Canon EOS 6D Official Specs

[psolberg]

if this product was released in isolation, I could be more exited about it. But let's face it, it is expensive since we have 5DmkIIs and even D700s out there which match or best this camera in many areas and can be had for far less money second hand. And compared to the D600 which throws
7D+ grade AF system
100 %VF
Dual SD slots
5.5 fps
4:2:2 HDMI out.
2016 px RGB meter
Higher resolution.

Then it makes you wonder if canon has goten over the hubris episode where it ignores competitor's line ups and counts on its customer-lock in to keep going.

At least it lowers the entry to the FF video crowd like nothing else does so its shortcomings as a photography tool won't matter to them. And I just admit, I didn't think this camera was real since it seemed too much of a reaction to a nikon rumor.

 

[a9000]

For a traveling Zeiss (and other manual/alt lens) shooter the 6D seems perfect, rugged enough but lighter and smaller than the 5D2/3.

It has interchangeable focusing screens, unlike the 5D3. Wifi/GPS I have no use for, but silent shooting mode is nice.

Also, getting robbed or smashing the camera to a rock somewhere will only hurt 60 % as much compared to the 5D3.

It will be interesting to see how the sensor performs, native iso 25600 sounds pretty good.

 

[Fishnose]

I knew you'll say that. I'm leaning now to D600 but I'm still crossing my fingers + toes that 6D sensor will be better or at least perform somewhat close to D600. I love Canon colors. A lot of my friends are using Nikon but somehow they can't produce the colors of Canon. A lot of them got D90 and D7000 but they still envy my pictures. I'd hate to switch but as I said before, I'm at the crossroads. Whatever I choose, I know I'll stick with it for a very long time.

Ah yes... Canon colors. Well, that's easy. Use the vivid setting on any other make of camera and there you are - Canon colors!

Oh and anyway - RAW format lets you fiddle with your colors as much as you like in post.

 

[Fishnose]

But the one thing canon has got going for it, its a pain to change. lenses are better and upgrading the body is simpler than changing systems. Also bodies are around what, 2-3 years? so even if it is not perfect some may still upgrade and have blinkers to the competition. It is more paramount for pros to have the best features as it could be the difference between being paid and not. But if we are talking amateurs just wanting to take pictures then not so much of an issue.

Lenses used to be better. Nowadays Nikon, Sigma and Tamron produce unquestionably good glass, especially for the amateur. And as an amateur, switching system is not that painful. My 2100$ are not going to a company which gives a camera that struggles against the 4 yo 1700$ 5D2.

Yes, this is still a popular misconception amongst Canon users - that Canon produces better glass than Nikon. The reality is different. Nikon lenses are every bit as good as Canon.
It may have been the case in 2004 when Nikon was still new on the DSLR market. But that was a long time ago.

 

[Canon-F1]

wifi.. have you who want wifi ever shoot RAW with one of the wifi grips?

imo it´s a useless feature for RAW shooter.

 

[verysimplejason]

I knew you'll say that. I'm leaning now to D600 but I'm still crossing my fingers + toes that 6D sensor will be better or at least perform somewhat close to D600. I love Canon colors. A lot of my friends are using Nikon but somehow they can't produce the colors of Canon. A lot of them got D90 and D7000 but they still envy my pictures. I'd hate to switch but as I said before, I'm at the crossroads. Whatever I choose, I know I'll stick with it for a very long time.

Ah yes... Canon colors. Well, that's easy. Use the vivid setting on any other make of camera and there you are - Canon colors!

Oh and anyway - RAW format lets you fiddle with your colors as much as you like in post.

Nope. You can approximate but color gradations is still different. A lot of Canon professionals will attest to that. Vivid settings for landscape? Portrait settings, very different. For landscape, you may argue that at vivid settings or more saturation/contrast/hue, you'll be able to approximate the colors for Canon and Nikon either way but for skin colors, I don't think so.

 

[pakosouthpark]

seems to behave very well under low light conditions,
http://web.canon.jp/imaging/eosd/samples/eos6d/

 

[verysimplejason]

seems to behave very well under low light conditions,
http://web.canon.jp/imaging/eosd/samples/eos6d/

High ISO samples are still not available.

 

[chadders]

On a positive note, the presence of internal WiFi would probably compensate for the lack of an articulating screen. If Canon are smart, they would release a free software for PCs and mobile devices to enable full liveview control via a wireless connection.

Which is exactly what they have "done".

 

[pakosouthpark]

seems to behave very well under low light conditions,
http://web.canon.jp/imaging/eosd/samples/eos6d/

High ISO samples are still not available.

yeah but at least on video, have you seen the film deep green? that shot that the girl is holding a lantern is nice!

 

[Ryan_W]

The concept image for the 6D AF is interesting. It's more wide-set than I anticipated.

From Canon's product page:

High Performance Composing and Focus

The EOS 6D has an entirely new 11-point AF system for fast, accurate AF no matter the situation. With its new centered cross-type AF point with EV -3 sensitivity for improved performance and focus in low light, and a newly developed and bright 21mm eye point viewfinder with 97% coverage, the EOS 6D offers impressive performance in both composition and AF, even in the dimmest lighting situations. Offering not only One-Shot AF, AI Servo AF, and AI Focus AF, the EOS 6D’s AI Servo focus can be customized with tracking, acceleration and deceleration tracking sensitivities, and 1st or 2nd image priority adjustments. For even more customization, adjustment levels for the wide-angle and telephoto ends of particular lenses can be entered and recorded into the camera’s memory.

 

[preppyak]

Yes, this is still a popular misconception amongst Canon users - that Canon produces better glass than Nikon. The reality is different. Nikon lenses are every bit as good as Canon.
It may have been the case in 2004 when Nikon was still new on the DSLR market. But that was a long time ago.

