Canon officially announces the Canon EOS R5 Mark II

Hi - I seem to remember seeing something about being able to use the batteries from my R7 in the R5-II ... but that
certain functions of the R5 would not be available. Is that correct? Can you point me to a reference that details
which functions would not be available?
- Thanks ... Jim
 
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Hi - I seem to remember seeing something about being able to use the batteries from my R7 in the R5-II ... but that
certain functions of the R5 would not be available. Is that correct? Can you point me to a reference that details
which functions would not be available?
- Thanks ... Jim

From TDP: "The R5 II arives with a new battery grip, the Canon BG-R20. The Canon BG-R10 Battery Grip, the same grip used by the R5 and R6 II, is also compatible with the R5 II. However, the BG-R10 does not support 8K DCI, 8K UHD, RAW video, SRAW, and frame rates with Fine setting are not available. It does not support the fastest frame rates and is also not compatible with the new LP-E6P batteries.
 
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From TDP: "The R5 II arives with a new battery grip, the Canon BG-R20. The Canon BG-R10 Battery Grip, the same grip used by the R5 and R6 II, is also compatible with the R5 II. However, the BG-R10 does not support 8K DCI, 8K UHD, RAW video, SRAW, and frame rates with Fine setting are not available. It does not support the fastest frame rates and is also not compatible with the new LP-E6P batteries.
So it only affects video items? If so I will not need to buy the new grip and can just use my old one as I do not shoot video with my cameras.
 
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So it only affects video items? If so I will not need to buy the new grip and can just use my old one as I do not shoot video with my cameras.
By using the 'old' grip you will not be able to use the new LP-E6P batteries in that grip. TDP further mentions: "While the LP-E6NH (2130 mAh) and LP-E6N (1865 mAh) will power the R5 II, the fastest drive speeds and most advanced video features will not be available. The original LP-E6 is not supported."
I am not sure if this affects speeds in still shooting. It will affect battery life rating number of shots = lower when using the old batteries.
 
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So I'm not able to figure out what "TDP" is ... and I'm interested in using my 'old' (R7) battery without using
the battery grip. I think the batteries are the same physical size so I'm hoping that my old battery can act as
a backup battery (swap) for the R5-II. ??? I do not shoot video - only stills and rarely even use burst mode
or save images in both jpg and raw ... so I'm still hoping that I'll have access to everything I need for my
primary (almost only) use of the camera which is for birding. Mostly stills and sometimes birds in flight.
If using the old battery would hinder/reduce the AF during BIF that would be important to me. - Jim
 
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So it only affects video items? If so I will not need to buy the new grip and can just use my old one as I do not shoot video with my cameras.
According the user manual (page 22 of the pdf or this link to the online manual) it will affect shooting speeds for still shooting. You cannot see battery charge in % (I guess it’ll only shown the bars) and you cannot register the 6NH batteries.
 
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So I'm not able to figure out what "TDP" is ... and I'm interested in using my 'old' (R7) battery without using
the battery grip. I think the batteries are the same physical size so I'm hoping that my old battery can act as
a backup battery (swap) for the R5-II. ??? I do not shoot video - only stills and rarely even use burst mode
or save images in both jpg and raw ... so I'm still hoping that I'll have access to everything I need for my
primary (almost only) use of the camera which is for birding. Mostly stills and sometimes birds in flight.
If using the old battery would hinder/reduce the AF during BIF that would be important to me. - Jim
TDP is The Digital Picture. The R5 Mk II (p)review is: https://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EOS-R5-Mark-II.aspx
 
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By using the 'old' grip you will not be able to use the new LP-E6P batteries in that grip. TDP further mentions: "While the LP-E6NH (2130 mAh) and LP-E6N (1865 mAh) will power the R5 II, the fastest drive speeds and most advanced video features will not be available. The original LP-E6 is not supported."
I am not sure if this affects speeds in still shooting. It will affect battery life rating number of shots = lower when using the old batteries.
Thank you, registering batteries makes me think they may lock out 3rd party batteries, which makes me sad as I've used 3rd party batteries for years to save costs.
 
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Thank you, registering batteries makes me think they may lock out 3rd party batteries, which makes me sad as I've used 3rd party batteries for years to save costs.
I would not jump to that conclusion: registering batteries has been on Canon camera’s for years. It has not prevented use of third party batteries. When you register your batteries, you can see the charge and last date of use in the camera without having to insert the batteries in the camera, see the manual (link).

As with the older type (LP-E6N and LP-E6NH) batteries, your third party batteries may restrict operations like shooting high fps and video since third current third party batteries may not deliver sufficient power for these functions. See the link to the manual in my previous post for restrictions.
 
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Question on this article:
It says "The EOS R5 II does not have the cross-type autofocus offered by the EOS R1".
So, a lot of wrong information is in the wild? I read on some sites, the same AF system will be in the R5 II...
Is the AF as good as the one of the Eos R3?
 
