there's clearly a point above which companies can be deemed to have monopoly power and arguably Canon is above it.
Oh really? Could you present me a cogent, succinct, logical argument explaining why that is? I haven’t heard one yet.
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there's clearly a point above which companies can be deemed to have monopoly power and arguably Canon is above it.
Everyone can go bankrupt. However, if the profit margins on this market are in the lenses, those who open their body mounts to 3rd party lens manufacturers are more likely to go bankrupt.Guess people that buy expensive camera's today will do some research beforehand. If they can't afford the RF lenses, they will just go to Sony, Nikon, etc were 3rd party lenses are available. So Canon might be sacrificing market share in the long run and still go bankrupt...
Yes. For example, VueScan in around 2000.Were you buying software prior to the Apple App Store that was established in 2008?
Or downloads from the manufacturer's website.Prior to that year software distribution was primary through physical disks like CDs, DVDs and floppies.
Lol. I don’t have an medical degree, nor do I see patients. I just have no compunction about ridiculing people who make ridiculous comments.Don't mind him. He's using online forums to vomit out his bedside manner. He cannot exactly do that to his patients or else no one would pay for his services.
I think that it's the sprinkling of the occasional ad hominem attacks amongst the facts you provide (when you get frustrated with people or have had a bad day at work) that get's people a bit off side lol!Well, if you don’t like facts and data feel free to ignore my posts. if your understanding of those things is at the same level as your emotional maturity, that’s probably for the best because you won’t understand them anyway.
A world in which nearly twice as many people continue to buy Canon instead of Sony.Welcome to the brave new world, where there is always the option to buy Sony lol!
Lol. As I said, ridiculous statements engender ridicule, and I’d add that asinine statements make people who make them look like asses.I think that it's the sprinkling of the occasional ad hominem attacks amongst the facts you provide (when you get frustrated with people or have had a bad day at work) that get's people a bit off side lol!
Honestly, what answer do you expect? There is no statement from Sigma itself and their CEO´s probably told everybody to shut the ****** until they've figured things out on their own or successfully negotiate with Canon. So, you won't get an answer that you can count on.Next month I will likely visit Germany's largest remaining photo fair "Photopia" (unfortunately Photokina is dead) and there Canon, Sigma and Tamron will all show their latest glass. I will ask the Tamron and Sigma people why there is not third party RF glass yet.
Past is (often) prologue.Ef mount was introduced on 1987 and first sigma lens for that mount was introduced on 2000. I think I would asked them about relevance of such timeframe for the rf mount.
Yes, but which people? The ones who have been buying Rebel APSCs and M50s? The formerly large market that depends on high sales volumes of lower margin products, in a climate where that market is shrinking? The younger generations which comprise many of the new buyers are moving to smartphones, causing the camera market to shrink further. Canon has mentioned placing its focus on its higher tiers of gear. The big spender pro-am sector, which probably constitutes the bulk of the demographic on forums buys full-frame mirrorless, the sector of the market which Sony dominates and has dominated in the past.A world in which nearly twice as many people continue to buy Canon instead of Sony.
At least, that’s what’s happening in the real world. Many people on this forum can’t seem to grasp reality, and prefer to live in their own personal fantasy world where it’s much easier to be right.
I'm not sure what monopoly law is anywhere else, but Canon is FAR from a monopoly in the camera market by US standards. For your photographic of video needs, you can buy Sony, Nikon, Fuji, Red...the list goes on.That's how AT&T worked in the US, if you'll recall. Until 1987 or whenever you couldn't hook up a phone or answering machine from any other company. You had to buy EVERYTHING from AT&T.
AT&T got broken up by the US govt and good thing too.
AT&T had more monopoly power than Canon does, I'll grant, but there's clearly a point above which companies can be deemed to have monopoly power and arguably Canon is above it.
And you'll note my proposed change to the status quo wouldn't actually be costing Canon a single lens sale, as it only applies to lenses they do not make and which no-one could buy from them.
I'm glad to hear you enjoy your work, that something not many people have, it's usually quite the opposite. Great too that it pays well, considering your impressive collection of photography gear!Lol. As I said, ridiculous statements engender ridicule, and I’d add that asinine statements make people who make them look like asses.
FWIW, my last bad day at work was probably over a decade ago. I am truly fortunate that I really enjoy what I do for a living, and even more so that I am well compensated for it.
To spite the US for nuking them in WWII?Tangent to the topic:
Did Nikon licenced Z mount to Putin?
They haven't in the past, why start now? Furthermore, possible patents are probably outdated now. And if the EF third party glass was reverse engineered the don't even have a case.And what if Canon brings cases against third parties on EF too?
Please oh please tell me, how Sony should do that? They would have to implement an entire new algorithm/ protocol, bring out new firmware for every camera and every lens model ever released and probably put lots of research to put their AF back on the number one spot. Furthermore, they have make to they are not breaking initials agreements/ contracts. Although the "price" was symbolic for other companies to join.What if Sony and Nikon follow in Canon's footsteps?
So, you propose Canon should license lenses they don't build? Are you forgetting that Canon is in the process of fleshing out their lineup and that'll another few years? So, according to your proposal, the following would be possible:You're saying you're against my proposed because you're assuming these options are carved in stone but I don't see an obvious reason why they would be.
I hope the hostesses were at least hot . I also saw the Sigma 200-500 at Photokina, but the line was too long and I was already exhausted. I hope Photokina will come back. Photopia was quite tiny, but at least I had the chance to test the R3 and the Sony A1 there. The guy at the Canon stand was surprised that O was able to get a sharp handheld indoor shot at 1/30 sec with the RF 800 f/11.Honestly, what answer do you expect? There is no statement from Sigma itself and their CEO´s probably told everybody to shut the ****** until they've figured things out on their own or successfully negotiate with Canon. So, you won't get an answer that you can count on.
Furthermore, I visited the photokina in 2019 and the Sigma hostesses (or workers) did not know squad about their lenses. They had the Sigma 200-500mm F2.8 EX DG on display and when asked by someone (not me) why it's so expensive the first hostess said: "well, it's very big, bigger than most lenses" The second one, which the asking visitor called over, said: "I think it works in the dark, but I´m not sure".
So, I am looking forward to what response you'll get. Unfortunately, I can't go myself (would love though).