Canon EOS 6D Official Specs

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How much is a good price? You only understand it by comparison with the competitors. In this respect I think that both the 5D3 and the 6D are at least 500$ overpriced. Next comes the question: do I want to buy it even knowing that I'm paying more than I should? In my case the answer is no.
 
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Albi86 said:
How much is a good price? You only understand it by comparison with the competitors. In this respect I think that both the 5D3 and the 6D are at least 500$ overpriced. Next comes the question: do I want to buy it even knowing that I'm paying more than I should? In my case the answer is no.

Agree!!!
 
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Meh said:
They do. They are the 1DX and 5D3... everything below those in the line will be "lesser cameras for a lower price".

The problem is that they cripple the "lesser cameras" so that they're not complete packages, but lack certain important features that force users who can cough up to money to "upgrade": no afma on the 60d (worse than 50d, solution 7d upgrade), no cross point af on the 6d @f2.8+ (worse than 5d2, solution 5d3 upgrade), let's see what's next.

Albi86 said:
do I want to buy it even knowing that I'm paying more than I should?

The next question is: If I am paying more than I should, am I prepared for the 6d to drop $500 in price in no time?
 
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Albi86 said:
Meh said:
As Canon customers it's in our interests (to a degree) to hope Canon is commercially successful with their photography gear because it means they will continue to be profitable and develop new and better photography gear for us to buy, use, and talk about with our fellow photographers.

This is a myth.

If Canon puts crappy or overpriced products on the market and they sell well all the same, this is exactly what they will keep doing. As a Canon user you should only hope that they get their ass kicked so badly to never do that again.

Not sure what you mean by "myth" I don't think my statement is some kind of widely held but false belief. But you're right, if Canon puts out a product and it sells well they will take that as a market signal that they are on the right track and they would be correct in that assessment. If they put out a product and it doesn't sell they will lose money on it and hopefully try a different design next time. It doesn't even have to be an issue of whether the product is great or crappy... only whether it sells well... sometimes products are technically great but don't have mass market appeal. Sometimes crappy products are big winners.

I frankly don't have a strong opinion as to whether the 6D is a great or crappy camera. That is matter of personal preference. There is no question this body will appeal to some people and they will think it's great. Other people, will not be interested because it doesn't meet their needs or is not worth $2k to them.
 
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Canon-F1 said:
Meh said:
They do. They are the 1DX and 5D3... everything below those in the line will be "lesser cameras for a lower price".

the answer is NIKON... more camera for less money at the moment.

That could be true... I don't dispute that because that is a personal choice that each consumer makes. The fact remains thought that Canon can and does make a GREAT camera. The 6D is also a great camera that is less capable but lower priced than a 5D3 or 1DX and some people will love it... but how many, is it a market winner, is Canon on the right track with their line up?

If the 6D was say $1200 the discussion would be entirely different... at that price it's easy to accept that the features are like a top end Rebel but it has a FF sensor. But's it's not $1200.... it's starting out at $2100 and might come down to $1600 in time but not likely lower... is it a winner anywhere in that price range?
 
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Marsu42 said:
Meh said:
They do. They are the 1DX and 5D3... everything below those in the line will be "lesser cameras for a lower price".

The problem is that they cripple the "lesser cameras" so that they're not complete packages, but lack certain important features that force users who can cough up to money to "upgrade": no afma on the 60d (worse than 50d, solution 7d upgrade), no cross point af on the 6d @f2.8+ (worse than 5d2, solution 5d3 upgrade), let's see what's next.

Albi86 said:
do I want to buy it even knowing that I'm paying more than I should?

The next question is: If I am paying more than I should, am I prepared for the 6d to drop $500 in price in no time?

That's exactly right. All lower priced bodies will be less capable than the flagship model of course... but to your point, is this body crippled in ways that put it into a "no man's land" where it appeals to few people. If it's too crippled then enthusiasts/pros won't buy... and if it's priced too high then Rebel customers won't even consider it.
 
