Canon EOS 77D Coming Soon [CR2]

[ScottyP]

770d makes sense if that is it. They were burning through the remaining 3-digit names pretty fast, counting as they have in increments of 50 every model.

On the other hand why would they think the European market and the U.S. market are different enough that the former needs an xxx-d naming convention, while the latter would prefer T x - i names?

Maybe they should go ahead and come up with one name for these cameras that can be used in both markets.

 

[AvTvM]

770d makes sense if that is it. They were burning through the remaining 3-digit names pretty fast, counting as they have in increments of 50 every model.

On the other hand why would they think the European market and the U.S. market are different enough that the former needs an xxx-d naming convention, while the latter would prefer T x - i names?

Maybe they should go ahead and come up with one name for these cameras that can be used in both markets.

Canon stupidly wasting lots of money to maintain a "continental segregation" product naming scheme ... Asia / Europe / Americas ... "Kiss" / xxxD / "Digital Rebel". :

How utterly LAUGHABLE in the face of GLOBALIZATION. Logical only to an octagenarian japanese executive ward

 

[benkam]

770d makes sense if that is it. They were burning through the remaining 3-digit names pretty fast, counting as they have in increments of 50 every model.

On the other hand why would they think the European market and the U.S. market are different enough that the former needs an xxx-d naming convention, while the latter would prefer T x - i names?

Maybe they should go ahead and come up with one name for these cameras that can be used in both markets.

Yep, make the Americans change to the more sensible European naming convention and get it done with.

 

[Loswr]

Yep, make the Americans change to the more sensible European naming convention and get it done with.

Bad idea. Big numbers confuse us.

 

[drs]

Perhaps not the right place, but Canon feels more and more like Apple in the '90s. Too many products and the wish to please everyone, but nothing really stands out anymore. Which results in the feeling to wait a little bit longer to get really the next, newest model.

I hope they come to their senses and focus on five or six products (camera wise) and make them really stunning.

I certainly love Canon, but it becomes harder and harder to stay tuned.

 

[Antono Refa]

What wrong with natural progression of using the faster interface when its available? Also faster cards surely will help taking shallow buffer out of equation for these cameras.

Nothing wrong with that at all. Except increased cost for the consumer both in the purchase of the camera, and the cards. If previous generation tech can get the job done, why increase the cost unnecessarily? Also, Rebel's aren't known for having a deep buffer. The 5D Mark IV has 7 FPS and can do around 15-20 RAW files to the SD card (depending on the card used). A Rebel would likely have 5 FPS and thus, many more RAW files in a much longer burst to the SD card with a UHS-I slot. So again I ask, why increase the cost unnecessarily?

A UHS-II slot is compatible with UHS-I / non-UHS card, so there's no price increase on cards.

As for why, I think the logic is...

1. Canon's various camera share electronics, and I expect the memory slots is a reasonable place to do it.

2. Canon's higher end cameras would benefit from UHS-II, e.g. sports camera such as the 1D-X and 7D (both mark whatever / whenever).

3. So I wouldn't be the least surprised if the rebels got UHS-II (due to need in 1D X and parts sharing).

4. Sometimes, Canon tests a new feature on a lower end camera to test & fix it before using it in high end cameras.

Which is why I wouldn't be surprised if UHS-II slot appears in a rebel first, say the 90D.

 

[Don Haines]

Yep, make the Americans change to the more sensible European naming convention and get it done with.

Bad idea. Big numbers confuse us.

Think of it as the metric system for cameras and surely there will be no confusion

 

[Don Haines]

Nothing wrong with that at all. Except increased cost for the consumer both in the purchase of the camera, and the cards. If previous generation tech can get the job done, why increase the cost unnecessarily?

Perhaps because the chip designers no longer design or make interfaces limited to just the previous version of the standard..... Just like nobody is out there designing USB-1 interfaces or selling 10bT hubs.....

 

[AvTvM]

Yep, make the Americans change to the more sensible European naming convention and get it done with.

Bad idea. Big numbers confuse us.

LOL ;D
Boeing 737, 747, 757, 767, 777, 787 ...
Ford F-150, F-250, F350, F-550, F-650, F-750 ...
Terminator T-600, T-800, T-1000 ...

Canon? May give you a "Digital Rebel Kiss" next ...

 

[Maiaibing]

770d makes sense if that is it. They were burning through the remaining 3-digit names pretty fast, counting as they have in increments of 50 every model.

On the other hand why would they think the European market and the U.S. market are different enough that the former needs an xxx-d naming convention, while the latter would prefer T x - i names?

Maybe they should go ahead and come up with one name for these cameras that can be used in both markets.

Yep, make the Americans change to the more sensible European naming convention and get it done with.

Metrics anyone? ;D
Update: ups... can see Don beat me to it!

 

[vscd]

I just hope stupid Canon inplements Uhs-2 Sd slot and adds 4k video. That would be more than enough to upgrade from older cameras.

I can record 4k on the SD slot on the 5D Mark IV. So why is a UHS-II slot needed on a rebel?

Yes, however the 4K implementation on the 5D4 is not compressed at all and aimed at professional usage. Highly doubt that same feature/implementation would be offered in a Rebel series. IF they offered 4K in a Rebel, it would likely be compressed in some form other than MJPEG. If they do this, then maybe it's a sign of Canon finally waking up and not handcuffing their video features?

Did you notice that not using a more compressing codec makes the files larger? The 5DM4 may not have the best mp4-codec on the videos (and there are reasons for that) but the written data is way more than on other cams, so the old Cards seem to be fast enough.