Well, it depends what you are looking to do. For example, the Canon T/S lenses are better by a decent margin. But the Nikon 14-24 is better than most other Canon ultra-wide's. Nikon doesn't really have quality, cheaper options like the 24-105L or the 70-200 f/4L IS, but when you get to the next step, they have some similar stuff. Also, their 80-400 isn't as well reviewed as the Canon 100-400. Prime wise, it depends on what you want, but both have decent variety.

 

[psolberg]

I knew you'll say that. I'm leaning now to D600 but I'm still crossing my fingers + toes that 6D sensor will be better or at least perform somewhat close to D600. I love Canon colors. A lot of my friends are using Nikon but somehow they can't produce the colors of Canon. A lot of them got D90 and D7000 but they still envy my pictures. I'd hate to switch but as I said before, I'm at the crossroads. Whatever I choose, I know I'll stick with it for a very long time.

Ah yes... Canon colors. Well, that's easy. Use the vivid setting on any other make of camera and there you are - Canon colors!

Oh and anyway - RAW format lets you fiddle with your colors as much as you like in post.

Nope. You can approximate but color gradations is still different. A lot of Canon professionals will attest to that. Vivid settings for landscape? Portrait settings, very different. For landscape, you may argue that at vivid settings or more saturation/contrast/hue, you'll be able to approximate the colors for Canon and Nikon either way but for skin colors, I don't think so.

honestly, having shot both, post processing has made all of this color issues meaningless and neither system has any meaningful advantage. I'm more concerned about things post processing can't easily overcome. Like single exposure dynamic range which canon trails by a huge margin and the low ISO shadow banding noise that plagues canon sensors.

 

[Marsu42]

The concept image for the 6D AF is interesting. It's more wide-set than I anticipated.

The design shows they really managed to build the anti-5d3 af: no cross type sensor at f2.8+ ...

... this is ridiculous beyond belief, no way to give this a positive spin even if it's up to -3ev. I've shot for a long time with an analog eos620 with no cross-type sensor - the pattern detection simply isn't reliable enough if it's only one point.

From Canon's product page: High Performance Composing and Focus

Canon marketing says otherwise? Well, I'm not quite convinced

 

[verysimplejason]

I knew you'll say that. I'm leaning now to D600 but I'm still crossing my fingers + toes that 6D sensor will be better or at least perform somewhat close to D600. I love Canon colors. A lot of my friends are using Nikon but somehow they can't produce the colors of Canon. A lot of them got D90 and D7000 but they still envy my pictures. I'd hate to switch but as I said before, I'm at the crossroads. Whatever I choose, I know I'll stick with it for a very long time.

Ah yes... Canon colors. Well, that's easy. Use the vivid setting on any other make of camera and there you are - Canon colors!

Oh and anyway - RAW format lets you fiddle with your colors as much as you like in post.

Nope. You can approximate but color gradations is still different. A lot of Canon professionals will attest to that. Vivid settings for landscape? Portrait settings, very different. For landscape, you may argue that at vivid settings or more saturation/contrast/hue, you'll be able to approximate the colors for Canon and Nikon either way but for skin colors, I don't think so.

honestly, having shot both, post processing has made all of this color issues meaningless and neither system has any meaningful advantage. I'm more concerned about things post processing can't easily overcome. Like single exposure dynamic range which canon trails by a huge margin and the low ISO shadow banding noise that plagues canon sensors.

I have only color issues for portrait. I like Canon much better. For landscape or other types of photography, I have no issues with color. And yes, the dynamic range and the banding noise is what I don't want from Canon. The Canon sensor is way behind Nikon with regards to that. I almost always use HDR when taking landscape photos. I just tone the dynamic range and colors down to make it look real. The challenge is when taking something photos of something that moves e.g., sea, people (most often encountered with silhouettes). I hope they manage to increase the DR and tone down that ISO banding noise with 6D.

 

[7enderbender]

I noticed it has 1/8000 instead of 1/4000.

Not according to the specs posted this morning on the US Canon website:

Shutter Speeds
1/4000 to 30 sec., X-sync at 1/180 sec. (Total shutter speed range. Available range varies by shooting mode.)

 

[verysimplejason]

The concept image for the 6D AF is interesting. It's more wide-set than I anticipated.

The design shows they really managed to build the anti-5d3 af: no cross type sensor at f2.8+ ...

... this is ridiculous beyond belief, no way to give this a positive spin even if it's up to -3ev. I've shot for a long time with an analog eos620 with no cross-type sensor - the pattern detection simply isn't reliable enough if it's only one point.

From Canon's product page: High Performance Composing and Focus

Canon marketing says otherwise? Well, I'm not quite convinced

Maybe it's another type of AF completely different from what we've seen so far? I'm going to give Canon the benefit of doubt.

 

[Gothmoth]

Maybe it's another type of AF completely different from what we've seen (in rebel cameras) so far?

another type... you mean a good one? ;D

 

[verysimplejason]

I noticed it has 1/8000 instead of 1/4000.

Not according to the specs posted this morning on the US Canon website:

Shutter Speeds
1/4000 to 30 sec., X-sync at 1/180 sec. (Total shutter speed range. Available range varies by shooting mode.)

I wonder, is this really a hardware limitation or they're just crippling it via software?

 

[verysimplejason]

Maybe it's another type of AF completely different from what we've seen (in rebel cameras) so far?

another type... you mean a good one? ;D

I don't know. My guess is as good as yours. If you go to Canon site here's the AF of 5D2: TTL-CT-SIR AF-dedicated CMOS sensor.
For 6D: TTL secondary image-forming phase-difference detection system with AF-dedicated CMOS sensor.

Different?