Canon eos 77D
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With 24Mpx, 45 AF points, 6fps, wifi and tilty-flippy-touch it really does fit in between the 70D and 80D so 77D is a reasonable name in my book. Looks like a quite nice camera that I'd actually consider if my 70D broke down on me.
It also makes for an interesting baseline for the 6D mark II: The 800D/T7i, 77D and 80D all have alt least 4 out of 5 of 24Mpx, DPAF, tilty-flippy-touch, electronic video stabilisation and 45 AF points.
It also makes for an interesting baseline for the 6D mark II: The 800D/T7i, 77D and 80D all have alt least 4 out of 5 of 24Mpx, DPAF, tilty-flippy-touch, electronic video stabilisation and 45 AF points.
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Going from 70D to 77D you will miss direct af input, its not easy using 19point af on 750/760D and now bump to 45pt af on this one is going to make it even harder. Else the camera does look like decent upgrade over 760D. I am also waiting for 6D mk ii as an potential upgrade to 70D(while dumping 500D and retaining 70D as backup). else for now my 70D and 500D are serving me well. All I need is dual sd slots and 4k video as must have features for my next camera.hne said:
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Hmm. The 750D and the 760D share the same 19-pt PDAF system, but will the 800D get the 45-point system given that the 77D does? I find that rather implausible a priori.
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Sharlin said:
+1. Besides a top LCD, I think it's clear why an XXXD rig just got promoted to XXD status -- 45 AF points is a shocking boost from the prior 19. It would appear the 77D is indeed an '80D-lite'.
But will the 800D get that same treatment? My guess would be no. What does everyone else think?
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I am liking the 45af points.
First, it gives me hope that 6d2 might have a decent number of points if Rebels can have 45.
Second, it could be a cost effective way to add a 1.6x light sports body to the kit, as only just a few years ago people with 7d cameras were crowing about having 19 af points, and clearly it worked. I don't use my cameras to smash walnuts or to bang loose nails back in on my deck so I wouldn't miss the adamantium battle chassis of the more expensive lines.
First, it gives me hope that 6d2 might have a decent number of points if Rebels can have 45.
Second, it could be a cost effective way to add a 1.6x light sports body to the kit, as only just a few years ago people with 7d cameras were crowing about having 19 af points, and clearly it worked. I don't use my cameras to smash walnuts or to bang loose nails back in on my deck so I wouldn't miss the adamantium battle chassis of the more expensive lines.
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My 1dsii has 45 af points, 10 years for the rebel line to catch up. This will be a worthy upgrade for existing users.
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I think one of the biggest differentiators for me is going to be whether or not the 19 point system has a dual cross type center point. Those sound like they actually make cameras work better with shallow DOF and in low light, right now I couldn't care less how many AF points there are, give my more of the ones that work better.
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scrup said:
The 760D replacement is being called the 77D -- it is no longer a Rebel branded product unless I am mistaken. It has been promoted from 'best Rebel' to 'lowest XXD' class.
And it remains to be seen how many AF points the new Rebel, the 800D, will get. That spec was conspicuously absent from what Digicame and Nokish.ita reported. All we know is that DPAF is included and it's 24 MP -- we could logically conclude the 800D will get the M5/M6/80D sensor and AF setup, but we do not know that at present.
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9VIII said:
But the rumor might suggest the 77D is getting the full 80D AF setup, which, from TDP, is:
45 cross-type AF points
(45 f/5.6 cross-type AF points, 27 f/8 points [9 cross-type], centre point is f/2.8 and f/5.6 dual cross-type)
...which we'd all agree is a lot better than 19 cross type points.
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Oh Gee, Should i sell my seven-ty dee? or my Seven dee to buy this seven-ty seven dee? Or just own three?
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neuroanatomist said:
Canon's branding has historically been pretty well ordained and understood.
But between...