I use CF Cards anyway, I don't trust in SD-Cards with a marketing "90MB/s" on it but a small sign with "U3" which means that only 30MB/s are guaranteed, anyway.

 

[vscd]

Yep, make the Americans change to the more sensible European naming convention and get it done with.

Bad idea. Big numbers confuse us.

Think of it as the metric system for cameras and surely there will be no confusion

I find the whole naming-scheme in the US very confusing. It's not the fault of the people, but hey why would I call a cam "rebel" or "kiss" anyway? The smaller cams are numbers, the others have names? I like a normal numbering-scheme way less confusing. Otherwise, why not calling the 5D "Dragon" and the 1DX "Monsterkiss"?

 

[Loswr]

Yep, make the Americans change to the more sensible European naming convention and get it done with.

Bad idea. Big numbers confuse us.

LOL ;D
Boeing 737, 747, 757, 767, 777, 787 ...
Ford F-150, F-250, F350, F-550, F-650, F-750 ...
Terminator T-600, T-800, T-1000 ...

Canon? May give you a "Digital Rebel Kiss" next ...

Boeing 737, 747, 757, 767, 777, 787 ... In America, we call them planes
Ford F-150, F-250, F350, F-550, F-650, F-750 ... Those are just trucks
Terminator T-600, T-800, T-1000 ..

As for movies, they dropped the III from the title, The Madness of King George III, because almost no one here knows the name of England's king during the Revolutionary War, and people wouldn't go see it because they hadn't already seen The Madness of King George and The Madness of King George II, and no one wants to come in at the last installment of a trilogy.

 

[dak723]

Perhaps not the right place, but Canon feels more and more like Apple in the '90s. Too many products and the wish to please everyone, but nothing really stands out anymore. Which results in the feeling to wait a little bit longer to get really the next, newest model.

I hope they come to their senses and focus on five or six products (camera wise) and make them really stunning.

Camera and sensor technology has pretty much maxed out, so expecting "stunning" is unrealistic. (Of course, if you grew up in the film era, then virtually any DSLR is stunning in comparison, in my opinion). There haven't really been any major advances in many years - it's all been just small evolutionary advances. Short of coming up with an entirely new sensor, camera companies have little choice but to make products that are designed more for a specific category of buyer if they want to continue to come out with new products. I kept my first digital camera for 9 years and there is no really good reason that anyone else can't keep their existing camera for just as long. Now, I do understand that the type of person who visits this forum is not like me and may need the latest and greatest even if that means 5% less noise or 5% more DR. But stunning is not going to happen - perhaps ever again.

 

[cinema-dslr]

Yep, make the Americans change to the more sensible European naming convention and get it done with.

Bad idea. Big numbers confuse us.

LOL ;D
Boeing 737, 747, 757, 767, 777, 787 ...
Ford F-150, F-250, F350, F-550, F-650, F-750 ...
Terminator T-600, T-800, T-1000 ...

Canon? May give you a "Digital Rebel Kiss" next ...

As for movies, they dropped the III from the title, The Madness of King George III, because almost no one here knows the name of England's king during the Revolutionary War, and people wouldn't go see it because they hadn't already seen The Madness of King George and The Madness of King George II, and no one wants to come in at the last installment of a trilogy.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D that made me laugh

 

[AvTvM]

Yep, make the Americans change to the more sensible European naming convention and get it done with.

Bad idea. Big numbers confuse us.

LOL ;D
Boeing 737, 747, 757, 767, 777, 787 ...
Ford F-150, F-250, F350, F-550, F-650, F-750 ...
Terminator T-600, T-800, T-1000 ...

Canon? May give you a "Digital Rebel Kiss" next ...

Boeing 737, 747, 757, 767, 777, 787 ... In America, we call them planes
Ford F-150, F-250, F350, F-550, F-650, F-750 ... Those are just trucks
Terminator T-600, T-800, T-1000 ..

As for movies, they dropped the III from the title, The Madness of King George III, because almost no one here knows the name of England's king during the Revolutionary War, and people wouldn't go see it because they hadn't already seen The Madness of King George and The Madness of King George II, and no one wants to come in at the last installment of a trilogy.

;D ;D ;D

OUCH!

 

[jeffa4444]

In the UK we used to have Ulay but in the US it was called Olay, we had to change to Olay. Opal fruits developed in the Mars UK factory was renamed Starburst because it was called that in the rest of the world.

So it would make sense for Canon to drop the Rebel name and bring it into line with the rest of the world or start a new global naming convention starting say with EOS 77D.

 

[MintChocs]

A double digit will command a higher price!

 

[Loswr]

In the UK we used to have Ulay but in the US it was called Olay, we had to change to Olay. Opal fruits developed in the Mars UK factory was renamed Starburst because it was called that in the rest of the world.

So it would make sense for Canon to drop the Rebel name and bring it into line with the rest of the world or start a new global naming convention starting say with EOS 77D.

By your logic, it would actually make more sense to standardize globally on the Rebel nomenclature.

 

[slclick]

In the UK we used to have Ulay but in the US it was called Olay, we had to change to Olay. Opal fruits developed in the Mars UK factory was renamed Starburst because it was called that in the rest of the world.

So it would make sense for Canon to drop the Rebel name and bring it into line with the rest of the world or start a new global naming convention starting say with EOS 77D.

By your logic, it would actually make more sense to standardize globally on the Rebel nomenclature.

Numbers over lame names any day