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Question on this article:
It says "The EOS R5 II does not have the cross-type autofocus offered by the EOS R1".
So, a lot of wrong information is in the wild? I read on some sites, the same AF system will be in the R5 II...
Is the AF as good as the one of the Eos R3?
Roughly speaking: The same AF software is on both, the sensor in the R1 adds more functionality to that.
 
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Thanks for this info. Some writers just publish and share information to get likes and readership without checking the truth of the content.
Canon is to blame too: they published incorrect specifications for the R5 Mk II, it looks like they copied the information from the R1 and left incorrect spec’s like having cross type AF sensors, GPS and a RJ45 network connector.
 
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Thanks for this info. Some writers just publish and share information to get likes and readership without checking the truth of the content.
Canon is also deliberately vague on the divide between hardware and software. The R7 made the difference quite clear, it has the AF software from the R3, but the slow sensor from the M6II. The net effect is an AF experience that is less than the R5.

This is where ‘long’ term reviews come in, you really need 2 weeks or more to get a good overview of the performance. This isn’t a complaint against the early reviewers, Canon only gives them half a day with the camera.
 
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Canon is also deliberately vague on the divide between hardware and software. The R7 made the difference quite clear, it has the AF software from the R3, but the slow sensor from the M6II. The net effect is an AF experience that is less than the R5.

This is where ‘long’ term reviews come in, you really need 2 weeks or more to get a good overview of the performance. This isn’t a complaint against the early reviewers, Canon only gives them half a day with the camera.
... and that means that it will probably be early September before we will start to see any reviews
made by people that have enough time with these cameras to report "actuals". On the other
hand - there are some knowledgeable reviewers out there who seem to be able to dig thru
the specs without having an actual camera and provide good insights.
My own problem is that I have pre-ordered an R5-II ... but it is highly unlikely that any reviews
meeting my expected 'early September' will be available at the time I will have to make the
go-nogo decision. :-(
I am a birding photographer - first and foremost. I have found only one person who reviewed
the R5-II who actually used it on that day -and- is a birder. His results in his review (youtube)
were promising. For me the most important feature/improvement of the R5-II is the AF
which is both hardware and software.
What I'm really hoping for is some method of adapting the AF specifically to birding. Birds
are often in situations that challenge the AF on my R7 (in/under bushes with other stuff in
front of or behind them) plus birds are small and often don't let you get close enough to
them before they flush. At least one idea I have would be to use the "important person"
training where the camera will prioritize a subject ... but use it for a bird instead of for a
person. None of the reviews I've found have attempted this. Yes, I already know about
and use the "Wildlife" setting for the AF - what I'm asking for is the equivalent of what
Canon has done for the R1 for sports.
 
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I would not jump to that conclusion: registering batteries has been on Canon camera’s for years. It has not prevented use of third party batteries. When you register your batteries, you can see the charge and last date of use in the camera without having to insert the batteries in the camera, see the manual (link).

As with the older type (LP-E6N and LP-E6NH) batteries, your third party batteries may restrict operations like shooting high fps and video since third current third party batteries may not deliver sufficient power for these functions. See the link to the manual in my previous post for restrictions.
That's good, as I have scads of third party batteries. Some work almost as well in the R5 as the "H" one.... But I may break down and pay top $ to get a second "P" one with my R5 II!!
 
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... and that means that it will probably be early September before we will start to see any reviews
made by people that have enough time with these cameras to report "actuals". On the other
hand - there are some knowledgeable reviewers out there who seem to be able to dig thru
the specs without having an actual camera and provide good insights.
My own problem is that I have pre-ordered an R5-II ... but it is highly unlikely that any reviews
meeting my expected 'early September' will be available at the time I will have to make the
go-nogo decision. :-(
I am a birding photographer - first and foremost. I have found only one person who reviewed
the R5-II who actually used it on that day -and- is a birder. His results in his review (youtube)
were promising. For me the most important feature/improvement of the R5-II is the AF
which is both hardware and software.
What I'm really hoping for is some method of adapting the AF specifically to birding. Birds
are often in situations that challenge the AF on my R7 (in/under bushes with other stuff in
front of or behind them) plus birds are small and often don't let you get close enough to
them before they flush. At least one idea I have would be to use the "important person"
training where the camera will prioritize a subject ... but use it for a bird instead of for a
person. None of the reviews I've found have attempted this. Yes, I already know about
and use the "Wildlife" setting for the AF - what I'm asking for is the equivalent of what
Canon has done for the R1 for sports.
FWIW, the AF in my R8 already runs circles around the R7 when it comes to birds, I’m convinced the R5II will be even better.

The R8 finds the eyes faster, further away and keeps them in focus during bursts. The R7 delivers a lot more pixels per heron, but the keeper rate is a lot lower, for me.
 
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