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Correction to 6D Spec - Max Shutter is 1/4000

Just checked DP Review and verified on Canon's own site. The 6D's max shutter speed is 1/4000, not 1/8000 as stated on this site.

Another point: I originally got excite and thought this would make a fine backup to my Mark III. Now I realized this is not for pros, but for prosumers. However $1300 or so more than the 60D and even more for T4i is somewhat out of "upgrade" price range for non pros.

What Canon should have done is releasing this camera without GPS and Wireless. Hell, they could even release the whole thing in plastic (it's currently alloy body and top plate plastic) in order to get the price down to $1500 or so, then they really have a winner on their hands. Most crop factor Canon users will want to upgrade.
 
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hawkins132 said:
What Canon should have done is releasing this camera without GPS and Wireless.

yeah that would probaly save 20$ in production cost.

every cheap phone has it today.... ::)

i think you got the wrong impression here.. the price is not so high because of the cost.
 
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yeah that would probaly save 20$ in production cost.

I highly doubt 20$ is all you save for non alloy body, no GPS and Wireless... This camera is aimed to prosumers that wish to upgrade. Canon need to price it for its targeted audience in order to be successful. Especially Nikon D600 already beats the 6D in most specs, the only way Canon can win in the entry full frame war as it stands is by price.
 
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Re: Correction to 6D Spec - Max Shutter is 1/4000

my phone has GPS, WIFI and bluetooth and costs less then 90 bucks. ;D

Actually your phone costs much more. Try to buy it as a replacement without warranty, or not as a new customer. The reason you're getting it for 90 bucks is because you signed the multi-year contract. They make money off your service, not your device.

Look at the GPS and Wifi add-ons for Mark iii and how much they cost.
 
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wifi and gps is what he has quoted.

both features cost next to nothing today compared to the overall price of the camera.

I also stated the possible inclusion of ditching the alloy body and go all plastic. We're going off topic here, the point is Canon needs to find ways to lower the price for the 6D to $1500 to be a WOW factor. I've merely proposed a few ways I thought that are feasible, which I may or may not to be correct, as I'm not in the electronic retail industry.
 
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Re: Correction to 6D Spec - Max Shutter is 1/4000

There are new posters who apparently do not know, or are ignoring the Canon model numbering system. The lower numbers are the better models. Thus, a 6D falls in between a 7D and a 5D, and its priced that way. The major cost element is still the sensor. Drop it to APS-C, and the price could easily drop to $1500.
 
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Marsu42 said:
Meh said:
They do. They are the 1DX and 5D3... everything below those in the line will be "lesser cameras for a lower price".

The problem is that they cripple the "lesser cameras" so that they're not complete packages, but lack certain important features that force users who can cough up to money to "upgrade": no afma on the 60d (worse than 50d, solution 7d upgrade), no cross point af on the 6d @f2.8+ (worse than 5d2, solution 5d3 upgrade), let's see what's next.

This is really the truth. I'm not sure why Canon refuses to compete on a level front with Nikon and Sony. Both companies put GREAT technology in all of their DSLR's, regardless of grade. Obviously there are some key differences, but in general you don't get a hyper-gimped AF system on an entry-level DSLR from Nikon...you get a competitive AF system with multiple cross type points and low-light sensitivity. Why won't Canon COMPETE?! This is getting rather pathetic. Its looking like we will have to wait another full generation before we see high DR sensors or reticular AF in any camera from Canon...let alone in every camera.
 
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hawkins132 said:
Actually your phone costs much more. Try to buy it as a replacement without warranty, or not as a new customer. The reason you're getting it for 90 bucks is because you signed the multi-year contract. They make money off your service, not your device.

nonsense!
every throw away phone has it today.

Look at the GPS and Wifi add-ons for Mark iii and how much they cost.


LOL.. not really an argument.

i can buy a dedicated GPS tracker for 19 euros.
 
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