Canon EOS 80D in Stock at B&H Photo

[Canon Rumors]

The brand new Canon EOS 80D is now <a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search/atclk/Ntt/canon+80d/N/0/InitialSearch/yes/sts/ma/Top+Nav-Search/BI/2466/KBID/3296/DFF/d10-v1-t14" target="_blank">in stock and ready to ship</a> from B&H Photo. The body only as well as the lens kits are all available.</p>
<p>DPReview has found that the EOS 80D has <a href="http://www.dpreview.com/news/7168986570/canon-shows-dynamism-eos-80d-breaks-new-ground-for-canon-low-iso-dr" target="_blank">“broken new ground” for Canon in low ISO dynamic range performance</a>, which is great news for Canon shooters.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search/atclk/Ntt/canon+80d/N/0/InitialSearch/yes/sts/ma/Top+Nav-Search/BI/2466/KBID/3296/DFF/d10-v1-t14" target="_blank">Canon EOS 80D in stock at B&H Photo</a></strong></p>
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[Maiaibing]

has “broken new ground” in low ISO dynamic range performance

Actually its: "EOS 80D breaks new ground for Canon low ISO DR". Some will mind the difference.

 

[Maiaibing]

Better than the 70D for sure. But overall it looks like less than "new ground" to me.

Am I the only one that does not think the 80D looks better (reduced to same sizes) than the 5DS/R @ev+5? And even at +ev0 to +ev2 not really better at all...? [Leaving aside the fact that DPReview insists on using the notoriously flawed Adobe LR color space for the 5DS/R for "fairness" reasons]

Anyway, always welcome with steps in the right direction, "new ground" or not.

 

[Etienne]

Better than the 70D for sure. But overall it looks like less than "new ground" to me.

Am I the only one that does not think the 80D looks better (reduced to same sizes) than the 5DS/R @ev+5? And even at +ev0 to +ev2 not really better at all...? [Leaving aside the fact that DPReview insists on using the notoriously flawed Adobe LR color space for the 5DS/R for "fairness" reasons]

Anyway, always welcome with steps in the right direction, "new ground" or not.

You'd have to compare the same image taken at the same time under the same conditions. Higher Dynamic Range is not going to be apparent in every shot, and can't be seen by comparing different shots from different locations etc

 

[Maiaibing]

You'd have to compare the same image taken at the same time under the same conditions. Higher Dynamic Range is not going to be apparent in every shot, and can't be seen by comparing different shots from different locations etc

I was referring to the chart shots at dpreview. Have to believe they are consistent (?).

 

[Canon Rumors]

has “broken new ground” in low ISO dynamic range performance

Actually its: "EOS 80D breaks new ground for Canon low ISO DR". Some will mind the difference.

You are correct, I updated the post.

 

[Khufu]

Is this thing smaller and lighter than the 70D, or did I see some dodgy stats somewhere? (Well, I read it's lighter, not sure about dimensions)
I know this isn't everyone's reason for buying an XXD series camera </gross understatement> but I really like the small, solid chunkiness of the 70D compared to 60D and the 7D bodies have always struck me as a bit ridiculous
(yeah, I'm also a fan of the SL1! Shame they made its fps/buffer performance lame after developing that nifty shutter mechanism, giving it THE best Canon APS-C sensor and high-end screen... was almost a super-camera of sorts!)

 

[slclick]

Is this thing smaller and lighter than the 70D, or did I see some dodgy stats somewhere? (Well, I read it's lighter, not sure about dimensions)
I know this isn't everyone's reason for buying an XXD series camera </gross understatement> but I really like the small, solid chunkiness of the 70D compared to 60D and the 7D bodies have always struck me as a bit ridiculous
(yeah, I'm also a fan of the SL1! Shame they made its fps/buffer performance lame after developing that nifty shutter mechanism, giving it THE best Canon APS-C sensor and high-end screen... was almost a super-camera of sorts!)

 

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Just use the tool of DPreview and compare the 80D with D7200 or even D5500. It looks absolutely hideous in comparison, full of noise and false colours.
Since when should we applaud a premium and very expensive company that makes an improvement compared to its own ridiculous products (in term of DR) when they dont even meet the competition level of 2 years ago???

I appreciate Canon for their lenses and their ergonomics and reliability.
It is really a shame that they fall back like this in some areas. I don't consider it normal to have more post processing latitude and DR with a 500$ D5300 than with a 3000$ 5dIII. And I owned both and did my best images with the former.

 

[Etienne]

Just use the tool of DPreview and compare the 80D with D7200 or even D5500. It looks absolutely hideous in comparison, full of noise and false colours.
Since when should we applaud a premium and very expensive company that makes an improvement compared to its own ridiculous products (in term of DR) when they dont even meet the competition level of 2 years ago???

I appreciate Canon for their lenses and their ergonomics and reliability.
It is really a shame that they fall back like this in some areas. I don't consider it normal to have more post processing latitude and DR with a 500$ D5300 than with a 3000$ 5dIII. And I owned both and did my best images with the former.

I wish Canon was best at everything too, but it's the overall package that you have to live with.

I'm using the 5D3, but I'm considering an 80D as well. The touchscreen with DPAF combo would be very handy for video (no other DSLR has this), especially for solo interviews, and extra DR is a step in the right direction.

 

[Etienne]

You'd have to compare the same image taken at the same time under the same conditions. Higher Dynamic Range is not going to be apparent in every shot, and can't be seen by comparing different shots from different locations etc

I was referring to the chart shots at dpreview. Have to believe they are consistent (?).

