Canon EOS 7D Mark II Not Coming? [CR1]

[Don Haines]

You realize that this rumour pops up right after "he who must not be named" is kicked off of the forum... again.... at least the third time....

The whole thing stinks of M. It is probably a weak attempt at revenge.... make me feel sad for such a sorry pathetic individual....

 

[jrista]

You realize that this rumour pops up right after "he who must not be named" is kicked off of the forum... again.... at least the third time....

The whole thing stinks of M. It is probably a weak attempt at revenge.... make me feel sad for such a sorry pathetic individual....

Don't worry. I used to have a brain tumor that decided to reorganize itself into a specialized radar for "He who must not be named." I now have specifically designed wetware that can sniff out M to within microsecond precision of his inevitable BS landing on the forum. ;P ;D

 

[Don Haines]

Sales of the 70D are slower than expected,

Yes.... if you look at the Amazon Sales ratings....

The 70D with a lens is only number 4 DSLR in sales
The 70D bare body is only #7
The T31 in various packages are #1 and #2 and #19
The 60D in various packages are #9, #10 and #39
The T5i is #18, #22, #23,
The 7D is #38

Obviously APSC is DEAD! and FF will win the sales competition...
< HUGE SARCASM TAG>

The 6D is #11 an #16
The 5D3 is #14 and #21
The 1DX does not show up in the top 100....

It makes perfect sense that Canon will drop a top selling camera to protect one that does not it into the top 100... NOT!!!

 

[Don Haines]

You realize that this rumour pops up right after "he who must not be named" is kicked off of the forum... again.... at least the third time....

The whole thing stinks of M. It is probably a weak attempt at revenge.... make me feel sad for such a sorry pathetic individual....

Don't worry. I used to have a brain tumor that decided to reorganize itself into a specialized radar for "He who must not be named." I now have specifically designed wetware that can sniff out M to within microsecond precision of his inevitable BS landing on the forum. ;P ;D

And just like in Harry Potter, when "He who must not be named" shows up, trouble starts...

 

[jrista]

You realize that this rumour pops up right after "he who must not be named" is kicked off of the forum... again.... at least the third time....

The whole thing stinks of M. It is probably a weak attempt at revenge.... make me feel sad for such a sorry pathetic individual....

Don't worry. I used to have a brain tumor that decided to reorganize itself into a specialized radar for "He who must not be named." I now have specifically designed wetware that can sniff out M to within microsecond precision of his inevitable BS landing on the forum. ;P ;D

And just like in Harry Potter, when "He who must not be named" shows up, trouble starts...

Indeed. (Although, I think I caught onto him pretty quick this last time...I was suspicious of the first new name, Otto...then when the second name showed up using terminology ONLY M has used, I knew it was time to bring the hammer down. I really, really, REEEHEEEHEEEAALLLY don't like that guy......... ???)

 

[dgatwood]

The 6D is #11 an #16

That probably reflects the fact that B&H and Adorama tend to sell the higher-end cameras in packages for the same price as Amazon, but with lots of extras, which would skew the low-end purchases towards Amazon and the high-end purchases towards other companies.

If you look at Flickr stats, there are 10 times as many photos taken with the 6D as with the 70D, with almost 5 times as many average daily users. Even adjusting for the 6D having been on the market twice as long, that suggests that the 70D probably isn't doing as well as one would hope.

 

[kjay27]

On Feb 1, 2013, Canon CEO Masaya Maeda said that the future of APS-C at the semi-pro level is in
doubt. "That's something we're considering at the moment. From our semi-pro users there's still
demand for APS-C but in the future, I think we will see an increase in the number of full-frame
models." Could it be that they may be starting to implement his strategy?
http://www.dpreview.com/articles/0336328811/cp-2013-interview-with-canons-masaya-maeda

 

[jrista]

On Feb 1, 2013, Canon CEO Masaya Maeda said that the future of APS-C at the semi-pro level is in
doubt. "That's something we're considering at the moment. From our semi-pro users there's still
demand for APS-C but in the future, I think we will see an increase in the number of full-frame
models." Could it be that they may be starting to implement his strategy?
http://www.dpreview.com/articles/0336328811/cp-2013-interview-with-canons-masaya-maeda

Maeda was only saying there that he thinks there will be an increase in demand for FF parts, not that they would eliminate APS-C parts. He also clearly stated that there WAS still demand for APS-C parts from semi-pro users, a statement that was logically decoupled from the idea that there would be an increase in the number of full frame camera models. In other words...there is no reason we couldn't see an 8D and a 9D, both of which were full frame, offering some unique subset of features distinct from the 7D (APS-C line) and 6D (cheap entry level FF line.)

