Canon EOS 5DS R With the Zeiss Otus 85mm f/1.4 Samples

[Canon Rumors]

PhotographyBLOG has posted 25jpg and 25raw files using the Canon EOS 5DS R, paired with the Zeiss Otus 85mm f/1.4. The level of detail is very good, especially on the studio shots.</p>
<blockquote><p>Here are 25 JPEG (Fine Detail picture style) and 25 Raw images taken with a final production version of the Canon EOS 5Ds DSLR camera with the Zeiss Otus 85mm f/1.4 lens. As always with our sample images, they’re straight out of the camera with no post-processing…</p></blockquote>
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[zim]

First reaction.... Brave girl!!

Looks mighty impressing to me, plenty of shadow detail, I'll let others lift away

 

[Marshwader]

The Photography blog samples are Canon EOS 5Ds not Canon EOS 5DsR!
Important if you want to judge the detail which is very impressive and makes me wonder why you'd need the "R"

 

[Maiaibing]

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PhotographyBLOG has posted 25jpg and 25raw files using the Canon EOS 5DS R, paired with the Zeiss Otus 85mm f/1.4. The level of detail is very good,

Try as I may there's no way I can confirm the guy is holding a 5DS R by looking at the reflection in her eye.

 

[distant.star]

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I don't see anything I need here beyond what I can do with my 5D3 and 135L or 85 f/1.2L.

Diminishing returns.

 

[sleepnever]

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I don't see anything I need here beyond what I can do with my 5D3 and 135L or 85 f/1.2L.

Diminishing returns.

I agree. I clicked on the JPEG sample @ f/11, with her on the beach and I'm not trying to be negative because I want Canon to succeed obviously, but I'm just not seeing the "omg wow" factor. It looks the same, as you said, that I can pull off with my 5D3 and L lenses. Only difference is that its fricken HUGE. Is that the point? If it is, ok neat. I thought there was a resolution/detail bump.

 

[privatebydesign]

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I don't see anything I need here beyond what I can do with my 5D3 and 135L or 85 f/1.2L.

Diminishing returns.

I agree. I clicked on the JPEG sample @ f/11, with her on the beach and I'm not trying to be negative because I want Canon to succeed obviously, but I'm just not seeing the "omg wow" factor. It looks the same, as you said, that I can pull off with my 5D3 and L lenses. Only difference is that its fricken HUGE. Is that the point? If it is, ok neat. I thought there was a resolution/detail bump.

Yes, that is the point.

That is the only reason Canon made them, if you don't want or need huge then don't even consider them. I'd love a reason to have one but the truth is even though I print more than most I simply don't need huge, and a 5D MkIII/IV/1DX MkII will serve me much better than a 5DS/R.

 

[Marshwader]

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I don't see anything I need here beyond what I can do with my 5D3 and 135L or 85 f/1.2L.

Diminishing returns.

I agree. I clicked on the JPEG sample @ f/11, with her on the beach and I'm not trying to be negative because I want Canon to succeed obviously, but I'm just not seeing the "omg wow" factor. It looks the same, as you said, that I can pull off with my 5D3 and L lenses. Only difference is that its fricken HUGE. Is that the point? If it is, ok neat. I thought there was a resolution/detail bump.

Yes, that is the point.

That is the only reason Canon made them, if you don't want or need huge then don't even consider them. I'd love a reason to have one but the truth is even though I print more than most I simply don't need huge, and a 5D MkIII/IV/1DX MkII will serve me much better than a 5DS/R.

If all you are looking at are the jpegs you are missing the point. Develop a raw and you'll find: the detail is pretty amazing and so is the degree to which you can open up shadows. Yes it is in part about printing large and retaining detail, which is great but the greater resolution is also very visible in smaller prints. The camera tested here is the Ds not the DsR. Even more amazing how fantastic the detail is.

 

[Adelino]

The resolution on her nose hair.... is that what portraits will come to? There will be A LOT of post shot work done to clean up the average person.

 

[Famateur]

...its fricken HUGE. Is that the point? If it is, ok neat.

Yes, that is the point.

Agreed. It seems pretty clear to me that the point of this camera is to produce huge resolution in order to:

1. Make very large prints with full-size files.
2. Crop heavily and still make high-quality standard sized prints.

If one doesn't print extra large or crop, then, of course, the point of this camera is lost, and a 5DIII will be fine.

I was a little disappointed that I couldn't quite make out the brand of octabox in the catch lights.

