Canon EOS R6 Mark III & RF 45 F1.2 STM November 6

I love* how whenever anything is rumoured/announced, the vast majority of comments are negative. A budget f/1.2! Yet here everyone is moaning about the precise type of focus motor :rolleyes:

*not really
Sick, isn't it? It seems negativity about absolutely everything is becoming a hobby or obsession to some. Nit picking over nothing. $599 seems a steal to me.
 
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Which is shameful. No one should be selling lenses at that price point with mechanical stepping motors in them.
Only thing that is shameful are your comments. Blabbing and complaining in a very polemical manner. You are not even differentiating the different types of STM (even though they've been pointed out in this thread), getting facts wrong (USM motors instead of STM) and your not providing any proof and that you've actually tested all these lenses or that your statement rely on test results. It is actually so embarrassing, that I feel embarrassed reading and commenting on those posts. In Germany, we have a word called "fremdscham", meaning you feel ashamed for somebody else's actions although you have absolutely nothing to do with them. It is kind of fitting here...

But from now on, I'll just completely ignore your posts since they are actually irrelevant.
 
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I love* how whenever anything is rumoured/announced, the vast majority of comments are negative. A budget f/1.2! Yet here everyone is moaning about the precise type of focus motor :rolleyes:

*not really
So true! Interestingly, those people who always complain mostly don´t even have websites/ social media/ online galleries with great work posted (not saying they don´t have, but they don't show it). The people who show their (amazing/ great/ fill in an adjective of your choice) work never hit me as "complaining" about gear. I recently stumbled over an article about an astrophotographers who creates amazing images using entry level gear. Looking at his images, I thought "wow" and that´d understand if would complain about certain lenses which fail to achieve this kind of work. But, he doesn't complain and he stated in an article that gear talk is absolutely overrated :)
 
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Ok so the only new thing is that it confirmed what was expected: no top LCD for R6 MK3. They will keep this for more expensive series.
I wouldn’t mind if it’s a bit more expensive but I don’t like the size and weight of the R5. I’ve tried it, I returned it. It doesn’t look that different on the paper but it’s just doesn’t feel comfortable.
The original EOS R was the best form factor for me but no IBIS, no rear wheel etc.
 
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Have you tried this lens yourself? The STM works quickly and quietly, even in poorly lit conditions. So, why add a USM when the STM is sufficient? Seems like a good business decision to me.
Because a magnetic linear system is faster, smoother, more accurate. Instant torque. And somehow Sony manages to put it into $100 kit lenses. Why is Canon using STM in $2k L lenses? And how is it possible that you're defending this? You know you don't have to be blindly loyal, right?
 
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You are wrong (again). The RF200-800mm has a nano-USM motor.

See: https://www.canon-europe.com/lenses/rf-200-800mm-f6-3-9-is-usm/
Yep, I was wrong about the type of motor. More than happy to admit it.

It doesn't change that Canon still cut corners and put a budget nano-USM AF motor into this lens. Not quite as bad as STM would have been but not as fast as it should be. I don't understand why Sony can put a magnetic linear drive motor into a $100 kit lens and Canon can't do this for a lens priced at $2250.
 
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Only thing that is shameful are your comments. Blabbing and complaining in a very polemical manner. You are not even differentiating the different types of STM (even though they've been pointed out in this thread), getting facts wrong (USM motors instead of STM) and your not providing any proof and that you've actually tested all these lenses or that your statement rely on test results. It is actually so embarrassing, that I feel embarrassed reading and commenting on those posts. In Germany, we have a word called "fremdscham", meaning you feel ashamed for somebody else's actions although you have absolutely nothing to do with them. It is kind of fitting here...

But from now on, I'll just completely ignore your posts since they are actually irrelevant.
I don't understand why people defend Canon cutting corners instead of demanding better from them. You pay good money for your glass, it shouldn't come with budget AF. When the competition is putting a magnetic linear motor into a $100 kit lens, Canon should be able to put high performance AF motors into every lens too.
 
