easy answer. A better answer is to do it a little slower with silent shutter on. Wouldn't want to walk up those people sleeping at the museum.
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prestonpalmer said:
There are different reasons for doing a product "recall" - generally they fall into one of the following categories:
[list type=decimal]
[*]The product is genuinely defective (and possibly dangerous - mainly an issue for car manufacturers)
[*]There is a possible risk the failure of a product may result in liability - watch Apple's behaviour
[*]There is potential reputational damage from a real or imagined fault
[/list]
Car recalls generally fall into the first category. Apple's recall of the first generation iPod nano falls into the second (they replaced my 6 year old iPod nano free of charge, because there was a risk that maybe something could go wrong with the battery).
I think the 5DIII fits into the latter category. Canon cannot afford any adverse press or publicity about the 5D line, because of how important it is to the overall positioning of the EOS product range. Fixing this while it is only being discussed by tech nerds on forums like this has lower impact for Canon than letting it start getting into broader circulation. The 5DIII has to be a success for Canon, so fixing even a "fault" which has no appreciable impact on the performance of the product is important for Canon's image.
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V8Beast said:
Yes, under very specific conditions. Namely the subject you're shooting must be lit at EV 1 or darker (that's 1/4s f/4 ISO 3200, or some equivalent exposure). If the subject is brighter than that, I can't (at least on my body) produce any error in metering by switching the backlight on/off, and have to step up to shining a 100+ lux flashlight on the top LCD.
Moreover, I've tried to reproduce in the "lab" a "concert" like scenario where the camera was in the dark pointing at a slightly brighter subject with a flashlight (simulating a spot light) shined over it. Again, so long as theh subject was lit to better than EV1 I couldn't produce a change in exposure (though there are quite a few more variables here than I would have liked).
rushmore77 said:
I find it hard to take anything that camera town has to say very seriously, after his comments about removing your eye from the viewfinder affecting the metering, given that's normal and expected behavior. Moreover, I find his claims that his 60D doesn't do it to lack voracity at best, doubly so given the lack of control in his tests.
RyanCrierie said:
I don't see how, by the vary nature of this problem, if you're composing the image though the viewfinder, there's no reason to have the top LCD on. Moreover, so long as whatever you're photographing is lit to better than EV1, there doesn't appear to be a problem—at least in my testing. Finally, so long as you don't have a super bright light shining on your camera lighting you/your camera to an appreciable level over the subject material, again, there shouldn't be an issue (at least there wasn't when I was testing this with my camera).
Which brings me back to the "concert" scenario (which too could be applied to your museum scenario, that is a dark environment with very bright lights shining on the camera directly. How accurate is that really though? I can't recall the last museum that I was in that shone lights directly on the patrons while keeping the exhibits comparatively in the dark.
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