Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Achieves Best Canon Sensor Score at DXO
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I think a number of 5D3 folks not planning on upgrading may have an uncomfortable morning...
Granted, this is DXO, and I trust them about as much as I trust our major parties' presidential candidates, but this is very encouraging if corroborated by others.
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Granted, this is DXO, and I trust them about as much as I trust our major parties' presidential candidates, but this is very encouraging if corroborated by others.
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ritholtz said:
Landscapers who went in on the 5DS for detail are probably drooling at the prospect of the 5DS2 with a similar on-chip ADC bump in base ISO DR.
+1-2 DR stops won't let you retire the ND grads or eliminate the need to composite shots for HDR, blending, etc. but it's still useful.
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*Shrug* I currently use both 5D III and Sony A7R, which has DXO DR rating of 14.1 Evs, even higher than 5D IV, but this DR difference currently has no bearing on which camera I pick up.ahsanford said:
What I really, really want from Canon is a full-frame, mirrorless, smaller camera with this new sensor tech, which I would buy in an instant ;D
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ahsanford said:
Not this one, at least...
As a 5D3 owner, there is one area the 5D4 falls short for me and that is lack of noticeable improvement in resolving power and sharpness - despite the resolution bump. The other stuff is nice, but ultimately end IQ is what I'm after. Other than the 5DSR, I'm better off sticking with what I've got and upgrading lenses instead...
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Act444 said:
Tests are fun to discuss, and this one from DXO seems pretty close.
I have the 5DS and sold the 5D III. The 5D IV came late yesterday.
I took one jpg test shot last night and was blown away by the improvement. The biggest thing I noticed is how well the reds held together at ISO 12800. Contrast was better and edge detail without colors bleeding was impressive. The DR improvement is noticeable.
I am very happy with my decision.
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ahsanford said:
Not so simple. I expect your presumption is wrong, that is why I asked.
I suspect Act444 is drawing his conclusions from posted images on the internet that have not been processed with optimal software. If he is looking at comparison shots have they been processed in the same software and were they processed the same or optimally?
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ahsanford said:
Honestly, I'd have preferred a more modest MP boost (say, 24) and a 1-2 stop improvement on high ISO. But, if you've (Canon) chosen to push me towards more MP instead (with the direction of 5D line), ok fine - but I want more sharpness and detail as well. At a minimum, the same if not more pixel-level crispness. From the RAW files I've looked at so far, this is where the 5D4 disappoints me somewhat. I'm sure it's a fine camera, but it's not worth a $3500 upgrade to me at this point.
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privatebydesign said:
I downloaded the RAW off DPR's site and played around with the files myself in DPP 4.5. Looked at studio shots for 5D4, 5D3, 5DSR and 1DX2. Please note that this is just my PERSONAL perspective, and I recognize we have different requirements, perspectives, pet peeves, etc.
If later a "5D4 R" or variable-AA filter 5D4 shows up - sign me up! (At the right price of course)
But back to the topic of DR - I wasn't one of those who cried about it, but glad to see the improvement nonetheless.
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Act444 said:
Thanks for replying. I can't help but feel there is something amiss though, there is no way on earth for same sized output a new 30mp camera isn't as sharp or able to resolve as much as a four year old 20mp camera.
Would you mind saying which files and screen sizes have made you draw your conclusions? Like I say, something seems amiss.
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Some of the posts in here might break the Internet. LOL Some people will never be happy with what Canon delivers...just continue worrying about your gear and taking awful images and blaming the gear. (Hint: it's not the gear)
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Re: DXO 5D4 Sensor Test = 13.6 DR / 91 overall
It took me 6000€ to discover that Canon is not producing an awful bad gear. Some peers do have heat problems and an awful bad service. And that is more limitationg than an minor IQ, most of us do not realize when they look at great shots Canon gear produces.
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It took me 6000€ to discover that Canon is not producing an awful bad gear. Some peers do have heat problems and an awful bad service. And that is more limitationg than an minor IQ, most of us do not realize when they look at great shots Canon gear produces.
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so i think we all owe CANON a big TIME SORRY FOR BASHING YOU THESE PAST YEARS
"the 1s who bashed them" they have been improving just at there own pace, there sensors can now ONLY get better" dont u all agree but wow, so we can safely say we have as good if not better sensor in our 5D4 as the 1DX if not better?
im proud too had dropped 35-00-4700 on my possibyly last DSLR camera
"the 1s who bashed them" they have been improving just at there own pace, there sensors can now ONLY get better" dont u all agree but wow, so we can safely say we have as good if not better sensor in our 5D4 as the 1DX if not better?
im proud too had dropped 35-00-4700 on my possibyly last DSLR camera
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dilbert said:
Sensor tests are pretty quick, usually within a week or two of cameras shipping. Lens testing at DXO is what takes forever -- they took a good 5+ months to retest their Canon glass on the 5DS R, and they took a full year to test a single lens on the A7R II.
Keep in mind also that DXO is the biggest name in the sensor game, and everyone has grown to expect quick testing of new sensors from them. But there are a jillion lens testers out there, so they're in less of a hurry on that front.
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