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Canon haven't released a studio/resolution orientated camera since the 1ds3.

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rhysgray said:
Do they care? Do they even have a plan to produce some sort of completion to the d800?

I certainly hope not, I bought a D800, and it outperforms the lenses, and takes forever to process images.

How do you define studio resolution? When there was only a 3mp body?, 6mp, 8mp, 12mp, 16mp, 22mp, ??? 100mp?

It takes 6mp to 8mp to make a quality print.
 
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couldn't have said it better than mt spokane. but i'll still type something. the term studio would relate to some super high MP camera, well that MP number is always changing, yet studios have been around for a good long while before the d800 landed. maybe we should just feel happy for the nikon shooters as canon has OWNED them for a good long while. they are used to us having 2x the mp as them. perhaps they went to far for some. past the sweet spot of computer power/storage/photodiode size/speed. Have you ever seen the junk nikon had before the D3? besides, 35mm cameras aren't for super high res anyway, said "studio" might rather have a MF camera with a leaf shutter system.
 
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rhysgray said:
Do they care? Do they even have a plan to produce some sort of completion to the d800?

Well they hadn't released any FF action cam since the pre-DSLR days, all it was was studio cam after studio cam, so you ain't be waiting as long as the folks who wanted some speed and AF! You had your landscapes with the 1Ds2 then 5D then the 1Ds3 then the 5D2. Finally the 5D3 brings some EOS 3 to the table (although yeah bumping up the sensor DR wouldn't have hurt since you'd have your low ISO landscape upgrade right there too then and as I do also do lots of landscapes yeah that woulda made it more fun than a barrel of wombats).
 
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Remember folks, the most important feature of any camera made ever is the MEGAPICKLES. If it isn't extremely large then by all means, the camera is just absolutely worthless. You cannot, under any circumstances, have a studio quality camera unless you have higher MEGAPICKLES than that your competitor.
 
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Megapickles are nuffink without a good lens, I met a photographer with a bloody hassle of a camera (I think he said) and he reckoned the best lens was by Dr Zuess.

The idiot is saying it has to be full frame, and 22MP is old hat. Of course all the leaf and phase one shooters are just pissing themselves. But he won't be able to see that.
 
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Mt Spokane Photography said:
How do you define studio resolution? When there was only a 3mp body?, 6mp, 8mp, 12mp, 16mp, 22mp, ??? 100mp?

It takes 6mp to 8mp to make a quality print.

Thing is, the same basic question can be asked of Canon's entire line.. why make a 5D3? Why even make a 5D2? After all pretty much all of the rebels handle HD video, why would people want more? It doesn't take 4K to make youtube videos.

I think in the end, people want to feel like the company is addressing their particular segment. While any of the modern cameras can do the job, Canons current lineup of video cameras and multimedia cameras really are just not geared towards studio photographers. Of course they can be shoehorned into it, but it will always feel like an awkward 'second class market segment' fit.
 
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Neeneko said:
Mt Spokane Photography said:
How do you define studio resolution? When there was only a 3mp body?, 6mp, 8mp, 12mp, 16mp, 22mp, ??? 100mp?

It takes 6mp to 8mp to make a quality print.

Thing is, the same basic question can be asked of Canon's entire line.. why make a 5D3? Why even make a 5D2? After all pretty much all of the rebels handle HD video, why would people want more? It doesn't take 4K to make youtube videos.

I think in the end, people want to feel like the company is addressing their particular segment. While any of the modern cameras can do the job, Canons current lineup of video cameras and multimedia cameras really are just not geared towards studio photographers. Of course they can be shoehorned into it, but it will always feel like an awkward 'second class market segment' fit.

Why have new technology when the 1DS3 can still deliver top IQ studio pictures?
 
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rhysgray said:
Also, anybody know where i can find out about the low end medium format market approx 2 to 5 thousand?

eBay.
It is not unusual to see good medium format backs in that range, though they generally do not out megapickle (damn it, now that is stuck in my head) modern DSLRs. They are still excellent backs though and give you access to a wonderful array of lenses and potentially even view camera type bodies.
 
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briansquibb said:
Why have new technology when the 1DS3 can still deliver top IQ studio pictures?

There I am the wrong person to ask. Personally I am waiting for the used price on 1Ds3s to come down so I can snap one up, but I tend to be way behind the tech curve (still using a 300D/350D pair)
 
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Holy guacamole! Utter non-sense batman! :o

The D800 doesn't "outperform" Nikon's "trinity" zooms. Using the Nikon, Zeiss, Schneider primes...all the better! Shoot with a Zeiss 100 f2 or Nikon 200 f2 to see what the D800 is capable of. It's stunning, as in competes with $30k MFD "stunning". Canon will respond eventually.

5d2 was breakthrough for 35mm studio work vs MF. Nikon D3x too, but not a great value / performance ratio like 5d2.

6-8MP for a "quality print"? Ok, then your standards aren't very high. If your point is, the performance of the D800 is overkill for most photographers, I agree. Same with MFD.

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rhysgray said:
Do they care? Do they even have a plan to produce some sort of completion to the d800?

I certainly hope not, I bought a D800, and it outperforms the lenses, and takes forever to process images.

How do you define studio resolution? When there was only a 3mp body?, 6mp, 8mp, 12mp, 16mp, 22mp, ??? 100mp?

It takes 6mp to 8mp to make a quality print.
 
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Neeneko said:
briansquibb said:
Why have new technology when the 1DS3 can still deliver top IQ studio pictures?

There I am the wrong person to ask. Personally I am waiting for the used price on 1Ds3s to come down so I can snap one up, but I tend to be way behind the tech curve (still using a 300D/350D pair)

I would say you are very, very wise in your buying decisions.
 
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rhysgray said:
How does a leaf shutter system work and what benefits does it have? Also, anybody know where i can find out about the low end medium format market approx 2 to 5 thousand?

Many resources. Google is your friend. Luminous Landscape forums, etc.

Leaf shutters = sync speed o'rama. Combine that with very short flash duration strobes =magic. Also= $$$$$$.
http://www.dofmaster.com/courses/basic/photographycourse-89.html

MF in general: Bigger sensor has many benefits. DR, shallow depth of field, etc. It has a "look" and a mercilessly addictive one.

$2k-5K sensors...honestly "I" would say, get a D800 / E. It will kill those dated MF sensors. To beat a D800, you would need at LEAST a Phase IQ140. The body is $25k. Yes, just the body. Again, shoot a D800 with fast, top of the line lenses for a VERY similar image.

What about getting into MF film? Like a Fuji GX680 mark 1 for peanuts. Shoots a huge 6x9 negative. You can find a mark 3 for less than a grand in mint condition. You would have tilt / shift on ALL of your lenses. Phenomenal lenses for a lot less than Canon L's.

Then again, unless you shoot for $$ in the realm of fashion, product, landscape, commercial photography...I would buy a refurbished 5d2 from Canon for $1760 and call it a day. Thats a LOT of camera for $1750!

I hope my ramblings were helpful....
 
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