snappy604 said:rants and frustrations aside..
have any of the forum members recvieved their 6d mk ii yet and have some RAWs to play with? any comments?
There are plenty members with 6D II, but sadly no CR2 files to play with yet...
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snappy604 said:rants and frustrations aside..
have any of the forum members recvieved their 6d mk ii yet and have some RAWs to play with? any comments?
Pax2You said:Imaging resource had an update on the status of their review saying first shots from a retail unit were posted, but I don't see them
http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/canon-6d-mark-ii/canon-6d-mark-iiA.HTM
bc29 said:jmoya said:So I guess there's no way around it. If I want to edit in lightroom with the 6d mark II I nee to buy the latest lightroom CC? My canon 5d III was doing just fine on lightroom 5 non CC version. There's the other hiccup. I was so upset yesterday getting the new camera in and not being to import files to see them for post.
Adobe updated their website to indicate the 6D mk II is supported in their standalone Lightroom 6, if updated to version 6.12.
https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/kb/camera-raw-plug-supported-cameras.html
Thanks BC29. i just downloaded the latest lightroom. I'm now playing with some of the shots I took yesterday. I shot some at 6400 during the afternoon hours and pulled out the shadows in some trees. maybe 1 stop and theres was plenty of noise. Not impressed. I'll be doing some more and maybe a youtube video over the weekend.
The upgrade from any prior Lightroom version to Lightroom 6 should be USD $79.
bc29 said:jmoya said:So I guess there's no way around it. If I want to edit in lightroom with the 6d mark II I nee to buy the latest lightroom CC? My canon 5d III was doing just fine on lightroom 5 non CC version. There's the other hiccup. I was so upset yesterday getting the new camera in and not being to import files to see them for post.
Adobe updated their website to indicate the 6D mk II is supported in their standalone Lightroom 6, if updated to version 6.12.
https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/kb/camera-raw-plug-supported-cameras.html
So I just bought lightroom 6. Files still don't work. Now I need to update it to 6.12.?
The upgrade from any prior Lightroom version to Lightroom 6 should be USD $79.
anthonyd said:I've been waiting for the 6DmII to upgrade to FF coming from a 60D. I'm more than happy with all the features (yes, even with the tightly packed AF points) but I'm curious about the DR. I never lift shadows by 5ev, so this kind of comments are irrelevant to me, but can someone tell me if I'd be able to do better with the pictures I'm attaching?
These were taken with a 60D last month. The light comes from the sun near sunset, with no clouds and no modifiers or reflectors. Unfortunately when I tried to lift the shadows on the left part of the face by more than 1.5ev, or so, I started seeing patchy noise. As a matter of fact, you can see some noise in what I'm attaching already. I did the lifting by producing two versions (+0ev and +1.5ev) of the image in Canon's DPP4 and did the blending in GIMP using masks. The crops are at full resolution (the pp is rotated by 2 degrees too).
anthonyd said:I've been waiting for the 6DmII to upgrade to FF coming from a 60D. I'm more than happy with all the features (yes, even with the tightly packed AF points) but I'm curious about the DR. I never lift shadows by 5ev, so this kind of comments are irrelevant to me, but can someone tell me if I'd be able to do better with the pictures I'm attaching?
Talys said:Funny thing, by default, it has the guide UI (or whatever it's called) enabled, so when you change exposure modes it tells you, hey, you're in Shutter Priority -- you can go this way to freeze the waterfall, or this way for it to appear flowing! Really? There are people who buy a FF camera who don't understand how exposure modes work? Scary!
Talys said:Funny thing, by default, it has the guide UI (or whatever it's called) enabled, so when you change exposure modes it tells you, hey, you're in Shutter Priority -- you can go this way to freeze the waterfall, or this way for it to appear flowing! Really? There are people who buy a FF camera who don't understand how exposure modes work? Scary!
