Canon EOS 5DS & EOS 5DS R Samples By George Lepp

[bdunbar79]

Re: Canon EOS 5DS & EOS 5DS R Samples By George Lepp

<Besides, very few lenses will even resolve close to the native resolution of these bodies.>

Here we go again...

 

[V8Beast]

Re: Canon EOS 5DS & EOS 5DS R Samples By George Lepp

Yawn....

When is the A7RII coming out again ?

 

[StudentOfLight]

Re: Canon EOS 5DS & EOS 5DS R Samples By George Lepp

These look like photos I was creating with my 5D Classic nearly 10 years ago. Nothing super spectacular. They're nice images but unless you make your living full time by displaying your artwork billboard size, I'm not sure I see any value here when compared to current bodies. Besides, very few lenses will even resolve close to the native resolution of these bodies. You'd have to spend some serious money to get lenses that come close to taking advantage of all the resolution's sensor. Otus 55, 300 2.8 II, etc. A 70-200 2.8 II might come pretty close. Same goes for the 24-7 0 2.8II. But even then. what are you going to do with these images? Most of us display these web sized. I have large prints at home too but they're more than sharp enough from my 6D.

If these new bodies come down in price, then I may consider them. But for the intro price... I vote no.

Billboards are not viewed closeup so they don't necessarily need a massive resolution file. A two page spread in a magazine viewed at 12 inches will benefit more from high-res image than a billboard viewed from 100 feet.

<Besides, very few lenses will even resolve close to the native resolution of these bodies.>
Here we go again...

+1. Yeah, that topic has been discussed numerous times.

 

[Sporgon]

Re: Canon EOS 5DS & EOS 5DS R Samples By George Lepp

When optimised with good technique 20 to 23 mp produces ridiculous amounts of detail through high resolution.

If Canon introduced a 5Dz with 12 mp and similar characteristics to the Sony a7s I'd be in there like a shot, primarily because as I stitch much of the time I'd still have plenty of resolution detail plus the advantages of larger pixels.

Someone earlier in this thread stated that in practice the biggest difference with a 50 mp sensor is image output size. I agree entirely.

 

[CaptureWhatYouSee]

Re: Canon EOS 5DS & EOS 5DS R Samples By George Lepp

I am wondering how many people are like-minded to me. I want the 5DsR because I am a landscape photog primarily and I like to review my photos from years past. So, in 10/20 years there will likely be a 8K/12K huge monitor or projector that I can display on a wall (that costs < $1000). Therefore, the 8K files will be useful/necessary. Probably actually need a 100MP sensor for a 12K display.

You need to try current upsizing, it is plenty good enough, besides, in 20 years all the rasterized imaging should be vector mapped via algorithms.............

It will always be better to have raw data at the resolution that you are displaying at (4K, 8K, 12K, 16K,...)

 

[privatebydesign]

Re: Canon EOS 5DS & EOS 5DS R Samples By George Lepp

I am wondering how many people are like-minded to me. I want the 5DsR because I am a landscape photog primarily and I like to review my photos from years past. So, in 10/20 years there will likely be a 8K/12K huge monitor or projector that I can display on a wall (that costs < $1000). Therefore, the 8K files will be useful/necessary. Probably actually need a 100MP sensor for a 12K display.

You need to try current upsizing, it is plenty good enough, besides, in 20 years all the rasterized imaging should be vector mapped via algorithms.............

It will always be better to have raw data at the resolution that you are displaying at (4K, 8K, 12K, 16K,...)

No, it will always be better to have quality RAW data, the quality trumps the resolution, anybody that doesn't believe that just doesn't move pixels around enough.

Here is a 100% crop from a 7,488 x 11,232 px image. That gives you a 25" x 37" @ 300dpi print, or a more realistic 31" x 47" @ 240 dpi, still a very high resolution that will easily work at in your face levels. So a 48" print at nose distance, to get an accurate idea of how it prints to 48" reduce your browser column (command and - buttons on a Mac) so the 100% image is just under 3" wide, then put your nose on it. Guess what the capture resolution was?

 

[Sporgon]

Re: Canon EOS 5DS & EOS 5DS R Samples By George Lepp

I am wondering how many people are like-minded to me. I want the 5DsR because I am a landscape photog primarily and I like to review my photos from years past. So, in 10/20 years there will likely be a 8K/12K huge monitor or projector that I can display on a wall (that costs < $1000). Therefore, the 8K files will be useful/necessary. Probably actually need a 100MP sensor for a 12K display.

You need to try current upsizing, it is plenty good enough, besides, in 20 years all the rasterized imaging should be vector mapped via algorithms.............

It will always be better to have raw data at the resolution that you are displaying at (4K, 8K, 12K, 16K,...)

No, it will always be better to have quality RAW data, the quality trumps the resolution, anybody that doesn't believe that just doesn't move pixels around enough.

Here is a 100% crop from a 7,488 x 11,232 px image. That gives you a 25" x 37" @ 300dpi print, or a more realistic 31" x 47" @ 240 dpi, still a very high resolution that will easily work at in your face levels. So a 48" print at nose distance, to get an accurate idea of how it prints to 48" reduce your browser column (command and - buttons on a Mac) so the 100% image is just under 3" wide, then put your nose on it. Guess what the capture resolution was?

You forgot to add a health warning to anyone who has their heart set on a 5Ds.

I wouldn't like to hazard a guess on the original capture. It looks like around 20 odd mp capture, but I've a feeling it might be considerably less, which is why I stated earlier in this thread how I would like a modern take on 12 ish mp sensor in a 5DIII style camera.

 

[Marsu42]

Re: Canon EOS 5DS & EOS 5DS R Samples By George Lepp

and certainly no Magic Lantern dual_iso.

If it's *not* a a 1D, doesn't that leave the door open to your pals at Magic Lantern to play with the new 5Ds/R?

There are reasons which make it unlikely there will be a 5ds-ML, even though it might not be included in Canon's unofficial "don't touch the 1d" policy

* afaik ML's lead dev (the team consists of ~2 people) thinks that the 5d3 is the most expensive body they'll support, as ML isn't there to make lowly Rebels and enthusiast's models better despite of Canon's crippling and conservatism.

* they have too camera bodies on their hands as it is, even the 6d is semi-maintainted "blindly", the 70d port is crawling and the sl1 port is hit for six. All Canon cameras are kind of similar, but the devil is in the details generating a hilarious amount of work.

* they'd need have constant access to a 5dsr, so people would need to donate one. This is kind of risky, the last person who got a free 70d was never heard from again, but is probably enjoying his new camera :->

Btw ML imho is nearly dead in the water right now, the main dev hasn't had much time lately and all new features are stuck in repo branches for ages w/o making it to the official nightly. This means that essentially, you'll have to compile ML yourself atm after merging these branches to get newer features like enhanced dr, silent pix, 20bit dual_iso processing and just about everything that's been developed in the last 2 years: https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/commits/all

My guess is that from the newer models, the 5d3 will end be "the" supported model for a long time to come, long after a 5d4 or 5ds release.