One thing that I noticed is that a lot of the talk about the sensor resolution so far in other threads seems to revolve around resolving power of lenses. From these sample images, it would seem that (if you meet the two reasons above for using this camera) nailing focus is going to be the bigger challenge, especially at wide apertures!

Some of the sample portraits were stupid-sharp, but focus was on the specular highlights of the eyelid, leaving lashes out of focus. At "normal" print sizes, it wouldn't be noticeable, but, again, if one is using this camera, cropped or small prints aren't the plan. Better have excellent skills and/or lens AF that gets it right...

First reaction.... Brave girl!!

Mine, too!!!

 

[bchernicoff]

Here is a 100% crop from a RAW. This level of detail excites me for landscape, but seems utter overkill for portraits.

 

[bdunbar79]

You didn't do the quote thing right...

 

[mike b]

You didn't do the quote thing right...

yeah doesnt seem to let you can cancel your message ........and by some error I deleted square bracket and my keyboard doesnt have one to reinsert!!

 

[mike b]

You didn't do the quote thing right...

yeah doesnt seem to let you can cancel your message ........and by some error I deleted square bracket and my keyboard doesnt have one to reinsert!!

Got it now.....
Keep up Administrator you are the ONLY person to incorrectly call them taken by a" 5dsr" Considering half the babble on this forum subject is about the difference between the cameras and you are the" grand honcho" it does seem somewhat unforgivable to make such a basic error.Cant blame it on autocorrect either!! Getting my R tomorrow and hope to post some raw files paired with a canon mount otus 55 mm over the w/e.As an aside I am in the "Not so impressed camp" after downloading 10 or so raw files but need the large pixel count as work demands severe cropping and high resolution enlargement.The otus with the mk 3 make a fabulous combination and i would be happy to stick with that.Image resolution in my private images is not the highest priority but colour rendition is and thats what this this lens delivers in spades.As i have said before i am not a logo fanboy but in Ophthalmic lenses zeiss have a reputation second to none especially in complex higher power prescription cases.I have prescribed them many times and cant think of a case where i have been let down in 25 years!! Ah yes forgot one problem their ophthalmic lenses are pretty expensive too.
mike

 

[privatebydesign]

.........but need the large pixel count as work demands severe cropping and high resolution enlargement.

I don't understand people that say this, if you are always going to crop heavily then a 70D is a better tool.

 

[longdrive70]

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I don't see anything I need here beyond what I can do with my 5D3 and 135L or 85 f/1.2L.

Diminishing returns.

Agreed...I feel the same way about my G1X ;D

 

[mtavel]

All I can think about is the amount of post processing I would need to do to these. It's bad enough when there is a wrinkle here, blemish there, hair out of place.

This is getting to the point where you have to heal brush stray carbon atoms.

 

[gary samples]

love my 5ds so far I envision many uses now I have a machine gun (1Dx) and a bazooka ( 5ds)
There is no blinder man than the one who voluntarily closes his eyes ! :

 

[Eldar]

I had absolutely no reason to buy the 5DSR, since my current gear far outperforms my skills, but I have a very poor character and could not resist the temptation.

My initial reaction to the announcement was massive disappointment, but curiosity took over and I picked up a 5DSR yesterday. I have not had time to test it with the Zeiss glass yet, but I took a few shots on my way to work this morning, with the 24-70 f2.8L II. I am currently in pixle scrutiny mode, looking for all kinds of details, so this is not meant for anything else than that.

My thought was also, at least to some extent, that I rarely print large enough, to justify this resolution. On top of that, I am hardly a print expert. But I have just printed the attached image on my Canon Pro-1, at maximum resolution and the level of detail is simply phenomenal. So it is easy to say that a full size image, printed in A3+ format has more information than I have ever seen in an A3+ print before.

But resolution was expected. What is much more pleasing is the other quality elements. I have still just barely started using the camera, so I cannot be too conclusive, but so far it looks like a clear improvement over the 5DIII (and 1DX), at low ISO. I have so far not been above 1600, so I cannot say how good or bad it´ll be higher up.

UPDATE: When I look at the quality of the published image in sRGB, with size restrictions, it is not in the vicinity of doing the original justice!

 

[Famateur]

Keep up Administrator you are the ONLY person to incorrectly call them taken by a" 5dsr" Considering half the babble on this forum subject is about the difference between the cameras and you are the" grand honcho" it does seem somewhat unforgivable to make such a basic error.Cant blame it on autocorrect either!!

Well I'll be damned. The CR Admins are human after all!

I wonder if the other half of the "babble" is mostly comprised of snide criticisms... :

PS: The title of Grand Honcho is well-deserved. Great website, in my opinion...