The camera comes with an inch thick "booklet" that's titled "Basic Instruction Manual"; I'd hate to see the Advanced one.
anthonyd said:I've been waiting for the 6DmII to upgrade to FF coming from a 60D. I'm more than happy with all the features (yes, even with the tightly packed AF points) but I'm curious about the DR. I never lift shadows by 5ev, so this kind of comments are irrelevant to me, but can someone tell me if I'd be able to do better with the pictures I'm attaching?
These were taken with a 60D last month. The light comes from the sun near sunset, with no clouds and no modifiers or reflectors. Unfortunately when I tried to lift the shadows on the left part of the face by more than 1.5ev, or so, I started seeing patchy noise. As a matter of fact, you can see some noise in what I'm attaching already. I did the lifting by producing two versions (+0ev and +1.5ev) of the image in Canon's DPP4 and did the blending in GIMP using masks. The crops are at full resolution (the pp is rotated by 2 degrees too).
Takingshots said:Folks at Canon esp. public relation dept needs to address some of the concerns to ease the anxiety to those who have waited and want to upgrade 6DMKii. This is the right thing to do. ... Put the concerns to rest > what can be fixed or upgraded and what cannot be done because of the specifications(limits).
Confused Man said:Takingshots said:Folks at Canon esp. public relation dept needs to address some of the concerns to ease the anxiety to those who have waited and want to upgrade 6DMKii. This is the right thing to do. ... Put the concerns to rest > what can be fixed or upgraded and what cannot be done because of the specifications(limits).
I have a theory, well to be honest it's more of a wish than a theory.
Imagine if say during mid 2018 Canon brought out a FF Mirrorless camera with a curved sensor and a bunch of prime lenses that were compatible with this new camera. IF that were to happen then bringing out the 6D Mark ii with improved autofocus but a not much improved sensor MIGHT make sense because you would have the following line up:
7D Mark ii (or even Mark iii) for top of the range APS-C with top of the range autofocus capabilities.
6D Mark ii for entry level FF with good autofocus and OK image quality.
Curved Sensor FF Mirrorless for entry level FF with OK autofocus and excellent image quality (and maybe 4k.)
5D Mark iv for professional level does everything FF
5DS R Mark i (or even Mark ii) for professional level FF with top of the range image quality.
Like I say it's just a theory but I can't imagine that Canon didn't notice the 6D Mark ii sensor wasn't a big step forward so it does make you think (hope) there is a bigger strategy.
dak723 said:Confused Man said:Takingshots said:Folks at Canon esp. public relation dept needs to address some of the concerns to ease the anxiety to those who have waited and want to upgrade 6DMKii. This is the right thing to do. ... Put the concerns to rest > what can be fixed or upgraded and what cannot be done because of the specifications(limits).
I have a theory, well to be honest it's more of a wish than a theory.
Imagine if say during mid 2018 Canon brought out a FF Mirrorless camera with a curved sensor and a bunch of prime lenses that were compatible with this new camera. IF that were to happen then bringing out the 6D Mark ii with improved autofocus but a not much improved sensor MIGHT make sense because you would have the following line up:
7D Mark ii (or even Mark iii) for top of the range APS-C with top of the range autofocus capabilities.
6D Mark ii for entry level FF with good autofocus and OK image quality.
Curved Sensor FF Mirrorless for entry level FF with OK autofocus and excellent image quality (and maybe 4k.)
5D Mark iv for professional level does everything FF
5DS R Mark i (or even Mark ii) for professional level FF with top of the range image quality.
Like I say it's just a theory but I can't imagine that Canon didn't notice the 6D Mark ii sensor wasn't a big step forward so it does make you think (hope) there is a bigger strategy.
I have another theory for you. Canon does not believe anything needs to be fixed. Their market research showed that the main features the users wanted to improve on the 6D II were AF and a tilt screen. Their market research showed them that they needed to price the camera as low as possible - definitely under $2,000. Their market research told them that users were completely satisfied (and even more) with the 6D IQ. Their market research showed them that photographers that don't pixel peep had no issues with noise. Their market research showed them that a real photographer doesn't underexpose from 3 to 5 stops, so that type of information is irrelevant. In other words, there should be no anxiety from potential buyers as this camera meets their needs as best as possible at it's price point.