- The M --> M2 --> M3 --> M6 coupled with the coexistence of an M10 and M5, and
- There were two Rebel lines--> now there are three Rebel lines --> nope, we're back to two Rebel lines... and now the X0D line has an (X-1)7D little brother
...I am starting to get a headache. It's not as bad as Olympus's overlappy amalgam of Os and Ms and Ds and Es and 1s, but Canon's brand clarity is definitely trending in the wrong direction.
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ahsanford said:
75d would of made sense as they have used the 5/50 in PowerShot models. But this was normally for mid model upgrades.
The more models, the better for consumer for choice on the other hand, it means less movement on price for higher models
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Don't really care if a camera has 45 or 19 AF points. For slow moving or static objects, I almost always use the center AF point, half press the shutter and recompose, or I move the AF point manually.
(I have heard some people argue that recomposing can actually cause a miss-focus due the recompose, I have not noticed that, maybe because I don't have any 1.2 or 1.4 lenses, but for me recompose works every time)
When I shoot our birds, I just don't trust AF, I know where they will be and prefocus on the ground at a distance I know the bird will be at, I turn off AF, and then point the camera to the sky, I know the width of my DoF (I'll be using at least f/5.6 or f/8.0), and I'll burst shoot and I'll get several shots perfectly in focus.
For all the commercials about cameras being able to focus on fast moving subjects, I still don't trust it and don't use it. It's not fast enough and not precise enough, if there's a cloud or tree or anything else in the frame it will miss focus, the camera has no idea that I want to focus on the bird, especially not when it doesn't take up much room in the frame, it will focus on the sky, or cloud, or tree, etc. People say that you can use AF tracking by marking a target with the AF point, I don't know what birds people shoot that allows them to use tracking, but I don't find the time to do this, you can barely see the AF markings on most Canon cameras I tried, let alone do it while looking at a bright sky.
Maybe it's because I'm used to rebel cameras, but the chance that I nail a shot on a fast moving subject by relying on the AF is much smaller than prefocus and creating a large enough DoF. Maybe it works for birds flying high in the sky, but for a fast flying bird a few meters above you, it does not work for me, only prefocus works.
I know people shooting cyclists use this prefocus on the ground trick too. It's the only thing that I trust.
(I have heard some people argue that recomposing can actually cause a miss-focus due the recompose, I have not noticed that, maybe because I don't have any 1.2 or 1.4 lenses, but for me recompose works every time)
When I shoot our birds, I just don't trust AF, I know where they will be and prefocus on the ground at a distance I know the bird will be at, I turn off AF, and then point the camera to the sky, I know the width of my DoF (I'll be using at least f/5.6 or f/8.0), and I'll burst shoot and I'll get several shots perfectly in focus.
For all the commercials about cameras being able to focus on fast moving subjects, I still don't trust it and don't use it. It's not fast enough and not precise enough, if there's a cloud or tree or anything else in the frame it will miss focus, the camera has no idea that I want to focus on the bird, especially not when it doesn't take up much room in the frame, it will focus on the sky, or cloud, or tree, etc. People say that you can use AF tracking by marking a target with the AF point, I don't know what birds people shoot that allows them to use tracking, but I don't find the time to do this, you can barely see the AF markings on most Canon cameras I tried, let alone do it while looking at a bright sky.
Maybe it's because I'm used to rebel cameras, but the chance that I nail a shot on a fast moving subject by relying on the AF is much smaller than prefocus and creating a large enough DoF. Maybe it works for birds flying high in the sky, but for a fast flying bird a few meters above you, it does not work for me, only prefocus works.
I know people shooting cyclists use this prefocus on the ground trick too. It's the only thing that I trust.
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HaroldC3 said:
Yea makes no since to me also...
This is going to do nothing but confuse the heck out of people..
So its a cheap rebel camera body with a semi-pro branding. Yet technically the 70D is still a step up in durability and professional features like MFA, PentaPrism view finder and buffer size to just name a few things..
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TexPhoto said:
We got the EOS 7D, then the 70D, and now the 77D. What's next?
Maybe after 1-2 years later when we get the 90D, we can expect a little sister called 88D.
Or we might get a 8D first?
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