 

[kjay27]

I guess it depends on how you read the article. I probably took the following part of the interview too literally, and possibly out of context: "Canon CEO Masaya Maeda said that the future of APS-C at the semi-pro level is in doubt." --And, of course, it could have been a misquote as well.

 

[ScottyP]

I don't understand this tip. "No 7d coming - a friend." Does the cryptic "a friend" imply this was an anonymous tip? If so, why is it credible enough to print? But if it wasn't anonymous, why was it signed with "A friend"? ???

Perhaps printing this rumor may flush out a solid tip from some other sources who were not saying anything before, but who want to clarify or repudiate this tip.

 

[unfocused]

I guess it depends on how you read the article. I probably took the following part of the interview too literally, and possibly out of context: "Canon CEO Masaya Maeda said that the future of APS-C at the semi-pro level is in doubt." --And, of course, it could have been a misquote as well.

You're reading a paraphrase from the interviewer. It's not a direct quote from Masaya Maeda. Always take a reporter's paraphrasing with a large grain of salt, they interpret based on their own biases and what they want to hear.

 

[jrista]

I guess it depends on how you read the article. I probably took the following part of the interview too literally, and possibly out of context: "Canon CEO Masaya Maeda said that the future of APS-C at the semi-pro level is in doubt." --And, of course, it could have been a misquote as well.

I don't believe that was a Maeda quote. The only thing Maeda said was, well, two things:

1) We still see demand for a semi-pro APS-C
2) We think we will see increased demand for semi-pro FF

Those two statements are both true, and neither is mutually exclusive with the other. In other words, we will continue to see BOTH at the semi-pro level from Canon. The 7D and 6D lines fit in perfectly with #1 and #2.

 

[sanj]

You realize that this rumour pops up right after "he who must not be named" is kicked off of the forum... again.... at least the third time....

The whole thing stinks of M. It is probably a weak attempt at revenge.... make me feel sad for such a sorry pathetic individual....

What am I missing? I want to know. Pls pls. A little gossip this Sunday.

 

[sanj]

You might have only needed a 400mm lens on a crop but now you need a 600mm on a FF so it encourages sales of more expensive lenses.

That is simply not true. A 400mm lens on a cropped FF image is exactly the same as 400mm on a crop sensor.

But the end picture is NOT.

 

[CarlTN]

This whole rumor smacks of baiting. They want to see how many people are upset by the prospect of not getting a 7D2...I'm not upset, personally. But I also think Canon need to consider some sort of crop feature for both pro and semi-pro sports bodies. Because just like a few years ago, the megapixel count keeps climbing, and so does the frame-per-second. Processing power and memory storage are not cheap and consume a lot of battery life...and large MP images consume a lot of computer drive space and processing time. A sports shooter, or low light wildlife shooter, does not usually need 40+ MP on a full frame camera at 10, 12, 14, or 16 frames per second. But they could use a similar featured sensor that could suddenly be switched to 1.2x. 1.3, 1.4. 1.5. 1.6...or 2x crop mode, and so on...for those really fast action sequences. Nikon did it, and they did it first (made a full frame pro sensor switchable to a crop mode)...eventually Canon will do it better!

 

[greger]

Back in February of this year I read an interview that was going around and came to the conclusion that as there was to be a 70D from Canon eventually but no 7Dll. The future of the semi pro camera would be FF. I believe that is still so.

IT might cost more than $1.500.00 but it will still be FF. I don't think Canon would want to sell a camera that would kill 5D mark lll sales.

 

[CarlTN]

Back in February of this year I read an interview that was going around and came to the conclusion that as there was to be a 70D from Canon eventually but no 7Dll. The future of the semi pro camera would be FF. I believe that is still so.

IT might cost more than $1.500.00 but it will still be FF. I don't think Canon would want to sell a camera that would kill 5D mark lll sales.

Or they wouldn't want to sell a camera that the 5D3 sales would kill?

 

[Rienzphotoz]

You might have only needed a 400mm lens on a crop but now you need a 600mm on a FF so it encourages sales of more expensive lenses.

That is simply not true. A 400mm lens on a cropped FF image is exactly the same as 400mm on a crop sensor.

But the end picture is NOT.

+1 ... also, the cropped image from a FF is only 8 MP, whereas the cropped sensor gives you 18mp of detail.

 

[candc]

i like the idea of a big mp ff camera with a crop mode just like the nikon d800. problem is with an optical viewfinder you see a red crop square, but your view in the finder doesn't change. i think you need an electronic viewfinder for that to be a really useful feature so that what you see is what you get. now we are talking about mirrorless not dslr's

 

[crasher8]

IMO the 7D was a landmark STILLS body. With Canon's video 'obsession' it would be a shame that it's next iteration would be a video driven body.