Canon EOS R1. Canon’s Flagship Re-Invented.
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> Canon never holds anything back when it comes to the 1 series. It gets it all.
Nah, the EOS-3 had eye-choice of focus point (I think now called eye AF, as distinct from AF that finds and focuses on eyes) but the 1 hasn't had it yet. There have been other things the EOS-5's have had the 1 hasn't over the years.
Nah, the EOS-3 had eye-choice of focus point (I think now called eye AF, as distinct from AF that finds and focuses on eyes) but the 1 hasn't had it yet. There have been other things the EOS-5's have had the 1 hasn't over the years.
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wouldn't they always have something to protect the sensor when the camera's just sitting pointed at the sun or similar? Or protect against dust when a lens is off?
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The EOS-1Ds's were $7-8k but there's been a spate of inflation since then, plus, sales volumes are far smaller now so R&D costs have to be amortized over a lower sales volume.
There has to be some MASSIVE difference between this and the R3. I don't pretend to know what it is, but basically, unlike all the other models where they have a price point and figure out what they can fit in, this one has everything they can think of and then they calculate the price. (The 1 line might even be a loss leader halo product, so retail price needn't be the kind of price calculated from R&D plus marginal production cost like a mass-market product.)
For instance, it might have literally $4000 more of computer inside running some AI feature that the R3 doesn't. Something like that wouldn't necessarily fit a quantitative bullet point.
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I was convinced back in the 90s by a friend (who favored really old Leica M's and Rollei's) that if you're going to shoot the current model, it's probably no more expensive in the long run to upgrade every generation than to skip.
For instance, if upgrading MkI to MkII costs $1500 and upgrading MkII to MkIII cost $1600, then you might find jumping from MkI to MkIII could cost $3100. To the extent this is right, skipping an upgrade doesn't save you money, but there will be a 4 year period where you're shooting MkI yet could be shooting MkII for free.
So even if the MkII doesn't have anything compelling, I'd be upgrading anyway. My experience upgrading 1N 1V 1Ds MkI II III was that there was always a significant amount of improvement even in non-headline areas.
And the R5 MkII will have the eye AF (whereby focus point can be choice by your gaze), which to me is the killer app upgrade. Even though I don't need it for cityscapes, I totally need it for my kid's soccer game. I just can't joystick the sensor around fast enough. So instead of doing the compose I want, I instead keep the AF box over the kid even when that makes a poor composition. And while I'd like him in focus and the other kids a little out of focus, I sometimes just make a much smaller aperture and let the camera track the whole group of kids, so then I have high ISO noise or subject movement, etc. etc. Eye AF should solve this problem to some extent, and that's worth upgrading, especially as upgrading will be more or less free, according to my buddy's rule.
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I agree with your point, but just an answer to the rhetorical question: I've worked in software dev a long time and sometimes we put together sample data to test things. Layout artists famously use a "lorem ipsum" text as a standard sample, yet sometimes that excapes into the wild and you'll see it on web pages. So when I was building on-line brokerage systems in 1998-1999, I'd make price movement graphs that were bogus, just to have something vaguely realistic to look at.
In this case, maybe they have to choose a font, and a number of bullet points, and don't want it to look too busy, and want to know if the display area is wide enough to handle the kind of actual data they'd have to display once they have actual data, so they put in data cut and paste from a rumor site to test all this stuff. Is 20 bullet points too many? Too little? What's it really look like? How many words long are the bullet points we'll be using? Let's put an example on the screen.
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Yes, but they're not building a one-off unique website. They're filling in a product description page and they literally have hundreds of other similar pages. They have standard templates for cameras. There's no need to test the future page using content from a rumours site. And before publishing it, no doubt there's a preview.
That's why it looks very strange.
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The nikon z9 has such a ‘shutter’, it is only used to protect the sensor.
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Why? The R3 is now 3 years old and has seen significant discounts in the past year (it’s $4500 from Canon today and available from authorized dealers for $4000, 33% off list). An R1 launching at $6500-7000 will a similar price differential as the R5 to the R3 at launch.
More likely, the R1 will be an evolutionary step up from the 1-series DSLR’s, with a significant (for the line) bump in MP (e.g., 20 to 30) and fps.
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They have no idea what the real specs are or aren't.
Only Canon could provide a rebuttal.
If Adorama did actually know then they would be contractually required not to tell us.
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Agreed with what is stated above. A bump from 20 to 30 MP especially if it is a DGO sensor is NOT insignificant and for me 30 MP is more than enough to work with for wildlife photography.
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The DGO sensor explained
How the EOS C300 Mark III and EOS C70 deliver 16+ stops of dynamic range by blending high and low gain images using Canon's revolutionary new DGO sensor technology.
www.canon-europe.com
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Except I don't see how it handles the scenario for sensor cleaning...
"What’s interesting about the mechanism described in the patent text is that it’s entirely passive. Instead of being powered by a motor, the mechanism automatically opens when a lens is twisted into the lens mount and closes as the lens is removed from the lens mount, thanks to an array of integrated levers and springs"
I have no doubts that Canon would have a protective curtain against dust when changing lenses if they removed the mechanical shutter.
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I think they'll keep it from obviously losing money, but I do believe everyone will be impressed even if they only find complaints.
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I kind of do wish it was mechanical instead of electronic.
Currently, adding and removing lenses that do not have electronic connections does not open or close the shutter.
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That's "dual gain output", which is not the same as "dual gain". For example, the R5 has dual gain (at ISO 100 and 400) but unfortunately it can't produce combined output.The DGO sensor explained
How the EOS C300 Mark III and EOS C70 deliver 16+ stops of dynamic range by blending high and low gain images using Canon's revolutionary new DGO sensor technology.
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