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Yep, I was wrong about the type of motor. More than happy to admit it.

It doesn't change that Canon still cut corners and put a budget nano-USM AF motor into this lens. Not quite as bad as STM would have been but not as fast as it should be. I don't understand why Sony can put a magnetic linear drive motor into a $100 kit lens and Canon can't do this for a lens priced at $2250.
How is magnetic-linear, whatever better than nano-USM? The RF 70-200 has nano-USM and that lens is lighting fast and accurate. So where is the problem? Or you are one of those people who cares more about names and specs and actual results?
 
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I think it's in the same market segment of the recent Nikon Z 50mm 1.4, which costs 1/3 or 1/4 of the top 50mm 1.4 lenses.
You mean this 45? Yes, I agree

Which is shameful. No one should be selling lenses at that price point with mechanical stepping motors in them.
You should probably try it before judging. I tried the lens about two weeks ago, it's as fast as a nano USM.

How is magnetic-linear, whatever better than nano-USM? The RF 70-200 has nano-USM and that lens is lighting fast and accurate. So where is the problem? Or you are one of those people who cares more about names and specs and actual results?
While I have no complaints of autofocus performance on nano USM lenses, VCM lenses are still faster, and I have to recognise that Sony's 50-150mm f/2 focuses a little faster than my RF 70-200mm f/2.8 - I tried the Sony three days ago, with the A1 II. It is, however, a more recent lens, and I'm yet to try the RF 70-200mm Z.

So far, the fastest nano USM lens I tried is the RF 135mm f/1.8. I found it to be a little faster than my 70-200 as well, probably as fast as VCM lenses.

Well, there are 4 different STM motors in Canon's chest.. sounds like an article.
Sounds good(y)
 
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Because a magnetic linear system is faster, smoother, more accurate. Instant torque. And somehow Sony manages to put it into $100 kit lenses. Why is Canon using STM in $2k L lenses? And how is it possible that you're defending this? You know you don't have to be blindly loyal, right?
Faster perhaps. Smoother and more accurate is more questionable. Depending on the design and reduction ratios, stepper motors can actually be orders of magnitude more precise. Both offer instant torque.
 
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Good catch! But honestly I don't see anything interesting on that camera, except that it really seems to be a new one.

But it would be interesting, which white lens is attached to that 2x extender ;)
Could this be a new one? Or is it an already released one?

It doesn't have to have much.
14 bit raw for e-shutter (instead of 12bit),
faster readout speeds.
its a win.
 
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I think it's in the same market segment of the recent Nikon Z 50mm 1.4, which costs 1/3 or 1/4 of the top 50mm 1.4 lenses.
The Nikon "fast and cheap" Nikon Z lenses have noticeable vignetting and need to be used at F2 or F2.8 to get the best sharpness, they say.

But, for some portraits, extreme sharpness is not necessary).

If you mean the new supposedly 45 f1.2 yes, that might be.

If your talking about the Sigma 40 1.4 Art, the thing is as sharp, if not sharper, then the RF 50 f1.2 L, is basically the best std lens ever built considering the price (around 800€ new), and by a wide margin, see for yourself

 
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Yep, I was wrong about the type of motor. More than happy to admit it.

It doesn't change that Canon still cut corners and put a budget nano-USM AF motor into this lens. Not quite as bad as STM would have been but not as fast as it should be. I don't understand why Sony can put a magnetic linear drive motor into a $100 kit lens and Canon can't do this for a lens priced at $2250.
The Canon Nano USM is already a linear motor. So is it in the 200-800mm also.
Sony DDSM was the equivalent technology of Nano USM, both are piezoelectric linear motors, but Canons appears to function better imho.

Canon VCM, Sony XD Linear Motors, Nikons SSVCM, Tamron VXD, and Sigmas HLA all use voice coil linear motors. There are advantages to voice coils, and disadvantages.
 
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