Ok, makes sense. My bad.

 

[Etienne]

Is this thing smaller and lighter than the 70D, or did I see some dodgy stats somewhere? (Well, I read it's lighter, not sure about dimensions)
I know this isn't everyone's reason for buying an XXD series camera </gross understatement> but I really like the small, solid chunkiness of the 70D compared to 60D and the 7D bodies have always struck me as a bit ridiculous
(yeah, I'm also a fan of the SL1! Shame they made its fps/buffer performance lame after developing that nifty shutter mechanism, giving it THE best Canon APS-C sensor and high-end screen... was almost a super-camera of sorts!)

The size/weight differences between the 60D-70D-80D are miniscule. The 7D is bigger and heavier.

 

[Adelino]

Just use the tool of DPreview and compare the 80D with D7200 or even D5500. It looks absolutely hideous in comparison, full of noise and false colours.
Since when should we applaud a premium and very expensive company that makes an improvement compared to its own ridiculous products (in term of DR) when they dont even meet the competition level of 2 years ago???

I appreciate Canon for their lenses and their ergonomics and reliability.
It is really a shame that they fall back like this in some areas. I don't consider it normal to have more post processing latitude and DR with a 500$ D5300 than with a 3000$ 5dIII. And I owned both and did my best images with the former.

It would be a rare company that beats the competition in every way. I, for one am happy that Canon is catching up in this regard. Hopefully they keep pushing and catch up or surpass the Sony sensors. (not holding my breath though)

 

[rrcphoto]

Better than the 70D for sure. But overall it looks like less than "new ground" to me.

Am I the only one that does not think the 80D looks better (reduced to same sizes)

well, you may be the only one that would do such a comparison.

considering they are different sensor sizes, and the 80D sensor would be around 62MP full frame.

 

[rrcphoto]

Just use the tool of DPreview and compare the 80D with D7200 or even D5500. It looks absolutely hideous in comparison, full of noise and false colours.
Since when should we applaud a premium and very expensive company that makes an improvement compared to its own ridiculous products (in term of DR) when they dont even meet the competition level of 2 years ago?

did you also take into account the extreme color cast the D7200 does under extreme pushes? and how difficult that would be to change, since the tint / cast would change depending on how much you pushed each pixel?

not to mention, using the same tool, it's really only around 2/3EV's off the D7200. also keep in mind there's some spaitial filtering as the NEF for the D7200 normalizes the black level - a CR2 does not.

and the 80D maintains far better colors.

and it's far better than the A6000 which apparently was no slouch.

 

[Jopa]

Canon users rejoice Can't wait for an improved 5dsr version now. But so far the plan is as follows:
1. Buy an 80D
2. Start taking underexposed images
3. Lift exposure +5 stops in PP
4. ????????
5. Profit!

 

[ironfreak]

I still think that D7200 beats 80D.

Nikon offers excellent package in terms of vivid colors, low noise at high ISO, build quality and Nikkor lenses are also very good, I mean equally good as Canon's lenses. But Nikon's body feels solid in hand. I am not generalizing, but this is what I felt when I used D7100 and EOS 70D. Also, D750 rocks! I am not very expert to understand too much technology of color measurement, EV + or - values. But talking in terms of serious hobbyst or semi pro.

But I'm eagerly waiting for EOS 5D Mark IV or 5DX, whichever is that! (Because I so loved 5D Mark III...)

So, if given chance, I'd pick D7200 over 80D.

 

[slclick]

I still think that D7200 beats 80D.

Nikon offers excellent package in terms of vivid colors, low noise at high ISO, build quality and Nikkor lenses are also very good, I mean equally good as Canon's lenses. But Nikon's body feels solid in hand. I am not generalizing, but this is what I felt when I used D7100 and EOS 70D. Also, D750 rocks! I am not very expert to understand too much technology of color measurement, EV + or - values. But talking in terms of serious hobbyst or semi pro.

But I'm eagerly waiting for EOS 5D Mark IV or 5DX, whichever is that! (Because I so loved 5D Mark III...)

So, if given chance, I'd pick D7200 over 80D.

So, you'd get the Nikon over the Canon, is that what you're saying?

 

[ScottyP]

Assuming reviews continue to come in positive, and assuming the price drops in 6 months, this is all the second camera/sports camera I need. The 7d2 is a bit of overkill for my sports uses, and this 80d sensor is probably better anyway.

On the other hand, what of the full frame lines? What will Canon do with the 6d2; more than a 19 point AF upgrade I hope? And will the 5d4 really give something great? My 6d could become my 2nd camera to either of those bodies.

I also think I could realistically see myself paralyzed with indecision for the next year too, but I can't decide that either.

 

[slclick]

Assuming reviews continue to come in positive, and assuming the price drops in 6 months, this is all the second camera/sports camera I need. The 7d2 is a bit of overkill for my sports uses, and this 80d sensor is probably better anyway.

On the other hand, what of the full frame lines? What will Canon do with the 6d2; more than a 19 point AF upgrade I hope? And will the 5d4 really give something great? My 6d could become my 2nd camera to either of those bodies.

I also think I could realistically see myself paralyzed with indecision for the next year too, but I can't decide that either.

I know what you mean. I haven't had a 2nd body in some time and currently have nothing faster than f/2. Holding out on new releases vs deals on current gear can be maddening!